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Offline Drannom

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #135 on: September 28, 2008, 11:59:01 PM »
@ Drannom... Whatif you were to layer what you need all in one "grow"? In such a manner that your constituent components (like flowing in the K Alum) could be switched midstream with a new substance...

I used to work with MOCVD reactors that grew laminated laser diodes on an indium substrate. THey would heat up the indium disc and flow different materials around it (cladding/active region[N/P regions]/cladding). The biggest concern was lattice matching (which they checked via X-ray).

I imagine it would take some research into the crystalline lattice matrices of each constituent component to get a close match at each phase without voids or the possibility of de-lamination,but it would be an interesting idea to just "grow" this whole thing in one operation and avoid any fusing/welding/torching operations completely...

is that possible? have you ever changed or added ingredients while making one of those pyramids?

well, i do not know, i will let you know if i brainstorms something on that, i can make alum growing between 2 plates, the distance between the 2 plates could be as less as half of a milimeter, and the crystal will spread between them from a little hole at the center on one of those plates

for your question, yess, anything that i can dissolve i will be able to coagulate it again in a cristallization process, so i imagine that i can dissolve in sulfuric acid some metals ?? may be, and then crystallize them together, if i dissolve 2 metals in acid then there will be one of those metal cristallizing before the other one

so, it will be only one metal solve in acid, then i shall try to crystallize this metal, the other metal will be not solvable in acid and this is a problem, and much more complicated to put 10 000 volts on the crystal while growing

i will not go to that way until i got a flash to solve those problems

@ Jeanna


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The other thought/question I have for you Drammon, is would you be able to devise a way to make silicon crystals using sodium silicate?

It is very thick so it would be harder than the water you use for alum.

i do not know

it will work if we can solve it in an acid or whatever, and it will work if it is transparent, cause i need to see what happen while the crystal is growing

in electrinium we have to put a lot of volts while growing the crystal, so i will not look to that way until i got another flash to solve those problems

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #136 on: September 29, 2008, 12:34:35 AM »
Hi!

@all

Thank you for the counsel!

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #137 on: September 29, 2008, 01:01:50 AM »
Hi!

@all

Thank you for the counsel!

Jesus


hey jesus, finally there is many electrinium compound ! with silicon or germanian, from silver-iron and iron with many others one

i have finish chap 9 and i have understand everythings up to now, i am excited to try understanding to the end

and Jesus i am very happy that you take the time to read it too, cause it is explan in the way that even a child can understand it, and my skill in english is approximatly that of a child like 9 years old

the electrinium compound become the electrinium unit, and that unit is cut to form electrinium battery

i will look for simple way, just get the electrinium unit, if there is too much volts then it will be not a problem to convert them in heat or whateverelse like some coils and swithching system to create ac electrinium unit

i look to the chap 10 see you

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #138 on: September 29, 2008, 02:01:23 AM »

 

I also  doubt  of   high  voltage and high  current can  even be  done while the  crystal  forms .
If   you  have a metal  dissolved  in a fluid  and  apply  electricity,   you  are then electroplating.
The  current  needed for electroplating is MUCH less than we are talking about for aligning  the  molecules .




I  just had a thought .
maybe  a form of high voltage plating could be done by   adding just a very  small amount of  metal to the electrolyte.

 gary
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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #139 on: September 29, 2008, 02:25:46 AM »
Hi!

@Drannon
Keep positive and you will do it!

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #140 on: September 29, 2008, 03:03:51 AM »
Hello i have just finish chapter 10

i am sure that i will never try this method, i hope a team can do this in 6 months or more,

 find borozon crystals to add to the iron-silver compound and then melt it with silicon, and grow a crystal, in a furnace !! big job

then reheating this crystal just to realign the iron-silver compound catch inside the crystal with high voltage and a resistance to protect the voltage device in input ! hope to not break the crystal then !!

i have understand perfectly chapter 10 ! thanks god !, and i will never suggest to try this here in this forum, i prefer to focus on many others simple way that is suppose to be as stated earlier in the electrinium.pdf

so here, there is 2 ways

those one with a lot of courage to try the borozon iron-silver silicon coumpound crystal, and try it for a very very longgggg time


and those one looking another way with steel and anything else like gold platinium, and the goal is to create a sort of aligment according to the electrinium theory

so , i will have to imagine the way to do it in the very easy way with the electrinium compound of iron-carbon and platinium

find and old battery of iron-silver will be usefull only for those trying the chapter 10 method

i think we all, have to find what is this very easy way what this means

Summera had explained that a piece of steel can be convert into a magnet with 3 big hit, and two magnets at both ends, i think to hit red hot steel with large spark while cooling will do the cristallisation and the polarization of the coumpound, cause the compound is the body, this is why it is simple, the simplest!!

i think to melt steel with platinium and try many possible ways to turn all the molecules in the right direction with high voltage 

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The body of the Unit could bc made from a number of materials such as steel, Silicon,
Germanium, Carbon and others. Each of these materials would be suitable for an Electrinium Unit
designed for a particular purpose. Units made with steel bodies would be of an extreme voltage,
so high that they could not be cut and assembled into batteries, but they would be very easy to
m a ke. By using the steel as the nega t ive and Gold or Platinum as the positive, to make the
c o m p o u n d the compound becomes the body.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #141 on: September 29, 2008, 03:14:06 AM »
hi resonanceman

you said

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I am now thinking that adding  a  non  conductive powder might  be a good idea.    It would spread out the electrinium compound   and FORCE  the  current into  small streams

I just  got an image  about the  non  conductive  powder .
The  ratio  of   powder to  electriium  compound  would be important. 
There would be several times more powder than electrinium .   
The  channels  would  form  where  the current   would  find a low enough  path through the entire   junction.   
Electrinium  particles  that  were not in  a low resistance path  would in effect be  wasted ...they would  be held out of the circuit  by the  powder

I am thinking that  higher  current  would   create more channels .

I am thinking that  the voltage  applied  and the ratio of non conductive powder to electinium compound  would  at least roughly  set the  final output  voltage.. 
 Another  way to set the output voltage would be the  thickness of the junction


i think that is a simple way to try, it will be much easier than the chapter 10 method, keep going to channelled such good stuff, even from A. Summera himsefl !

there is a simple way, there is many simple way, even a simple way with the silver-iron compound

the simple way will be a very thin crystal, just to proove the concept

good night, my brain is ready to dream, about the electrinium
see you all, i will read the chapter 11

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2008, 03:19:47 AM »
Hi!

I will vote for compound of iron-carbon and platinium. The easier way.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2008, 03:38:12 AM »


Summera had explained that a piece of steel can be convert into a magnet with 3 big hit, and two magnets at both ends, i think to hit red hot steel with large spark while cooling will do the cristallisation and the polarization of the coumpound, cause the compound is the body, this is why it is simple, the simplest!!

i think to melt steel with platinium and try many possible ways to turn all the molecules in the right direction with high voltage 


Drannon     

I think  you migh have something here ..
I never thought of hitting it to help line up the molecules  like they  do in magnets ........but if it works for magnets   it could work for this .....after all we are trying to make something that works  like a magnet .

I  also think that  a magnetic  field  like they use  for making magnets might be of help too .   .

the  temperature   would have to be right ....  to hot  and  the alignment  wouldn't hold .



I see no reason that  we couldn't  heat,  electric  currents,  magnetic fields, and  a few  sharp  thumps all at the same time if  we need to.


As far as melting the  steal and platinum  ......  I am wondering  if it is safer to make a battery and  then use the sludge .     It would be in the exact right  proportions  and  you  would  know for sure that  it was in electrinium pairs.    each molecule would  be  properly matched.        If the  2 metals  are just melted together  I am not so sure that they  will mix well enough that each molecule  will  be properly bonded to its pair.
Any one  have any  experience with how they would mix?

It would be  great if we could count on them mixing  well enough ....... ..simpler is better ......as long as simpler  works.





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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2008, 03:50:29 AM »
Howdy Y'all,

I just submitted the Electrinium Battery to Project 10100.

Project 10100 Thread
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5649.0/topicseen.html
Google is sponsoring this and they are putting up $10M for the best idea to improve the planet.  I figure that Electrinium is good for that and maybe we can get some research bucks off of it...

Blessed Be...

It would be great  if we could  get a proof of  concept  battery  made before the  deadline.
I think  it has a good chance WITH a working  battery even if the battery is very low power.

I don't think there is much chance of them  giving the money to  someone  with an energy  related idea without  proof that it  works 
It wouldn't be a " safe " choice for them.


gary

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« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2008, 04:00:25 AM »
Howdy Y'all,

Great accomplishments are never easy...

"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to
the moon in this decade and do the other things,
not because they are easy, but because they are
hard, because that goal will serve to organize
and measure the best of our energies and skills,
because that challenge is one that we are willing
to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and
one which we intend to win, and the others, too."

                                -JFK (September 12, 1962)

People often criticize me because I always take the hard path.  Well, habitually taking the hard path makes the mundane things is life seem all the more easy.  If these tasks were easy someone else would have already figured them out.  Someone else would be building Electrinium Batteries right now.  By taking the initiative and doing the research, and the development, and making the investment we will be innovators that can change the world for the better.  That is how I want to be remembered...

Blessed Be...

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2008, 06:14:11 AM »
Hi folks

I have been following this very interesting thread and just wanted to throw this in. I checked out the John Hutchison website http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/John/index.html  where it states :

"I sold a 55 000 volt type made to Japan. It was very well made. The owner is now showing it to audience".
Another type of John's batteries is the Electric Crystal which has been baked from natural minerals. "I like this one - it is so easy to make and the materials are dirt cheap. I have made honeycombs with 1 cc of material in each cell to give more voltage and current. Good ones that I sold for 35 000 USD gave 3 volts and one amp. I have made prototype for a 55 000 volt battery but it blew up. I have it on video."

I have no reason not to believe the claims, so to my mind I think Summera (or whoever it really is) was genuine and there is definitely something here.

Cheers

SPP-48

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2008, 06:27:11 AM »


I have no reason not to believe the claims, so to my mind I think Summera (or whoever it really is) was genuine and there is definitely something here.





I think so too.

There  has been talk  of a blue  crystal   that is used  to  power  underground   bases .
I think it was Z Monkey  that said the  crystal  he  describes making  would be blue.

From the  first  part of the   PDF   it is clear that he understands  the  bigger picture and  that it  is wrong to  keep   a  this kind of  thing  away from the people.

If  he  helped  develop   this technology  then  had a hard time living with how it was used  .......an anonymous  PDF would be a great way to leak the information.

gary 

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« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2008, 11:57:39 AM »
the blue crystal use by military in underground basements come from Green's interview at projectcamelot, there is not any details interesting more thant that fact

Z_Monkey i agree that a team has to work on the chap 10 method too, and i do not think anyone up to now has figure out what is really the simplest method in the electrinium, it may be many ways, the good student will learn from the master and go on his own way to find it and merit all the free energy, it is simply done to not be understand by the rapid readers

resonanceman, the easy way with steel and platinium can be test with your two rods system, as i have stated before using a rod of steel and a rod of platinium, i was talking about the possibility to try different type of rods

then i will not have to melt the 2 metals, and it will be much simple

so, now i have to find 2 rods, and if nothing happen i will have to cristallize a liquid mixture of steel and platinium

and i am about to read chapter 11

see you


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« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2008, 12:31:16 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

Anyone here seen the Elemental Rods thread or video?  I would assume that these are doing a similar job as the Electrinium.  The video claims that the rods "provides power day and night by a completely unknown means."  The Elemental Rod thread says they source of energy is neutrinos.  Well, in the light of the Super Light theory, it is probably Super Light energizing the Elemental Rods, just as Super Light energizes the Electrinium.  In fact Super Light might have a hand in many Over Unity and Free Energy devices.  Electrinium is just one way to capture Super Light and put it to good use.  As Mr. Summera stated in the Electrinium.pdf document the nut that Tesla cracked with his plasma shield technology has far reaching implications, of which we have only begun to dream of.  Electrinium is a nice start but think of other applications.

John Hutchison's Crystal Power Cell is right there in the same arena as the Electrinium Battery.  Has anyone tried to contact John Hutchison directly.  I'm going to send him an email.  I would like to know his views on the theory of Super Light...

Blessed Be...

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