Author Topic: New Newman Motor Replication (Read 76069 times)

hartiberlin · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:16:19 PM »

Quote from: onlov on July 31, 2008, 02:00:19 PM

Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Careica · « **Reply #61 on:** August 01, 2008, 07:57:35 AM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 31, 2008, 11:16:19 PM

No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Stefan, about coil size. So I did not get understanding. Will I wound coil to get 250 Ohms or will I wind whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin in my motor and get near 2kOhms. Why some guys say "more tiny coil is better"? Which way I choice? Wind whole bobin (2kOhm) or just to get 250 Ohms?

bogchiblaster · « **Reply #62 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:45:08 AM »

Hi guys!

Small question here... do I need to have a very powerful magnet to run the newman motor?
I found some magnets from old speakers here. Do you think that will be enough? I do not have neo magnets

Also, theoretically speaking, can I power a 2Kilowatt home with this motor? How much equipment will I need?
(eg. copper wires, magnets, etc.)

thanks!

onlov · « **Reply #63 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:57:09 AM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 31, 2008, 11:16:19 PM

No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Stefan, you are little bit dishonest. You are saying in many many threads, if Newman machine or scope are grounded you cannot see back current spikes.
I find in couple minutes two:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg36522.html#msg36522

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Hmm,
what shunt did you use to take the input current scope shot ?
Is the scope grounded ?
Please remove the grounding.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg35138.html#msg35138

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P.S. The grounding is only related to the scope ground,
if you want to take scope measurements.
Otherwise don?t ground the Newman machine as this
will short out the RF bursts to ground, so the RF power
is lost..

I am quite sure Your "back current spikes" are only measuring error. I have asked your measuring circuit. You want not get it. It seems to be, Your overunity talking is only a big cheat. Your pages and advertisement on it is your business and it's necessary to talk nonsenses to forums readers...

Why You don't measure over plasma spark with scope and prove features of your "plasma battery"?
It's also necessary to measure your back current spikes when motor is loaded...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1628.msg15353.html#msg15353

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Yes, in some test it was producing around 135 % efiiciency. But the main output is in the RF burst and it is hard to capture and convert. I will try to use the new principle from the Steven Mark thread to see if it can be used by coupling it to a 90 degree coil wound around it...

So, your "overunity" features are totally useless!

onlov · « **Reply #64 on:** August 01, 2008, 10:22:32 AM »

Quote from: bogchiblaster on August 01, 2008, 08:45:08 AM

Hi guys!

Small question here... do I need to have a very powerful magnet to run the newman motor?
I found some magnets from old speakers here. Do you think that will be enough? I do not have neo magnets

Also, theoretically speaking, can I power a 2Kilowatt home with this motor? How much equipment will I need?
(eg. copper wires, magnets, etc.)

thanks!

Neo magnets are better, but it's important, at magnet poles turn as close as possible at inner surface of the coil. Strongest field is close of poles.

two 2D-simulation.
Red color means strongest field.
correct length
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00992/2400441.gif

Too short magnet
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00887/2400431.gif

Maybe best shape for magnet. it's build many magnets with different size.
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00968/2395081.gif

If you ask Mr Stefan Hartmann, you can get much more than 2kW electric power. But I think Newman machine is "underunity" device! You can get little bit less as you put in...

seekingknowledge · « **Reply #65 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:14:21 PM »

Quote from: khabe on July 30, 2008, 09:02:19 PM

Hmmm It comes more and more interesting,
Regardless - why at all this motor? Why not just carbon brushes, bit copper and spark? When we dont need to spin this stupid monster then we will have much more free energy
Otherwise asked - any proof that copper/carbon/spark makes energy?
If yes than this Motor is just the concealment of real PowerHouse ...and it is masterfully conspired ,
Now I can understand why Maestro kept at a distance to motor building , was concentrated to commutator ...
Regards,
khabe

Because khabe if we are not gunna have the motor we still need the coil so that we connect the battery to create the magnetic feild then we disconnect the battery and the magnetic feild collapses and it pushes the electrons in the opposite direction and jumps across the contact point and makes a spark,
so sparking happens on disconnection not connection of the battery, now according to stefan and i beleive that you charge the battery from the coil alone without the magnet (you would need something to drive the swith open and close) you could even maybe have an iron core to help make the feild a bit stronger along with a bigger feild collapse and more power output (backspikes) but not as much power output (overall backspike plus mechanical power) as having a magnet in the middle, because you then
have what power you get from the electromagnetic feild interacting with the feild from the permenant magnet which is free.

So the answer to that is you need a coil and yes you can do it with or without a magnet, but without the magnet you forfit the mechanical power and if you use a magnet you open and close your contact materials instead of having to use another electric motor or something.

Newman machines dont have iron in them by the way as it hinders the performance, but if you were just using a coil i suppose you may aswell have an iron core.

khabe · « **Reply #66 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM »

No way to talk round me,
Hundred differend brands of brushed motors - nobody has detected carbon/collector "fusion" effect - the only thing - just only losses + wear and tear,
Have seen arc-light copper melting furnace - huge carbon electrodes, copper, vacuum or without, nobel gases or without ... inductors, transformers ... what ever!
But only horrible noise - colossal amperage - huge costs - nowhere helpful fusion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc_furnace
This is BLUFF!
khabe

PS:
We can read that JN?s Books are available, as well as in pdf format ... costs money - $400 - of course - but free energy guys are really free-men - offered cracked version - all must to be FREE

Even intellectual properties of Maestro

And:
Fusion of carbon takes place in high mass stars where core temperatures exceed 600 million degrees K. Carbon may fuse with itself or with other preexisting nuclei in a series of reactions leading to the build-up of heavier and heavier elements

onlov · « **Reply #67 on:** August 01, 2008, 02:29:16 PM »

Quote from: khabe on August 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM

No way to talk round me,
Hundred differend brands of brushed motors - nobody has detected carbon/collector "fusion" effect - the only thing - just only losses + wear and tear,
Have seen arc-light copper melting furnace - huge carbon electrodes, copper, vacuum or without, nobel gases or without ... inductors, transformers ... what ever!
But only horrible noise - colossal amperage - huge costs - nowhere helpful fusion,
This is BLUFF!
khabe

Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy! But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil...

Careica · « **Reply #68 on:** August 01, 2008, 11:18:45 PM »

Quote from: onlov on August 01, 2008, 02:29:16 PM

Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy! But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil...

Did you just undersand what you said? Light bulbs are basicly inside of airtight glass container, or however you call it. Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.

+ There is no coil
+ There is no back spices

onlov · « **Reply #69 on:** August 02, 2008, 12:22:26 AM »

Careica:

Quote

Did you just undersand what you said? Light bulbs are basicly inside of airtight glass container, or however you call it. Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.

Don't embarrass yourself. You have any kind of knowledge of these lamps...

khabe · « **Reply #70 on:** August 02, 2008, 12:39:26 AM »

Quote from: Careica on August 01, 2008, 11:18:45 PM

Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.
+ There is no coil
+ There is no back spices

Apothegm of this year - - - Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight

Im choked up!
khabe
Please close window - the last (brain)electrons fly away

hartiberlin · « **Reply #71 on:** August 02, 2008, 02:35:03 AM »

All,
please ignore user:
onlov

He is twisting the facts and is not reading.
Thanks.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #72 on:** August 02, 2008, 02:45:18 AM »

Quote from: Careica on August 01, 2008, 07:57:35 AM

Stefan, about coil size. So I did not get understanding. Will I wound coil to get 250 Ohms or will I wind whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin in my motor and get near 2kOhms. Why some guys say "more tiny coil is better"? Which way I choice? Wind whole bobin (2kOhm) or just to get 250 Ohms?

If you use the whole bobin ( 2 KOhm) you need to
have a higher supply voltage, which is okay.
You need to get around 2 to 5 mA current draw, when the motor is running
at full speed.
The more copper the better.

Use the most copper wire you can afford ( many turns of coil is import !)
and then use the right supply voltage by putting NiMH 9 Volts batteries in series
or better or bigger motors 12 Volts lead acid cells in series.

So if you have 2 KOhm wire DC resistance you need for 50 mA
constant current without the commutator:
0.05 A x 2000 Ohm= 100 Volts supply voltage.

So if you use 2000 Ohm coil resistance you must use about 100 Volts
( so about 11 to 12 x 9 Volts NiMH cells in series)
and then with the commutator switches the input current will
go down to around 2 to 5 mA.

So if you want to have a safer suppy voltage, you need to get bigger wire
diameter to have the same number of wire turns for the coil and
then have a lower DC resistannce for the coil.

Would be good to have at least 10 Kg copper wire, so you have
enough turns of copper wire.

Hope this helps.

If you want to save money and use lesscopper, use my idea with the 5 LC tanks in series.

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #73 on:** August 02, 2008, 02:50:25 AM »

Still one example:

If you use a charge on the NiMH batteries for my upcoming scooter,
for instance I charge them up with
100 Watthours of energy and
normally the electroscooter will
only go 20 Miles with this energy charge on the batteries.

Then I will use the modified Newman motor
on the electroscooter and again I charge up the empty batteries
with 100 Watthours and then run the scooter with the modified
motor and I will get 150 Miles with the same driving habit and speed until the batteries are empty...

So that is, what I call usefull overunity....

Maybe the batteries will even last for more miles.
We will see.

pese · « **Reply #74 on:** August 02, 2008, 03:40:02 AM »

Quote from: onlov on August 01, 2008, 02:29:16 PM

Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy! But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil...

No it exist Carbon spark lamps.
they have very high and brilliant light intensity.
they are not glas bulb outside !!
the 2 carbon road are constructed that befor an "start" they toach anoter , and can "fire" with the "power switched on"
aft start 2 electromagnets on each axis of the carbon tate the carbon road autside, so that not more contacts with another BUT the spark ist lightning longer.
The magnet coil regulate also the now the flowing amperage (= Power in watts).
an regualte so (this way) also the ditances of the 2 carbon roads that lost the lenght afterr hours of permanent
lighnings.
I used mysel this lamps . in photografiic reproduction with large dimensions reproduction film in an
laboratory ( 45 years ago in Germany).

I know (by lecture) that this concept was used long before WW2 for street illumination.

I know myself that that lamps froduced an lot of RF, that distirbed any radio-station reveiving on an radio set
for geat distance.
also i seen some patents from about 1939, that use this carbon ark lamps for an "FE" producing device than make OU. so this is an way ! It is working , but dont ask me for verify it! (You must not belive, if you are familiary with electric you can work on it.)
Pese
Mail : http://beam.to/zpe

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