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Offline resonanceman

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2008, 08:10:24 PM »
here  is something that might  be of value with this thing.

WHen  I was reading about  Electrinium  there was something about  a pinching  effect  being   part of the way it worked.
That  idea brought  cold fusion to my mind as it was described as  the  heavy water getting pinched by the palladium.

This  device  looks like  a form of cold  fusion to me . 
If we can find  some common threads  between all  of them we may  be able to pass Go  and collect $200


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Re: Electrinium
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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2008, 08:32:29 PM »
It is my mistake then!

Jesus

Jesus

This  is a place where  people  share there ideas and opinions  on  different  mostly  energy  related subjects . 

It is my opinion that  the  device  that   you  posted about is  dangerous .......  I am not an expert ...I could be wrong .

Your  opinion  that  the information  might be helpful  might  prove to be right.

You had an opinion and you shared it .......that is good .


No mistakes  were made !!!!!!!!

thanks for  sharing .

:)

gary



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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2008, 04:37:24 AM »
Could cadmium  phosphorous and cobalt  be made to produce  a form of electrinium ?

gary

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2008, 08:04:52 PM »
Hi!

The electrinium pdf said that  the electrinium is a residue in the batteries. The batteries are made from different elements and maybe what forms the electrinium is not precisely the components used, but the electricity that pass through the individual components changing their compositions.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2008, 03:51:12 AM »
Hi!

The electrinium pdf said that  the electrinium is a residue in the batteries. The batteries are made from different elements and maybe what forms the electrinium is not precisely the components used, but the electricity that pass through the individual components changing their compositions.

Jesus

I believe  Z Monkey  said that the  Electinium in batterys   is  semi  liquid and  can't be used .

I wonder if that can be used  to our advantage  .

If I understand right electrinium  is  pairs  of molecules  of 2 metals 

If one of those  metals  was iron   wouldn't the iron  part of the pair  stick to a strong magnet?

It would seem to me that  a strong enough  magnet  should   hold   the electrinium in pretty good alignment    The question  seems to be  how  much space  should be allowed for  the elecrinium ?
Are the pairs  rigid enough to act like   little ball bearings ?  If so   they  could  simply be clamped
Or are they squishy?   if they are squishy   there would have to be some kind of  spacer to set the right  distance between the  plates .   


Any ideas  on if  this would work ?    or  what other metal to use  besides the iron?


How would  we  make the  electrinium pairs ?
I am guessing   make a battery with the right   metals and  put  a load on it  and  let it run .

   

gary



Edit 

I have a  coil  made  with iron and copper.   The  iron   corrodes  the copper  stays pretty much the same .   So I don.t think   this combination would make any electrinium.


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Re: Electrinium
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Offline broli

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2008, 05:16:26 AM »
Someone who grasps this idea should make some pictures for us dumbos  :D. What I understood so far is that you indeed have these pairs (don't know which has which polarity) in some crystal substance to hold them hard and "fixed" opposed to a regular battery where everything is soft and falls apart.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2008, 09:50:18 AM »
iron is meant to go with carbon, because there is harmonic between them, is you use a wrong pair you'll get an heater device or a self destruction device, an heater is not bad at all !

i suggest to begin with a little mini micro crystal, so you'll need less voltage for each layer

Hutchison have begun with a military diode !!

the voltage while crystallizing could be replace with an electrostatic field (or a magnet) but i do not believe it will work

it is the difference in the density of the two molecules in the pair that gives the potentiel in the battery, so iron can be positive or negative depending of the second molecule used !

it is like doing a compressed zone among the ether, then in this compressed zone there are a flow of super light reflected, the voltage will align the pair and transform super light in electricity,

this is what i believe is true for the iron carbon crystal

anything can be cristallized, even biological proteins can be, so it is for simple steel

i have already state that plate will be much easier to do than a long crystal

with my alum crystal, i had to begin with very little ones at first, i would have never succeed if i was beginnning with a big crystal, never !, we always have to progress step by step

to get only one layer you'll have to put and iron plate or a piece of iron with a piece of carbon (graphit), the contact surface between them will be the molecular layer, to cristallize one layer you do need to preheat before at red, then apply low current with high voltage,

two rods may work !

this is what i think

two rods, one surface in contact with the other, finally it is looking like a super diode !

just cristallized the contact surface of the two rods !
« Last Edit: September 23, 2008, 10:21:46 AM by Drannom »

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2008, 06:44:54 PM »
i

to get only one layer you'll have to put and iron plate or a piece of iron with a piece of carbon (graphit), the contact surface between them will be the molecular layer, to cristallize one layer you do need to preheat before at red, then apply low current with high voltage,

two rods may work !

this is what i think

two rods, one surface in contact with the other, finally it is looking like a super diode !

just cristallized the contact surface of the two rods !


Drannon

So   a way to make  Iron / carbon  Electrinium  would be to get  an iron rod and a carbon rod
make a jig to hold themend to end and apply some pressure.

Then   apply enough  current to  melt the iron a little at the junction.
Slowly lower  the  current  while  keeping  pressure  on the junction 

It seems clear to me that the pressure  would have to be  just right.
to much and it  will squish out.    to little and  there will be voids.

I think  a tight fitting non conductive tube  around the junction  might  make it much more likely to get it right .

gary

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2008, 07:51:30 PM »
Hi!

I was browsing the site index last night and I saw somewhere that there is a german guy that melt some mineral rocks and make a cristal that gives some volts. I lost the url, because my machine freezed.
If I find it again I will post it.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2008, 07:56:14 PM »
Hi!

Found it:  http://www.borderlands.de/energy.reid.php3
It is in german though.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2008, 11:25:54 PM »
Drannon

So   a way to make  Iron / carbon  Electrinium  would be to get  an iron rod and a carbon rod
make a jig to hold themend to end and apply some pressure.

Then   apply enough  current to  melt the iron a little at the junction.
Slowly lower  the  current  while  keeping  pressure  on the junction 

It seems clear to me that the pressure  would have to be  just right.
to much and it  will squish out.    to little and  there will be voids.

I think  a tight fitting non conductive tube  around the junction  might  make it much more likely to get it right .

gary


I made a few crude drawings of how I think this  might work.

This is the basic idea
The blue is a ceramic bead it as a hole through it that is a tight fit with the electrodes
It also has a widened  area in the middle of the hole.

The  carbon and iron electrodes  both  are fitted into copper  stubs.  This is both to lower resistance and  to help transfer  heat  out  when the  current is  melting the  junction.    The idea is to keep the melted  part well  within the   bead. 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2008, 11:31:49 PM »
This is  the start of the heating phase .

I am thinking that the  voltage should be ramped up  slowly  shooting for melting the  junction fully in  a few minutes. 


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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2008, 11:35:58 PM »
This is a drawing of  the  powerbead  with the junction fully melted.
I am thinking that it should  be held fully melted for 10 or 15 min then  the  current  should be lowered slowly so that it takes a couple hours to cool

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2008, 11:49:02 PM »
The  finished   powerbead 

The   widened  section  in the  ceramic bead may be a bit exageerated in these drawings.
If it is to wide  the  current may not  align the  molecules  so  it could  end up shorting out  the  junction
I do think it is helpful over all   it  helps   provide maximum  junction diameter.   and  helps to lock the whole thing  together ....     

I  think that the  technology  in the  water arc thread might be helpful ....only we would be using it reversed.   using  LV to  heat the junction then  blasting it with  HV pulses to  shake more molecules into alignment 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2008, 01:09:58 AM »
Hi resonanceman

you are almost perfectly in resonance with the idea of carbon-iron !  in fact you have done a great work ! you have put it further with your imagination, thank you

in this process we may have more than one layer of compound (few hundreds), if the cristallized part is thin enough then we will be able to align molecules with a few hundreds volts

i have just one thing to change

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Then   apply enough  current to  melt the iron a little at the junction.
Slowly lower  the  current  while  keeping  pressure  on the junction 


in my idea i would use a butane torch to heat up the two rods, because it will need a lot of current to melt the rods, with a torch and only a few current with high voltage would be enough

anyway i agree with your idea to melt them with the current

you are very good, that system will allow to make many experiences with many type of rods, and with only few hundreds of cristallized layer

all this theory is base on the statement from the electrinium that is an easy way to do an electrinium with steel, we have to imagine what means : very easy

then if two rods does not work we will have to try with a little piece of steel (iron-carbon), as a complete compound to cristallize while putting high voltage

then anyone will be able to replicate such an easy way if we got a working device


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Re: Electrinium
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