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Author Topic: New Newman Motor Replication  (Read 47669 times)

Offline AlanA

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 09:59:25 AM »
After seeing the video of Joe Newman I am deeply impressed.
On the other hand: Joe Newman says it is so easy?
My thinking: May be it is easy, I don't know.
But when it is so easy why can't I buy such an engine in the shop round the corner of me or every shop out there?
Why aren't there machines or cars out there they run with Newmans machine?
Why can't I get a simple instruction to make my own Newman machine (I am not an engineer but it is apparently simple)?

Ok, I can hear the voices: It is forbitten, the oil concerns wouldn't allow it.
But why they allow solar energy and wind energy?

Show me a usable instruction for Newman engines and I will forget all my doubts.

AlanA

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 09:59:25 AM »

Offline onlov

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 10:35:51 AM »
Careica:
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And this mean that I need to connect START of the coil windings whit END of the coil winings when brushes touch those "Shortout" terminals. Did I get it right? And when it is on that "Shorout" stage, then battery shouldn't give any energy to the system, so the system should be off when Shortout happend, right?
If you connect all copper pieces of commutator marked Short Out together, it makes short circuit of coil automatic through the brushes. It's so easy!

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Now guestion to Stefan, is it important to have some amount of "ON" terminals on multicontact commutator, and multiple "Shortout" terminals? Or can I just randomly put some amounts of "ON" terminals but only at 180 degree?

Multicontact commutator is better choice, You have costruction of the commutator in this pictures:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif
You can connect so many firing pieces to the battery slide (hub) you want! And you can connect so many short out pieces together you want! It's so easy again!
« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 11:16:24 AM by onlov »

Offline onlov

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2008, 10:50:46 AM »
After seeing the video of Joe Newman I am deeply impressed.
On the other hand: Joe Newman says it is so easy?
My thinking: May be it is easy, I don't know.
But when it is so easy why can't I buy such an engine in the shop round the corner of me or every shop out there?
Why aren't there machines or cars out there they run with Newmans machine?
Why can't I get a simple instruction to make my own Newman machine (I am not an engineer but it is apparently simple)?

Ok, I can hear the voices: It is forbitten, the oil concerns wouldn't allow it.
But why they allow solar energy and wind energy?

Show me a usable instruction for Newman engines and I will forget all my doubts.

AlanA
Simple answer to your question: On the World we haven't any one overunitymachine, that really works!

Offline AlanA

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 02:17:03 PM »
to ONLOV

I am confused.
You are working on a newman motor. But isn't this an overunity machine?
Ok. Joe Newman doesn't say he has an overunity machine but what can you call a machine that gets more out than you gave in?


Offline Careica

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 08:48:59 PM »
to ONLOV

I am confused.
You are working on a newman motor. But isn't this an overunity machine?
Ok. Joe Newman doesn't say he has an overunity machine but what can you call a machine that gets more out than you gave in?



Onolov has not build any Newman motors. Do you know why he say overunity is imposible? Because he belive in thermodynamical laws etc. But Newman motor don't harm any laws of physic.

Onolov, please, build one, then tell your results! It is not hard at all to build one!

And once more, if somebody have foundet some laws of physic then we all have to belive them blindly like zombies? Why? Maybe they are wrong.

And why there are not any overunity machines in world? Maybe because there are peoples like you don't belive those things at all! Maybe because no-one want to invest in those machines, because they scear about liers.

But I definetly think there are those machines in world.

Please, build one and make those good tests, because you seems to be smart about those things. Just for proov, make it.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 08:48:59 PM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 09:31:49 PM »
Simple answer to your question: On the World we haven't any one overunitymachine, that really works!
Onluv,
several:
Testatika,
Finsrud,
Morray,
Gray,
etc..
Onluv,
better educate yourself !

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 09:35:32 PM »
Careica:If you connect all copper pieces of commutator marked Short Out together, it makes short circuit of coil automatic through the brushes. It's so easy!

Multicontact commutator is better choice, You have costruction of the commutator in this pictures:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif
You can connect so many firing pieces to the battery slide (hub) you want! And you can connect so many short out pieces together you want! It's so easy again!


This is a very old commutator design and was only valid for the
very first 7500 pound machine with its very big magnets.

With smaller machines it is okay to pulse the supply voltage
via the commutator to the machine.
No shortout segment needed.

The sparking, when the current switches off from the coil
is enough to do the magic.

You need a graphite-copper switch( commutator)
to really see the big back current spikes.

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 09:35:32 PM »
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Offline onlov

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 03:49:57 AM »
Careica:
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Onolov has not build any Newman motors. Do you know why he say overunity is imposible? Because he belive in thermodynamical laws etc. But Newman motor don't harm any laws of physic.

Onlov, please, build one, then tell your results! It is not hard at all to build one!

Newman has only big mouth and he sell only "sneakoil", books and collect money from people. Why we cannot buy Newman "overunity motor". Because it has newer working as overunity!

Hartiberlin:
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Onlov,
several:
Testatika,
Finsrud,
Morray,
Gray,
etc..
Onlov,
better educate yourself !

Stefan, I have educated very match these "overunity" machine. All of these are scams or misunderstands of crackpots!
And how many overunity machine you have seen at making in industrial. Maybe Testatika Finsrud, Lutec...? Or outsider professional has research, its really work? It's thousands of crackpots, who says he have maked overunity machine, but i haven't see any working machine in the world!

Maybe you read this site first and you will landed safety on the Earth from the clouds!
http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm
Or I can buy overunitymachine from you or from other crackpot. I only researh the Machine before buying. I pay to you 10 000?, if it really works!


Offline Careica

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2008, 09:38:03 AM »
This is a very old commutator design and was only valid for the
very first 7500 pound machine with its very big magnets.

With smaller machines it is okay to pulse the supply voltage
via the commutator to the machine.
No shortout segment needed.

The sparking, when the current switches off from the coil
is enough to do the magic.

You need a graphite-copper switch( commutator)
to really see the big back current spikes.

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

Stefan, please, can you answer those 8 guestions? I realy need answer to start building my machine! Please!

Offline AlanA

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2008, 09:48:02 AM »
Even if it sounds frustrating: I think ONLOV is right.
Where are the engines which runs? Where can I buy it? Where can I get the construction manuel?
It is not helpful to make a large list of inventors who claim to have an overunity engine. Where can I buy it!!!
I think everyone of us would pay a large sum of money for it.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2008, 09:48:02 AM »
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Offline seekingknowledge

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2008, 11:14:22 AM »

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

So do you know any other secrets stefan that you could be holding on to, whats your opinion on what newman says about mechenical efficientcy increacing with motor size? and if you agree is this partially to do with a bigger newman motor has a bigger permenant magnet? i think it would cos the pwer from permenant magnet is free, i know bigger coil makes more efficiencty because bigger backspike.

Offline onlov

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2008, 08:54:42 PM »
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Stefan, please, can you answer those 8 guestions? I realy need answer to start building my machine! Please!

I cannot understand, why all the things are difficult to you. Stefan told to you, you need not at all "short out" segments.

You need only firing segments. You need to experiment, how many degrees of rotation is best choice for firing pulses. Maybe 30 - 45 degrees, but you can make firing pulse segments full 180 degrees of rotation, and you can connect so many segment together (to slider hub) you want.
Your motor is experimental project, right? You need to experiment more and ask little bit less!  ;)

Offline Careica

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2008, 09:34:40 PM »
Careica:
I cannot understand, why all the things are difficult to you. Stefan told to you, you need not at all "short out" segments.

You need only firing segments. You need to experiment, how many degrees of rotation is best choice for firing pulses. Maybe 30 - 45 degrees, but you can make firing pulse segments full 180 degrees of rotation, and you can connect so many segment together (to slider hub) you want.
Your motor is experimental project, right? You need to experiment more and ask little bit less!  ;)

Have you even read those guestions? I ask about how much of wire should I put in! I have 1 kg spool 0,2mm wire, it should make coil 1,9 KOHMS! And he said 200-250 Ohms, but at the same time, much of guys say that more tiny wire is better. So?

I understand about commutator, but I need realy answer to those 8 guestions to not make any fool things while build my machine.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2008, 07:24:06 AM »
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Hi All,
the last 2 days I have pondered a lot about the direct conversion
of  carbon to electricity in a new fuel cell.

As this would be an ultimate green cycle
to use charcoal or carbon from biomass waste to
convert directly to electricity without burning and
with high efficiency higher than 60 % !

There are a few new direct carbon conversion
fuel cells now developed, but all of them have the problem,
that they are using high temperatures for the KOH
electrolytes or Sn metal electrolyte.


What I experienced with my Newman machine studies is,
that there also is carbon used inside the brushes of the
commutator and I also got a positive confirmation
answer from the Newman engineers,
that the Newman back spike current effect only works well,
when they used a copper-graphite(conductive carbon)
pair as the commutator contact points.
With other metal combinations and without graphite the
strange big back current spike into the battery was not seen.


So it seems there is now another possibility to convert carbon
directly to electrical energy !

As the plasma that comes up, when we fire a BackEMF pulse
via a coil across a sparkgap from copper and graphite electrodes,
we have there a battery cell, that has 2 different metal electrodes
(Copper and Graphite) and have an electrolyte, which is the plasma
inside the spark of the sparkgap !

This way we can "burn" the graphite electrode in air (oxidize it)
and thus produce
additional current into the circuit !

This is probably also the main effect of the Newman motors
and all "overunity" systems that are sparkgap based on !

There you just oxidize the electrode materials inside the
hot plasma spark and use this as a basic battery cell to
get additional free electrons flowing into the circuit.

I will now try to scale this effect up and see, if I can
burn more graphite faster via bigger sparks and just get
more electricity into the coil-sparkgap-battery system this
way and recharge batteries this way.

This then would be a very efficient direct conversion
of carbon material into electrical energy and could
be stored in accumulator batteries without the
need of high temperature electrolyte like KOH or simular
agressive substances !

Regards, Stefan.

I have rotate brush assembly of my drilling machine so, at graphite brushes make lot of sparks.
Now I get lot of free energy an I will need not at all the electric power company!
Thank's Stefan!
 ;D
I have read You are studied at the technical university of Berlin. I think there your brains are washed with nonsense? I am very confused...

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2008, 09:11:03 PM »
Onlov,

The link that you showed are links about con-artists who sell free energy. In this OverUnity site, users are encouraged to experiment and try on their own along with like-minded individuals using their own resources. In fact, somewhere along this thread, you were even encouraged to build it yourself!

If the project succeeds or fails, everyone here will be able to discuss what made the project succeed or fail. Nobody is faking anyone to buy fake motors here. Right now, I'm also working on my own replication, using my own tools, wires and magnets -- stuff I found in a junk shop. Almost zero cost.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
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