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nievesoliveras

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #345 on: October 20, 2008, 04:07:15 AM »
Hi!

@nitinnium
Thanks!
Did you know that there is already a postulate for the prize given by the forum?
This is the link:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5864.0

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #346 on: October 20, 2008, 04:23:37 AM »
Hi!

@nitinnium
Thanks!
Did you know that there is already a postulate for the prize given by the forum?
This is the link:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5864.0

Jesus

Jesus !!

it's only a simulation, why are you saying that!!??


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the best method, is simplicity.
to make something as simple as possible, without losing any of its meaning.

it must be simple to be spread more easily to the world

Nitinnun, you are going at the speed of light, congretulation, you got your fe-cu compound, and yes , has ia said , crystallization may be avoid and replace with a solidification, cement, glue, melted glass, etc ...

Nitinun, if you succeed, then you'll get a more easy way than electrinium itself ! hahahaha

good night

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #347 on: October 20, 2008, 04:30:41 AM »
Hi!

@drannom

I said that because under the thread title is wrtten "in overunity prize"
There is another here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5839.0

Jesus
I could be wrong though!

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #348 on: October 20, 2008, 04:43:00 AM »
Hi!

@drannom

I said that because under the thread title is wrtten "in overunity prize"
There is another here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5839.0

Jesus
I could be wrong though!


jesus !! what are you doing ??

the first link is only a simulation

someone said:
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If this device works for you and you are feeling generous you can donate money to me through Stephen Hartman.

someone said:
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A waste of time for sure

i agree

someone said:
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If you perform simulations - I would suggest that you use more sophisticated models
for the relay coils containing C´s and R´s.
In a relay, part of the input energy is used in the switching process - the simulation
program doesn´t account for that.

i agree


Jesus, and now you give us another topic, what are you doing ???


why are you constantly moving us away from electrinium ?

so, i will look at your second link, and i do not know why......................








Edit: i saw the second link, and it was very very dull, all the secret is keep, it seem just to be a lost of tiime, there are many lost of time in this forum

and you Jesus, have make me loose my time....again

ther are some members paid just to make us loose our time, so Jesus !! please take care

and btw, there is many ways to make a topic dull, talking to say nothing, or talking out of topic, etc



Nitinnun !! keep going, you are a very productive member, you make experiment !!

it's much more than only theorize

hope to reproduce your work soon, if you get some result

good night again

« Last Edit: October 20, 2008, 05:03:56 AM by Drannom »

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #349 on: October 20, 2008, 04:49:33 AM »
Hi!

@all
Forgive me..
I just was trying to share the joy of finding an overunity device, that is supposed to be of concern to everybody.
I was making experiments a few hours ago, with the electrinium in my mind.
Again, forgive my enthusiasm with the idea of having free energy so close in the near future.
From now on I will only post things related to electrinium.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #350 on: October 20, 2008, 05:17:05 AM »
Hi!

@all
Forgive me..
I just was trying to share the joy of finding an overunity device, that is supposed to be of concern to everybody.
I was making experiments a few hours ago, with the electrinium in my mind.
Again, forgive my enthusiasm with the idea of having free energy so close in the near future.
From now on I will only post things related to electrinium.

Jesus


you can post things not related to electrinium, if you want, you take the risk that i ignore you

and i do not believe you anymore, look at all your posts from the beginning, you promised to stop , and, here you have done it again

i am happy that Nitinnun post here twice, cause there is a relation with the electrinium

good night, again, and i hope to not see another lost of time

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #351 on: October 20, 2008, 06:32:48 AM »
here is my updated diagram.


if you add many copper/iron atoms, and mix the middle substance VERY well,
than SHEER PROBABILITY will place the copper/iron atoms, where they are useful.



then you charge up both terminals with electricity.

this polarizes the atoms.
so that all of their positive poles are facing towards the negative terminal,
and all of their negative poles are facing towards the positive terminal.

this way, when the copper/iron atoms "harden" into ZPE molecules, the ZPE molecules will send the right charge to the right terminal

this also causes the molecules in the middle substance, to harden into a pattern that increases electrical resistance.



is it or is it not brilliant?

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #352 on: October 20, 2008, 12:15:56 PM »
Hi Nitinnun

so, all you need is to test some way to keep your fe and your cu in place !

the 2 atoms in the solution are free to move, so that is not a compound in the electrinium mean, it is free atoms in the solution, in electrinium the 2 atoms are fixed together in a shorter volume than normal

it is brillant, and Jesus is brillant too, he show me his intelligence in the potassium alum pyramid.....

the only difference with electrinium is that your fe and cu will not be compressed, only aligned, it may work ! with less power than electrinium, and your solution fe-cu is so easy to do, than the less power will be compensate by the big size of the cell, and the easy way may be just like this

so, it will perform as well, if it is working, many experiment to do

anyone can try any combination, any , this model will not need to be harmonically tune, brillant, indeed

i wonder to know, Nitinnun, if you have read the electrinium.pdf ?

with your system you take advantage of the difference in the molecular frequency of cu and fe to produce energy, those two metals are in equilibrium, in the electrinium we want to break the equilibrium in the etheric field with a compressed compound

you do not need to compress, so it will be easier




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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #353 on: October 20, 2008, 12:40:37 PM »
nievesoliveras,
   Try a resonator with diode to your antenna device to see if
this will create a recoil or flyback effect, to charge the capacitors
very quickly, pull energy from the vaccum on demand.  Tesla
demonstrated this effect with his "Tesla Switch", and so this
may work with condensors as well. 

CREATE A VACCUM!

SM 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #354 on: October 20, 2008, 02:00:28 PM »


i'm hoping that the copper/iron atoms will be light enough, that they will stay stuck in their place, in the glue.
sort of like feathers floating on and in water, without sinking to the bottom.



i expect the copper/iron atoms to be locked into place, when the glue hardens.

until then, they just need to float in place, in the glue.
while i expose the glue with heat, to dry it quickly.



......does glue compress when it dries?????
ESPECIALLY when the glue dries from heat?????
could THAT be putting pressure on the metals, as long as the dried glue is whole?????


because the water molecules are exiting the drying glue,
and the carbon/hydrogen atoms are COMPRESSING into polymer strands?

so copper/iron atoms in the glue, would be compressed by the glue?????



one of my key concepts here, is that the atoms are connected by covalent bonds.

     H
      I
Cu-C-Fe
      I
     H

that the magnetic energy is EXCHANGED THROUGH the covalent bonds.
that there is an unbroken chain of covalent bonds, connecting the 2 terminals together.

or would the cell work best, if there was compression AND covalent bonds?

or would the compression disrupt/destroy, the covalent bonds?



i skimmed over the electrinium PDF.
but i am very right brain dominant. so asking me to read a MASSIVE amount of words, is as slow, painful, difficult, and boring, as asking me to look for a needle in a haystack.

while moving one straw of hay at a time.
with pliers.....


a left brain dominant person seems to move the hay one large bucket at a time.
and they instantly know when the needle enters in their bucket.
because they can hear the needle clink on the metal bucket.

where i can only SEE the needle with my eyes, when i am holding it in my pliers.
after i have purposely picked the needle up.



when most of the atoms covalent bonds are filled with electrons, you have CRYSTALIZATION.

wouldn't it be better to have a stable crystal, that is at peace?

instead of having a compressed mass, that is waiting to burst like a water balloon?

nievesoliveras

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #355 on: October 20, 2008, 04:08:20 PM »
Hi!

@drannom
Seems that I am in too many forums at the same time and I get confused and post things from one into the other.

@sirmikey
I already answered to you on youtube and sent you a booster circuit by email.

@all
I need to straighten up my posts to avoid misunderstandings and to learn what is needed to help others and myself.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #356 on: October 20, 2008, 07:15:46 PM »
 @resonc

     I would have to study the PDF to answer your question.  I do know that crystals will create resonant mechanical vibrations due to electrical wave energy input.  These vibrations then alter their resistance to a bias voltage at the resonant mechanical frequency.  The original crystal radio sets exploited this.
   Perhaps electrinium as described in the PDF does convert infrared to a very low frequency output that appears as a dc pulse.  It could be that the PDF is describing neutrino kinetic energy conversion to electrical.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #357 on: October 20, 2008, 10:19:38 PM »
@resonc

     I would have to study the PDF to answer your question.  I do know that crystals will create resonant mechanical vibrations due to electrical wave energy input.  These vibrations then alter their resistance to a bias voltage at the resonant mechanical frequency.  The original crystal radio sets exploited this.
   Perhaps electrinium as described in the PDF does convert infrared to a very low frequency output that appears as a dc pulse.  It could be that the PDF is describing neutrino kinetic energy conversion to electrical.

I am  leaning  toward  believing that  the  superlight  theory is  correct .   
I  can't explain  my  understanding  yet .   I tried  a couple of times  and  ended  up  making  very little sense .....  My understanding  is normaly based on  SEEING  the  connections .
My mind is mostly  visual . 
Unfortunately  it looks like the more I learn about  the electrinium  PDF the more  I see it as a shorthand  version  of  the information .   So much is mentioned but not explained. 

One thing I am  getting from it is that  everything  is in perfect  balance .......every  planet  atom  and electron

gary

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« Reply #358 on: October 20, 2008, 11:22:14 PM »
Howdy Y'all

How did we get to a copper iron battery?

Element   Symbol   Atomic Number
Lithium         Li               3
Iron              Fe              26
Copper         Cu              29
Silver           Ag              47
Gold            Au              79
Plutonium    Pu              94

Didn't Mr. Summera say that the difference in mass of the elements making an Electrinium molecule determines its potential difference?  If you go with a copper iron battery the difference is only 3 protons.  A silver iron battery's difference would be 21 protons.  It would be better to go with a larger potential difference, mo voltage.  A gold iron battery would have a difference of 53 protons.  A gold lithium battery would have a difference of 76 protons.  A plutonium lithium battery would have a difference of 91 protons.

It would take experimentation to see if we can get any of these elements to create a stable molecule.  I think we need to go for a bigger difference in the atomic weight.  I think this is what is determining the potential voltaic difference of the battery function.  Also I have made a molecular arrangement which I think is what Mr. Summera was envisioning.  Remember that he had stated that the silver iron molecules will not bond to the silicon by them selves.  Borozon has to be added to the mixture to convince the silver iron molecules to bond to the silicon atoms.  This arrangement is not scaled, I would like to draw it with a 3D CAD program to help people visualize this molecular arrangement.  Si=Silicon, Bz=Borozon, Fe=Iron, and Ag=Silver...

        +++            +++             +++                     Positive
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
         ---                ---                 ---                    Negative

The borozon atoms are a buffer between the metals and the silicon.  Remember that silicon is a semiconductor and it needs to be isolated from the conductive stacks of metal atoms, otherwise the battery will be internally shorted out.  This is the reasoning for using borozon.  Boron is a nonmetalic element which when combined with nitrogen produces a super hard insulator crystal.  The borozon will bond with the metals and the silicon.  The metals will not bond with the silicon.  This creates an insulated corridor for the Electrinium stacks to reside, and the silicon crystal structure is only structure.  I would love to do this with atomic scale construction techniques.  Build the thing molecule by molecule.  Unfortunately we have to work on a larger scale...

OK, Mo Later...

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #359 on: October 20, 2008, 11:30:40 PM »
  Superlight could well be pure dispersion force or that force which expands all.
Contrasted to that is concentration force or that force which seeks to unite all.  These two primordial forces creating reality.  Both just as powerful both just as necessary for the survival of the other.  For without the light there would be no dark and without the dark there would be no light.  Here we are stuck in the middle knowing very little bit about the nature of either.