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Offline khabe

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2008, 02:20:15 PM »
Mh-mhh,
But why not to build at first The Motor like motor need to be built - well built, low losses, nicely made ...
After that you can add what ever - is it "Spark Device" or any else system for recharging batteries - is it "nuclear", "zero point", "vacuum" ...or comes from cosmos -  does not matter.
When motor runs without load, when what ever device charging batteries - then it runs very very long time,
As higher motor efficient - as longer it runs.
And Stefan,
I believe you have some replicated Newman Motor,
Please make video and show - what this motor is able to do - but it to work and show us,
No way? Or able for not much to work ...
Very sad, sorry,
khabe
« Last Edit: July 30, 2008, 03:09:02 PM by khabe »

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2008, 02:20:15 PM »

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2008, 04:11:20 PM »
Maybe better way to get additional (back_emf) energy from coil and put it back to battery:

http://www.munkuvat.org/kuvat/108328.jpeg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00380/2285504.gif

Where should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?

You just recycle stored energy in the coil with all
its ohmical losses.

The additional energy comes from converting the
galvanic energy at the commutator into the circuit
when the sparking occurs.

This was long the secret of Newman and I guess
he does not understand it himself,
otherwise he would not have talked about gyroscopic
particles, etc...

The Newman motor with electronic switching behaves
only as a lossy DC magnet motor !
It only gets special when we have the sparking
at the right commutator materials and only then
we get effects like these huge backspikes.

Only in the short sparking interval it behaves strange,
otherwise it just works as a normal lossy DC permanent magnet motor,
so all designs with just electronic commutation have failed so far.

It is the same with the Lutec device.

Only the arcing in the Lutec commutator gives it
its additional energy...

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2008, 04:15:08 PM »
Mh-mhh,
But why not to build at first The Motor like motor need to be built - well built, low losses, nicely made ...
After that you can add what ever - is it "Spark Device" or any else system for recharging batteries - is it "nuclear", "zero point", "vacuum" ...or comes from cosmos -  does not matter.
When motor runs without load, when what ever device charging batteries - then it runs very very long time,
As higher motor efficient - as longer it runs.
And Stefan,
I believe you have some replicated Newman Motor,
Please make video and show - what this motor is able to do - but it to work and show us,
No way? Or able for not much to work ...
Very sad, sorry,
khabe

After my vacation I will build it all up again and make new videos.
I also want then to modify an electroscooter to
get more mileage on the same charge this way.

Imagine charging up a small electroscooter, that you normally
get only 20 miles per charge and then you will get 150 miles
per the same energy charge !
Surely it will use up some graphite, but I have a cheap way
to produce my own graphite from coal brikets,
as I posted last year in the battery threads....


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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2008, 04:18:58 PM »
No Bullshit to it onlov, The BEMF is there. problem is people are too damn stupid to know how to collect it and use it. :)

Well put, Moab!

Looks a little more than EMF in those scope shots -  ;)

By the way, in Eric Dollard's book on Tesla Transformers, he advises that Tesla's favorite method of producing the "effect" was capacitor discharge, and that Steinmetz indicated in his book on Transients that the discharge of a large inductor will also work and that is what you have here.  You get a 1000 feet or so of #12 and a car battery - with the correct switch you got something to write home about -  ;)

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2008, 04:50:10 PM »
hartiberlin:
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Where should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?
Yes, but I don't believe at all, that burning graphite you can make extra energy.
I ask you the measuring circuit before. It's intresting, when you are measure with grounded scope, overunity features disappears.

It's necessary to measure over plasma spark cap too (Your "plasma battery") with scope and maybe is better to use balanced input with attenuator to get right result.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2008, 04:50:10 PM »
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Offline khabe

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2008, 05:01:00 PM »
Attn: Herr Stephan,
I don want to get  not any Topic reply to my mailbox,
I have tried all the time -> Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: -> Would you like to deactivate notification on this topic? -> I do YES ...
but it comes again and again,
I dont want!
Any help available?
Or you do it especially for me - to victimise  ???
Gruss,
khabe

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2008, 05:08:34 PM »
Attn: Herr Stephan,
I don want to get  not any Topic reply to my mailbox,
I have tried all the time -> Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: -> Would you like to deactivate notification on this topic? -> I do YES ...
but it comes again and again,
I dont want!
Any help available?
Or you do it especially for me - to victimise  ???
Gruss,
khabe

I have changed the notification for you,
but you can do it also by yourself at:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11673;sa=notification

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2008, 05:08:34 PM »
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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2008, 05:10:54 PM »
hartiberlin:Yes, but I don't believe at all, that burning graphite you can make extra energy.
I ask you the measuring circuit before. It's intresting, when you are measure with grounded scope, overunity features disappears.

It's necessary to measure over plasma spark cap too (Your "plasma battery") with scope and maybe is better to use balanced input with attenuator to get right result.

Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !

Offline khabe

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2008, 09:02:19 PM »
Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !


Hmmm ??? It comes more and more interesting,
Regardless - why at all this motor? Why not just carbon brushes, bit copper and spark? When we dont need to spin this stupid monster then we will have much more free energy  :o
Otherwise asked - any proof that copper/carbon/spark makes energy?
If yes than this Motor is just the concealment of real PowerHouse ...and it is masterfully conspired ,
Now I can understand why Maestro kept at a distance to motor building , was concentrated to commutator ...
Regards,
khabe

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2008, 09:36:16 PM »
Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !

J. Naudin get same results and scope pictures without any graphite in commutator. So possible additional  energy aren't from burning graphite.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0625.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0627.htm

If back current spikes and overunity results disappears when scope is grounded, someting wrong is with the measuring circuit. So it's still lot of study with the Newman motor...

And if the motor don't run, when it connect to closed loop (back current to condensator) it is not overunity device.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2008, 10:14:14 PM by onlov »

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2008, 07:40:20 AM »
hartiberlin:
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Where should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?

You just recycle stored energy in the coil with all
its ohmical losses.
I haven't newer claimed it's overunity device. Same case with transistor, mosfet, plasma spark and graphite, it's not working as overunity. Extra energy is not coming from space or from someting elsewhere.

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The Newman motor with electronic switching behaves
only as a lossy DC magnet motor !
It only gets special when we have the sparking
at the right commutator materials and only then
we get effects like these huge backspikes.
Newman motor is old fashion ineffective lossy motor, even you are burning graphite with it...

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2008, 08:29:26 AM »
hartiberlin:I haven't newer claimed it's overunity device. Same case with transistor, mosfet, plasma spark and graphite, it's not working as overunity. Extra energy is not coming from space or from someting elsewhere.
Newman motor is old fashion ineffective lossy motor, even you are burning graphite with it...

Now it have gone too long!

Onolov! If you are so smart, then build that Newman motor, and bust overunity and show us your measurements!

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2008, 09:51:44 AM »
Now it have gone too long!

Onolov! If you are so smart, then build that Newman motor, and bust overunity and show us your measurements!

I haven't newer saying I am smart. I am now 60 years old and my profession and life's work is in electronics. I am radioamateur too. So I know very match with electronics and electricity.

If I will to build Newman motor you will to tell me it's maked totally wrong! You remember Mythbusters and Bedini motor. You are saying at finnish forum, they are maked it (bedini motor) totally wrong because of it it's not working as overunity.

You know it's easy to believe nonsenses of OU and free energy, if you know not at all in electronics and electricity.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2008, 02:00:19 PM »
Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

One possible explanation:

Coil of the Newman motor acts like resonance circuit. It's big coil with self-capasitance. The Coil oscillates and makes big magnetic and electric field. These capacitive or inductive fields can radiate to the shunt (wirewound?) resistor which is necessary to current measuring.
This radiation can get incorrect results.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2008, 06:41:59 PM »
Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

One possible explanation:

Coil of the Newman motor acts like resonance circuit. It's big coil with self-capasitance. The Coil oscillates and makes big magnetic and electric field. These capacitive or inductive fields can radiate to the shunt (wirewound?) resistor which is necessary to current measuring.
This radiation can get incorrect results.

Heh! Mythbusters realy did build Bedini Motor APSOLUTELY wrong! There was no magnets! No Coils! There was only some DC motor which was spinning wheel. They tried to show MECHANICAL OVERUNITY, but Bedini show ELECTRICAL OVERUNITY. Mythbusters do get many bad comments on they forum about how worst they "bust" those myths.

But, why you just don't build that motor and see, if it will make overunity, if not, we can help you to build it beter. AND you will make diffrent measurements. That motor is not hard to build at all (Newman Motor). It will cost less than 20 euro, even less.

Please, try it out!

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