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Offline singerxyz

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Electrinium
« on: September 02, 2008, 11:41:20 AM »
This was so interesting, I thought it would be good to post- not exactly "Sun" energy, more like Central Sun Energy.
Tell me what you think...
 http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/electrinium.pdf

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 12:21:13 PM »
 ;D very good and clever from you to suuggest a topic on the electrinium

in electrinium.pdf there is an easy way to produce free energy from the Central Sun

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The body of the Unit could be made from a number of materials such as steel. Silicon, Germanium, Carbon and others. Each of these materials would be suitable for an Electrinium Unit designed for a particular purpose. Units made with steel bodies would be of an extreme voltage, so high that they could not be cut and assembled into batteries, but they would be very easy to make.



it's all about catching Super light from black hole, from my point of view, we have talked about this a little bit in the Lee Tseug topic and in the Hutchison Crystal Battery topic

this is a very good explanation, the Central Sun give power to all blacks holes, blacks holes give power to all sun in the galaxy

there is a link on that

 http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/11/milewski_describes_magnetoelec.html

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SuperLight is described as the opposite and complementary phase to ordinary light. While electromagnetic radiation - visible light is part of its spectrum - has a strong electric and a weaker magnetic component, in magneto-electric radiation the magnetic component outweighs its electric counterpart.
Milewski proposes a model which sees magneto-electric radiation as the source of gravity, emitted by black holes and traveling at the square of the speed of light. SuperLight has a correspondingly shorter wavelength and higher energy content than ordinary light and is the source of the energy of life, which makes for its connection to the area of healing through increased coherence in organisms.
While physics has tended to exclude life and consciousness from its equations we now have - with Milewski's model - a very real possibility to reach unification with meta-physics, generally considered the purview of faith and religion.

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Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto?electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape.
The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight ? a Dynamic Ether.

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and much more at the link

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 04:39:19 PM »
The body of the Unit could be made from a number of materials such as steel. Silicon, Germanium, Carbon and others.

Drannom,

I was very interested in this electrinium battery as I think it would definitely work.
Mr. Nelson of rexresearch wrote me that it came from aliens during meditation sessions of some
young people and they tried to replicate but failed.

The problem is they describe a way for fabrication from silicon which is not available to most
researchers. My chemistry contact thought that some important information was carefully hidden.

In your message I just saw the above quoted "could be from steel" and wonder if anybody can describe a
way to make this from steel or carbon or any other material but crystals. As crystals are hard to work with
and very brittle. One crack and your efforts are gone.
 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 12:27:13 PM »
Thank you devrimogun !

In electrinium there is a complex method to do it, there is also a simple method not described well (steel)

i suppose that steel can be overheat at red hot heat, an then cooling down slowly while putting a lot of volts in with a little ampere

each layer of iron-carbon will need a specific voltage to be compressed together, let's suppose there is 100,000 layers of cristallized steel in one milimeter, then the voltage needed will be very high, so it is preferable to crystallize a little piece of steel, let's say 1/10 milimeter for example, then you'll need many thousand volts for each 1/10 milimeter

In electrinium we have to understand the simple way by ourselves

the theory is simple, choose two molecule with different density, and cristallize them together with high voltage, then the two molecule will be nearer than in a natural way, this compressed compound will shine more super light and transform super light in electricity

many things is shinning more super light than chaostic things, every crystal shine more super light than chaostic things, most of them do not transform super light in electricity

secret military device include blue crystal producing a lot of energy (alien device give to military for underground basements, from projectcamelot)

the steel is the simple way to produce an electrinium from my point of view, so simple that we have only to try it

electrinium explan a new way to understand energy cicurlating in the universe, it sounds very accurate to me, the Central Sun theory with the Super Light let every inventor with a theory to fully understand every radiant device

radiant devices can catch Super Light or a consequence of the Super Light in the circulation of energy in the universe

my english is so bad that a can not explain it further

alll we have to do is understand the general principles, and then find out our own way to catch the Super Light

everythings must be simple, cause there is only a Central Sun giving power to all the eather, and alll the universe in only made of eather, then every atoms or molecules consume a lot of energy from the Central Sun, we have to break the equilibrium to catch Super Light

for example a large spark can catch some super light

i know, it is not a pleasure to read my english, sorry



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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 03:51:29 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

I have just read the Electrinium.pdf document.  I am familiar with the theory of growing semiconductor silicon crystals having been in the semiconductor industry for several years.  Now I haven't grown the crystals myself, but I understand the theory well.  In the Electrinium.pdf document Mr. Summera describes the theoretical process of "growing" Electrinium very well.  It makes perfect sense to me.  Ultimately you are making molecules of silver and iron.  These molecules are arranged in the finished material so that they are all polarized in the same direction.  This gives the effect of stacking batteries, but at a molecular level.  This results in high voltages at tiny currents.  Then the small, high voltage crystals are paralleled to increase the net current.  So say you produce one that is the size of a AA battery.  Rather than having a single crystal which traverses the length of the cell you have a lot of tiny cells which are paralleled in a matrix inside the cell.  This way we can replicate the voltage and amperage of a 1.5 Volt AA battery cell, but it is composed of something very different inside.  Something which is a permanent battery.

I imagine that the composition of the structure would be similar to an electrolytic capacitor.  Where you have an anode plate with its conductor to the east.  Next you place a thin wafer of the Electrinium.  Then you have the cathode plate with its conductor to the west.  Then there is a dielectric plate to insulate this cathode plate from the next anode plate.  Then the process starts over to add the next cell.  First an anode plate, then the wafer of Electrinium, then the cathode plate, then the dielectric plate, et cetera.  This would require several processes to produce the finished Electrinium batteries.  You would have to fabricate the iron silver molecules in one process and the silicon borozon mixture in another process.  Mix the two solutions together and grow the Electrinium crystals.  Then slice the crystals into appropriate wafers and fabricate the batteries.  Then to activate the batteries you would have to reheat the entire battery to 1200 to 1400 degrees Fahrenheit and apply a direct current to align the silver iron crystals.  When the battery reaches the right temperature, and the crystals align it will start producing current on its own.  Then you can allow the batteries to cool down with a resistive circuit attached to allow the silver iron molecules to retain their alignment.  When the battery is cool, and the silver iron molecules are physically set the battery is permanent and will produce current perpetually.

This is so cool!

Blessed Be...

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 07:29:16 AM »
Zmonkey

It seems that you know what youre talking about.
If you replicate those electrinium batteries, I will be one your first clients to buy some.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 05:32:32 PM »
I wonder  if  what  the  video  calls electrinium sludge   can be used in some way .

Maybe if it was mixed with something like epoxy and  put between 2  plates  then   a current  could be ran  through it   until it set up to keep the   pairs aligned .     


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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 05:58:12 PM »
Howdy Nievesoliveras,

I'll let you know as soon as I synthesize a working battery.  This one is going to take significant capital...

Resonanceman, the problem with the Electrinium sludge is that it is in a semi-fluid state.  Mr. Summera stated in the Electrinium.pdf document that it needs to be in a crystallized state to maintain its form.  When you draw heavy currents out of a battery it will heat up.  I work with printed circuit boards which are made with fiberglass and epoxy.  The trouble with epoxy is that when it gets hot it melts.  If you leave a circuit board in the process to long it will overheat and delaminate, which ruins the circuit board.  The same will happen with a Electrinium sludge epoxy sandwich battery, when you draw too much current it will overheat and destabilize, then you have a dead battery.

A regular silver iron battery will produce Electrinium but it is a byproduct of the chemical reaction which produces the current flow out of the battery, and it is considered waste.  Oh, if they only knew.  This particular battery needs to be built from the molecular level up.  That doesn't mean you have to build it molecule by molecule, but you need and intelligent process where the Electrinium molecules can self-organize.  A crystal growing process will allow that self-organization to happen.  That is what defines a crystal, it is nature's intelligence creating an self-organized structure.  This is why crystals are so fascinating to man.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 07:01:14 PM »
Howdy Nievesoliveras,

I'll let you know as soon as I synthesize a working battery.  This one is going to take significant capital...

Resonanceman, the problem with the Electrinium sludge is that it is in a semi-fluid state.  Mr. Summera stated in the Electrinium.pdf document that it needs to be in a crystallized state to maintain its form.  When you draw heavy currents out of a battery it will heat up.  I work with printed circuit boards which are made with fiberglass and epoxy.  The trouble with epoxy is that when it gets hot it melts.  If you leave a circuit board in the process to long it will overheat and delaminate, which ruins the circuit board.  The same will happen with a Electrician sludge epoxy sandwich battery, when you draw too much current it will overheat and destabilize, then you have a dead battery.


I don't  think that  the  sludge being   in a semi liquid state  is a  big problem .   It can be encapsulated.

I agree that heat  would be  a problem .   
I am not saying that  this  would be the best  way  to make an electrinium battery,  but  it might be a  good proof of concept .
It would also be  cheep 
It seems to me that a  cheep easy  to make  low power battery  might be more practical than  a higher  power  battery that most are not able to make .

I think that an energy solution  that  the  people can make themselves is a better solution than  a similar  solution that  has to be made for them .

As far as the heat .  Making it  flat and thin would  give it  alot of area to dissipate heat .
If that isn't enough,    then  add some current limiting .

gary

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I also like  the  idea of  maybe being able to  use dead batterys  to make  a longer lasting battery .


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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 07:20:09 PM »
Z monkey you are quite the expert on that field  :o. If capital is the only problem I'm sure some are more than willing to donate to get it done, because it sounds like you need some lab to do certain things. But the end result makes it worth it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 08:11:43 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

I wouldn't say that I'm an expert yet.  I haven't built anything yet , I just understand the concepts because I have worked in semiconductors.  Yes capital and financing is a problem at this point.  Do you remember in the news back in June, John McCain wanted to give a $300M grant to someone that could come up with a better automotive battery?  Here is a CNN Link.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/23/campaign.wrap/

Now, if he was sincere, and if that was a grant and not a loan, that would be great incentive to start the Electrinium Battery Company.  But as per Mr. Summera's directive this could not be another monopolistic energy company.  This technology would have to be shared.  Which would mean an open source policy.  Other companies would be encouraged to build the Electrinium Battery.  There would educational kits to teach students of every age the concept of the Electrinium Battery.  Plans would be provided via the Internet so that every DIY guy could make his own.  Then the company itself would make money by manufacturing batteries, and not selling licenses or rights to a patent.  This is a very altruistic business model, but it is necessary if we want to spread free energy far and wide.  All too often in the modern world companies make money selling information and profiting from interest.  These are not legitimate means of earning money and we see the companies that engage in these endeavors paying the price of their bad karma.  A new paradigm in the business world needs to be formed where money is made from good work performed, and information is provided freely (No more secrets).

Broli, as for the prototyping lab there is specific equipment required, but not really a significant amount of equipment required.  We would need smelting pots to melt the silicon borozon mixture and the iron silver mixture.  A high temperature mixer to mix the silicon borozon mixture and the iron silver mixture.  A crystal growing table like they use in semiconductor fabrication houses.  A diamond saw to cut the wafers of Electrinium.  Metal forming equipment for forming the electrodes.  And, last a high temperature kiln to initialize the batteries which has a conveyor running through it so that we could develop an automated process.  All in all we would have to construct an automated battery manufacturing factory, which would be expensive, but the potential business far outweighs the startup cost considering the technologies we are dealing with.

Put a bank of Electrinium batteries in your Tesla Roadster and you would never have to recharge the car, EVER!  Do the same with a Toyota Prius or a Chevy Volt and your will never have to stop at the gas station, EVER!  Cell phones, portable radios, power tools, laptop computers, UPS units, watches, test equipment, handheld GPS, lawn equipment, electric cars, wireless lights, aircraft, spacecraft, satellites, the list goes on and on, everything can use this technology. 

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 08:35:22 PM »
I agree that the implications are huge. We only need a few dozen batteries as proof of concept, the mass production comes later. This project also begs for corporation between many different people each specially skilled in one thing so the project can go smooth. All I can help with is talk and a little money ;D. So how soon can we kick start it?


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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 11:53:55 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere about serious attempts to reproduce what is described in the pdf file, but it couldn't be got to work - or is there actually some physical proof available somewhere that this is more then just a nice idea?

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2008, 12:22:14 AM »
Hi!

I stumble last nigh with a pdf that on page 83 starts an explanation on how to build a battery that lasts 70 years.  The important thing that I would like zmonkey to hnow is the formula he uses for the slodge
I mean for the contents inside the battery. It would be great if someone can find those ingredients and do some experiments with them to see if they can form the desired electrinium.

It is here:  http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKbook.pdf

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2008, 12:40:11 AM »
You need to be more specific than "somewhere" Sprocket, check this article out;

http://pesn.com/2007/12/06/9500462_ElectriniumBattery/

Seems to me that z monkey is our semi conductor guy, someone with an oven our baker and a crystal grower finally who I believe are a few here.

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