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Offline resonanceman

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2008, 08:40:51 PM »
  It seems to me that in order to form metal crystals it would require a high temperature annealing process. 

I agree .   

I tried to cover this in my plan by maintaining the  junction in a molten form for a few minutes then cooling  it very slowly .   I was thinking  of  a couple hours. ( using 1/4 inch electrodes )
My theory  is  that the  current  it takes to melt the metal  will be enough to  align the  molecules to  the  best  configuation  for  current  flow .   
Then  the current  would be reduced very slowly .
I am counting on the metal getting  solid faster than  the current looses  the ability  to  hold  the molecules in line.
I am not  assuming  that  this would make a " standard " crystal .   
I am not sure that an optimum crystal lattice  would  create maximum  current

I am  assuming that  the  current through  the cell at what you have called  activation  is the key .   
With my plan  activation is  directly connected to  initial  forming of the  junction. 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2008, 08:52:21 PM »
Howdy WizardofMars,

Well, if it is not our resident debunker out to spoil another good theory.  I guess you didn't even read the document.  You apparently do not see the value of building a battery on a molecular level in a rigid container which allows the catalysts to remain aligned without using electrolytes to hasten a reaction.  This document makes perfect sense to me.  I have no doubt that there is a workable product in here.

WizardofMars, go spread your poison elsewhere, I am reporting you to the moderator...

Blessed Be...

HHhhhhhmmmm

Z Monkkey

I can  understand   it when  people talk to themselves
I can even  understand it  when  a person occasionally  argues with himself.

I can't  understand why anyone  would  want to talk to someone  that is here only to dump shit on other peoples ideas.

 :D

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #77 on: September 24, 2008, 09:09:05 PM »
Can some of you guys who kind of understand this process explain in your own words the chemistry behind this? I know some would be glad to do this, it'll make spreading the message easier if more people understand it exactly. Try to explain as if you would to to you 10 year old kid.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #78 on: September 24, 2008, 09:39:43 PM »
Hi!

There is a process done before you use stainless steel plates in an electrolyzer.  The person piles all the plates one over the other and then pass a quick shock of current through the plates.  This aligns the molecules inside the plates and the plates perform better.
The same thing I think do applies to the junction of the two metals.  When you join them by a chock of electricity the molecules become aligned with the direction of current automatically. I could be wrong though.

Jesus


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« Reply #79 on: September 24, 2008, 09:42:09 PM »
Can some of you guys who kind of understand this process explain in your own words the chemistry behind this? I know some would be glad to do this, it'll make spreading the message easier if more people understand it exactly. Try to explain as if you would to to you 10 year old kid.

Broli

I would  be happy to if I could .

I do alot of things  kind of  backwards  from most people.
I try  to live what I would call spirit  first.   

I really don't understand.
To be honest I  have only read the  first half of the  PDF on the first post .

To state  what I am doing here in a way  that an average 10 year old could understand .
It  looks to me like  my guardian angels  want me to be here.

I read a little here and  an image or concept pops into my mind.
I understand   these images and  concepts  to be from my higher self.
A new age person  would say I am channeling  this  technology .   

Now .......the  obvious  question is  ......now that I have explained  how I am  getting this information  do I think  anyone  should look at  this information  differently than before ? 
No. ..........  It  should  be taken only as ideas.   
Even though I  believe that it comes from  my higher self,  it  has to come  THROUGH me.   
So there is MUCH  room for error.


gary

     


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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2008, 10:01:15 PM »
Hi!

There is a process done before you use stainless steel plates in an electrolyzer.  The person piles all the plates one over the other and then pass a quick shock of current through the plates.  This aligns the molecules inside the plates and the plates perform better.
The same thing I think do applies to the junction of the two metals.  When you join them by a chock of electricity the molecules become aligned with the direction of current automatically. I could be wrong though.

Jesus

Jesus

I am  pretty sure that more heat is needed.
As  I understand it   the metal molecules   have to actually  move into  the right alignment.
Then as  the  metal  cools ( with current flowing through it )   the molecules  get trapped in the configuration  set up by the  current .

One big  quick  jolt  of electricity  like in a spot welder does melt the metal a little. ......but I  don't think that  it heats it enough to allow enough movement of the molecules .
A spot welder  would only  heat the metal  enough  to get it into a plastic  state .   it doesn't have to be fully molten to bond together well . 
I think  that  we  have to actually  get the metal fully melted 


gary



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« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2008, 10:04:41 PM »
Howdy Brodi,

Well, the two elements (iron and silver) represent a duality in nature, like man and woman.  They have opposite charges (sexes).  When they join together the duality is represented in one unit, one entity containing a positive and negative charge, or a male and a female polarity, a marriage of atomic elements.  One side of this marriage is aggressive (emitter) and the other side is receptive (collector).  This creates a polarized single unit which contains both positive and negative charges.

These molecular units form little microscopic batteries.  When we organize these little microscopic batteries into a tidy line they add their voltages up like stacking a bunch of regular batteries.  When we parallel a bunch of the tidy little lines of the little microscopic batteries they add their amperage up.  Together when connected in series parallel these little microscopic batteries can multiply their force so that when you make a big battery out of lots of the little microscopic batteries it is very powerful.  So powerful that a crystal only an inch long could be several thousand volts.

But, the most interesting part about this unique battery is that it has a rigid structure that makes it permanent.  This means that it doesn't wear out.  The electrolyte, or the catalyst, in a normal battery gets used up and makes the battery go dead  In an Electrinium battery there is no electrolyte inside the little microscopic batteries.  With nothing to wear down and be expended by the battery there is nothing to make it fail, ever...

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2008, 11:11:43 PM »
So the crystal serves as a frame work holding the charged elements in place? Is the following graphic the correct way to illustrate it then...

(http://ziosproject.com/NJ/eletriniumbat.PNG)

What I don't understand how the flow of electrical current is taking place then.

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« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2008, 11:21:23 PM »
Howdy Broli,

I like your illustration.  It's not quite complete.  You need to complete the circuit.  There should be a resistive pathway between the emiter and the collector of the Electrinium battery.  The electrons will flow out of the emitter (negative) side of the battery, through the resistive load and back into the collector (positive) side of the battery.  Then your loop is complete.  Current can flow and accomplish work...

Blessed Be...

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2008, 01:26:35 AM »
Hi!

Gary
I think you are right.

Jesus

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« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2008, 05:37:44 AM »
Z I never correctly understood the concept of electric current, it never and still doesn't make sense to me. But if you have such battery then I assume the crystal also acts as an insulator not allowing any electrons to escape to the neighbors or else they'd become neutral. So isn't this then just a permanent capacitor, that is if you connect a wire between both terminals you'd have an electric field in the wire but no current flow.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #86 on: September 25, 2008, 07:04:35 AM »


Any idea about   how to  be sure that the different  metals are in harmany?


gary

Second  sentence chaper 7 of the PDF

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The wavelength of each
atom is equal to the time it takes one electron to travel its circumference. The atoms of each element
h ave different wavelengths because the atoms of each element have a different size. These va r i o u s
wavelengths control and produce life as we know it, in a manner very much like producing music.
Each atom is tuned to a certain pitch and will respond when a certain vibration is played.


Now I  understand  what he means be the atoms  being in harmany .
Now I just  have to figure out how to  use the knowledge.


gary


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« Reply #87 on: September 25, 2008, 07:11:43 AM »
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Each atom is tuned to a certain pitch and will respond when a certain vibration is played.


Could this mean  the  electrinium  pairs  go into resonance?

gary

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« Reply #88 on: September 25, 2008, 07:18:49 AM »

Could this mean  the  electrinium  pairs  go into resonance?



From the  2nd  paragraph chaper 7

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The wavelength of each molecule will be a combination wavelength composed of
the wavelengths of each atom within the molecule. From the musical standpoint it would not
be a single tone but would be heard as a chord,


It looks like  that is what it  means

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #89 on: September 25, 2008, 07:34:13 AM »
Last paragraph chapter 7

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Then man was placed upon the Earth with a conscience of his own that put him in direct contact
with the Director, but he was also given a mind of his own and the right of choice. As long as he
accepted the Central Sun as leader and director the music was in perfect harmony.


Z Monkey

This  guy  didn't  get this information  from any textbook.
He has been talking to his central sun.

:)

gary


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