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Author Topic: Will gravity ever run out?  (Read 13572 times)

Offline brian334

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Will gravity ever run out?
« on: September 14, 2008, 10:35:26 PM »
Energy from the sun evaporates water on earth and makes it go up, energy from the earth makes the water come back down. Some day the suns energy will run out, will the earths energy / gravity ever run out? When the sun puts out energy it is using up something. There is a chemical or nuke reaction going on. What is the chemical or nuke reaction making gravity? What is getting used up to make gravity? As far as I know nothing. Does gravity violate the law of conservation of energy? Is gravity something for nothing?

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 12:24:03 PM »
Gravity is a balanced system. Can't get anything out of it except what is put in.

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 12:40:00 PM »
from my point of view gravity is the result of Super Light coming from all around us and pushing things together, it is as if that gravity is coming from the up and not from the earth

there is some link on that on the net, i have found a real patent gravity-wheel from Imris Pavel, i am sure that one is working cause the inventor have also create a radiant device, look to the gravity power forum in this forum, unfortunatly the inventor was to afraid to showing up here, and i understand him very well





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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 12:48:04 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

JRowe, if gravity is a balanced system and you can get anything out except that which is put in, what is put in?  You seem to know exactly what gravity is yet your answer is vague.  What goes into gravity.  What generates gravity?  Do you know?  I think not...

Drannom knows...

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 12:57:00 PM »
Lmao.

Mass generates gravity. It's the logical effect of mass on the spacetime continuum, the exact effects of which can be demonstrated by the mathematical representations of the extremes: A black hole charted in spacetime, and virtual particle charted in spacetime. Everything else falls somewhere in between.

What it does is what it is.

As to why, well... Einstein can explain that a lot better than I can :)

If you want to argue more, take it up with Albert.

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 01:11:41 PM »
Howdy JRowe,

You are wrong, Newton is wrong, and Einstein is wrong.  Gravity is generated on Earth because of energy which is transmitted from the sun.  The Sun transmits energy in the terahertz band which generates gravity on all the planetary bodies in this system.  If the sun were to instantly burn out gravity in this entire star system would cease, and we would all float out into space, hopefully you first...

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 01:17:57 PM »
Einstein never explained gravity, or anything else.

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 07:24:25 PM »
In the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) model, Einstein is right and z.monkey is sorta right. In WSM, space is filled with waves coming from every particle in the universe. The more particles there are, the denser the waves and hence, the denser the space. Particles move in the direction of the higher density space. That gives you gravity.

If you ignore explanations for gravity, such as WSM, then I can see the puzzlement. What causes two particles to move towards each other according to their masses? As more and more particles get together, you have stronger gravity and so pull in more particles. Eventually you might have a sun-sized mass of particles. In looking at that sequence of events, you'd swear some work was done.

Unless of course you say that particles, which are masses, curve space, which results in more particles gathering together ultimately resulting in a sun-sized mass. So no work was done; it was all just space curving. So now we have this blazing hot sun, pouring out immense energy, and no work was done to make it all start. Yes, I know excess energy from fusion is a result of less energy being required to hold together one large nucleus than the same nuclear material in two separate nuclei. But no work was needed to get it all started?!?

There. More questions than answers. My work here is done :-).
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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 12:21:35 PM »
Hello all

this is what i mean, it is the fifth time a put it in a post , sorry,

the Super Light :

 
 http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/11/milewski_describes_magnetoelec.html


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SuperLight is described as the opposite and complementary phase to ordinary light. While electromagnetic radiation - visible light is part of its spectrum - has a strong electric and a weaker magnetic component, in magneto-electric radiation the magnetic component outweighs its electric counterpart.
Milewski proposes a model which sees magneto-electric radiation as the source of gravity, emitted by black holes and traveling at the square of the speed of light. SuperLight has a correspondingly shorter wavelength and higher energy content than ordinary light and is the source of the energy of life, which makes for its connection to the area of healing through increased coherence in organisms.
While physics has tended to exclude life and consciousness from its equations we now have - with Milewski's model - a very real possibility to reach unification with meta-physics, generally considered the purview of faith and religion.

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Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto?electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape.
The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight ? a Dynamic Ether.



so , there are black holes all around us in the infinite universe, so the Super Light come from all around and the earth absord or catch some of those Super Light, then the gravity is the pushing from the up to the ground,

and do not forget that in the same moment we receive a lot of Super Light from the left and the right (equal) from behind us and in front of us(equal) from the above and the over (not equal !!!) so there is gravity on earth

the main source of gravity is then not the earth, and not the solar sun

the main source of gravity is the pushing of the Super Light from everywhere like if we nave been lighted by an external sphere of light pointing toward us (all black holes)

it is look like love, we have been pushed together , hahahahaha, heu not attract

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2008, 12:34:11 PM »
it is look like love, we have been pushed together , hahahahaha, heu not attract

Howdy Drannom,

You mean like a shotgun marriage?  Hahhahahahahaa...

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2008, 12:49:58 PM »
Hello and hahaha


yes, the main shotgun is like the Central Sun 

the Central Sun is not at the center of the universe so the Central Sun can provide all black holes with the same amount of love (energy), black holes are surper vortexes, and vortex can allow to transfert energy via an hyper dimensional way

as well as God himself, the Central Sun is not in our universe, and God is much more than all the universe

if God=Universe then God means nothing except the word : universe

Central Sun is less than God, God give life to universe with all the love of the shinning Central Sun

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2008, 03:08:47 PM »
the earth(and other large masses) are not taking up as much space as they should(because of core cooling or heating and isolating pressures)...they are decompressing...therefore other matter wants to share that space or fill it...this suction relates to any particles as energy and lets them know that things are out of balance...this implies that gravity will only cease if the masses are allowed to mix and thereby cancel the gravity...it is hard to picture pressure without displacing something...so lets say that the gravity is trying to displace the matter because the density says there is enough room and the only thing for the attracted matter to do is stick to the surface which doesn't satisfy the attraction...as far as the gravity that exists between two like particles there must be a condition inside of each particle that tells the other particle that there is some room there or the particle is innately compessed...


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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 08:26:15 PM »
In the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) model, Einstein is right and z.monkey is sorta right. In WSM, space is filled with waves coming from every particle in the universe. The more particles there are, the denser the waves and hence, the denser the space. Particles move in the direction of the higher density space. That gives you gravity.

Cool didn't know anyone else came up with this kind of idea, i had it while thinking about gravity and remembering how sound acts on stuff like salt when its put through a metal plate, seems to make a lot more sense than space bending or gravitons!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GBf8y0lY0

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2008, 12:23:46 AM »
In the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) model, Einstein is right and z.monkey is sorta right. In WSM, space is filled with waves coming from every particle in the universe. The more particles there are, the denser the waves and hence, the denser the space. Particles move in the direction of the higher density space. That gives you gravity.

If you ignore explanations for gravity, such as WSM, then I can see the puzzlement. What causes two particles to move towards each other according to their masses? As more and more particles get together, you have stronger gravity and so pull in more particles. Eventually you might have a sun-sized mass of particles. In looking at that sequence of events, you'd swear some work was done.

Unless of course you say that particles, which are masses, curve space, which results in more particles gathering together ultimately resulting in a sun-sized mass. So no work was done; it was all just space curving. So now we have this blazing hot sun, pouring out immense energy, and no work was done to make it all start. Yes, I know excess energy from fusion is a result of less energy being required to hold together one large nucleus than the same nuclear material in two separate nuclei. But no work was needed to get it all started?!?

There. More questions than answers. My work here is done :-).
-Steve
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Finally someone who believes along the same line as I do :).

I do not believe gravity is a real force. I believe gravity is a process that creates a force. I believe the process of gravity is a large body releasing electromagnetic radiation outwards as an electromagnetic wave which curves spacetime due to the different energy densities which then causes objects to "gravitate" towards each other. Mass will simply go where the energy is the highest or where time is least. The reason why electrons flow along a conductor is because the electrons are resisting change from a changing magnetic field. Also, the reason why objects gravitate towards each other  is because the objects are resisting change from the different densities in curved spacetime.

z.monkey is right about the sun to some degree. The earth is absorbing energy from the sun and some of the energy that is absorbed is also radiated back into space in the form of heat, light, ultraviolet rays, etc, thus creating more gravity. Also since the earth is absorbing energy from the sun, the energy is adding to the mass of the earth, thus more gravity.

Our ideas on gravity may be slightly different but I think the ideas are similiar.

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Re: Will gravity ever run out?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2008, 12:51:53 AM »
Cool didn't know anyone else came up with this kind of idea, i had it while thinking about gravity and remembering how sound acts on stuff like salt when its put through a metal plate, seems to make a lot more sense than space bending or gravitons!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GBf8y0lY0

I think that the observations of lensing indicate that a quantum theory of gravity, based on gravitons interacting with every particle including individual photons, cannot be correct. for graviton interaction to be correct, a photon would have to follow a polygonal path as it passes a massive body, each segment of the polygon being, perhaps, of planck length.


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