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Author Topic: New Newman Motor Replication  (Read 47764 times)

Offline Careica

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New Newman Motor Replication
« on: July 22, 2008, 08:38:10 AM »
Hello all!

Now I'm waiting to get all parts together to start build better version of my motor. Today I should get my 1 kg 0,2mm cooper wire bobin. Then I need to get magnets and bearings and I can start builing.

Also, when I will build this machine, I will make: "How to make Newman Motor" many parts video and upload them on YouTube. I will tell clearly how to make one, that we could get more builders and more test results.

But I have few questions for Stefan and others who know about this motor:

1. Stefan, you said that I need 200-250 Ohms of wire to be wired for coil. I have counted that IF I will wire whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin, I will get near 2kOhms! That is too much is it? But at the same time, many guys say that we should put many kilograms of tiny wire, but it will go then past of 200-250 Ohms. So what should I do? Put whole 1 kg bobin in or just amount to get 225 Ohms?

2. Stefan, there is couple of guys here in Finland say that maybe you could explain HOW do this machine make overunity? Where it take his energy from? They are big sceptics, I try to tell them what is all about, but they want to hear You say where is overunity from.

3. Stefan, I have heard that I should use cooper and graphite for commutator to get good results, right?
               1. Where I can get good enought graphite brushes for commutator?
               2. Do I need oscilloscope to tune my commutator right?
               3. What I'm looking for getting overunity? I mean, what should scope show me? How hight should be voltage spices? How hight should be negative current spices? How much milliAmps should my motor take on input?

4. Stefan, how I need to connect battery? I mean, is it inportant that negative terminal from the battery goes to START of coil winds and from commutator brushes to positive of battery terminal? How they should be connected that battery would be charging?

5. Should motor turn slowly of fast to get overunity?

6. Is 12V 7Ah battery good enought to get it recharging by itself, by the motor? It is Lead-Acid Battery.

7. Should I make commutator whit just one ON and one OFF position, or should I make multiple ON's?

8. Stefan, I think you have saw in YouTube user named armakuni2000 (STARK). He are showing how was J.Newman's original commutator made. He tell that the commutator should make multiple ON's and multiple OFF's, but he mean by OFF, that it should shortout the coil. So if I will make that commutator, do "shortout the coil" that I need to make closed loop IN coil. I mean, should I connect START and END of the coild wires together. Do that mean shortout the coil?

That is much of questions, but try to answer them all, I'm trying to do succsessful motor, which make overunity, that I could report on that to everyone, and teach other people to make this thing work right too. So please try to answer them all.

Thank you much!

Careica

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New Newman Motor Replication
« on: July 22, 2008, 08:38:10 AM »

Offline onlov

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 06:11:44 PM »
Hi Careica!
Overunity is the business of the crackpots. It's grazy to think, we can get some free energy from sparks, lighnings and burning graphite (= carbon) of the Newman's Machine. You can read facts of overunity and perpetual motion for example from http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html and http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 11:45:58 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg114364.html#msg114364
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It should be best made of copper and graphite
as this gives the graphite oxidation free electron effect into the circuit.
;D
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg36469.html#msg36469
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So the Lutec technology is basically the same as the Newman technology based
of:
The direct electrical conversion of burning ( oxidation) a carbon brush into
electrical energy.
;D
Both Lutec and Newman motors are scams! He collects only money from stupid people!
It's funny to replicate machines, what haven't newer working as overunity!
;D

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 12:16:42 AM »
JLN did quite well with Aluminium contacts with copper brushes, Copper and Carbon sound swell but are not totally required, what is required is a short sharp segmented contact, Strips of Aluminium worked well for JLN.

I know Stefan won't agree but the way this motor work is the same way many/most FE works.
You create a sharp pulsed DC with the commutator which creates an aetheric effect that allows the coil to pull in the flux from the rotor magnet giving the backspike.

This is rather well indicated by the fact that it's polarity is the reverse of what the battery is putting in and it is the reverse of any collapse from the coil, the current it creates can be larger than created by the battery because it is induced in the coil and hence it's voltage is rather high. (just look at the energy in the spikes and calculate how much voltage it needs to fight the inductance)


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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2008, 01:15:25 AM »
Hi Careica!
Overunity is the business of the crackpots. It's grazy to think, we can get some free energy from sparks, lighnings and burning graphite (= carbon) of the Newman's Machine. You can read facts of overunity and perpetual motion for example from http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html and http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm

Onlov,
how many Newman machines have you built ?
Have you ever tested personally any Newman machine with scopes and meters ?

I agree that Dennis Lee is more a business man trying to sell
other inventions and many sound like snake oil,
but in the case of Newman, if you use the right batteries you can get way much longer run times,
than the batteries normally could deliver.
And if you do the tuning of the sparks right you can also recharge the batteries
and have free mechanical output for very long time.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2008, 01:15:25 AM »
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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 01:47:08 AM »
JLN did quite well with Aluminium contacts with copper brushes, Copper and Carbon sound swell but are not totally required, what is required is a short sharp segmented contact, Strips of Aluminium worked well for JLN.

I know Stefan won't agree but the way this motor work is the same way many/most FE works.
You create a sharp pulsed DC with the commutator which creates an aetheric effect that allows the coil to pull in the flux from the rotor magnet giving the backspike.

This is rather well indicated by the fact that it's polarity is the reverse of what the battery is putting in and it is the reverse of any collapse from the coil, the current it creates can be larger than created by the battery because it is induced in the coil and hence it's voltage is rather high. (just look at the energy in the spikes and calculate how much voltage it needs to fight the inductance)



Well,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 03:10:19 AM »
Well,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

So it should.

But the spikes are due to EM being pulled in.
Can you explain why they are in a backwards direction to the applied voltage? (when the brush is carbon-copper-carbon, or copper-aluminium-copper?  There is no unidirectional battery like connection here.

Question, how is the commutator being rotated without the magnet, likely you have another electric motor.

However it can pull energy from all sorts of surrounding or more distant EM fields.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2008, 07:38:40 AM »
hatiberlin:
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Onlov,
how many Newman machines have you built ?
Have you ever tested personally any Newman machine with scopes and meters ?

Maybe you tell (scientific) me, how you get energy from sparks and burning graphite?
You scope tests are wrong, because if scope (or machine) grounded, it's not overunity at all. So your results are only disturbance in metering circuit. Better way to return energy of coil with diode, like in flyback converter.

And how many overunity machine you have seen at making in industrial. It's thousands of crackpots, who says he have maked overunity machine, but i haven't see any working machine in the world!
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 08:35:13 AM by onlov »

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2008, 08:27:41 AM »
hartiberlin:
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Well,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

Sounds exactly same as flyback converter. I had newer heard at flyback converter have overunity features. And better and more economical way to return coil energy back to battery is with diode without sparks, smokes and lightings!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3654.msg61279.html#msg61279
hartiberlin:
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The Newman effect is based on the direct conversion of the contact
materials of dissimular metals at an arc at the commutator,
so there are coming free electrons into the
circuit which will give additional power output.

It sounds  as pseudoscientific explanation!
;D

« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 09:03:07 AM by onlov »

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 09:46:47 AM »
hartiberlin:
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The Newman effect is based on the direct conversion of the contact
materials of dissimular metals at an arc at the commutator,
so there are coming free electrons into the
circuit which will give additional power output.

It should be best made of copper and graphite
as this gives the graphite oxidation free electron effect into the circuit.

So the Lutec technology is basically the same as the Newman technology based
of:
The direct electrical conversion of burning ( oxidation) a carbon brush into
electrical energy.

If I add some graphite in the timing switch of cars ignition coil symtem, I can charge battery with the ignition coil and then I can  remove cars alternator. Ignition coil has lot of sparks and when I add graphite on timing swicth, I have own overunitymachine!
Right, Stefan?
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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2008, 01:17:47 PM »
So it should.

But the spikes are due to EM being pulled in.
Can you explain why they are in a backwards direction to the applied voltage? (when the brush is carbon-copper-carbon, or copper-aluminium-copper?  There is no unidirectional battery like connection here.

Question, how is the commutator being rotated without the magnet, likely you have another electric motor.

However it can pull energy from all sorts of surrounding or more distant EM fields.

Well,
could be, that it pulls energy in from the earth magnet field.

But one thing is for sure:
The dissimular graphite-copper commutator with the plasma spark jumping acts
like a battery in the circuit, where the plasma of the spark is the electrolyte.
This way this additional  "battery" pumps energy into the circuit during the spark
and thus therefrom comes the additional energy that we see in these negative current spikes.

I have long enough studied this effect and will soon build it into a new motor
that will drive my upcoming electroscooter after my vacations.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2008, 02:35:50 PM »
hartiberlin:
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I have long enough studied this effect and will soon build it into a new motor
that will drive my upcoming electroscooter after my vacations.

Regards, Stefan

I know, this overunity sites is good business for you, but you need to tell bullshit to keeping OU-fans and  people on this sites!  I think You are not so stupid, but you need to tell bullshit of overunity like that for running this business. Good Luck, Stefan!  ;) 
 
hartiberlin:
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But one thing is for sure:
The dissimular graphite-copper commutator with the plasma spark jumping acts
like a battery in the circuit, where the plasma of the spark is the electrolyte.
This way this additional  "battery" pumps energy into the circuit during the spark
and thus therefrom comes the additional energy that we see in these negative current spikes.

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 03:04:55 PM »
No Bullshit to it onlov, The BEMF is there. problem is people are too damn stupid to know how to collect it and use it. :)



hartiberlin:
I know, this overunity sites is good business for you, but you need to tell bullshit to keeping OU-fans and  people on this sites!  I think You are not so stupid, but you need to tell bullshit of overunity like that for running this business. Good Luck, Stefan!  ;) 
 
hartiberlin:

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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 07:25:24 AM »
Careica:
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8. Stefan, I think you have saw in YouTube user named armakuni2000 (STARK). He are showing how was J.Newman's original commutator made. He tell that the commutator should make multiple ON's and multiple OFF's, but he mean by OFF, that it should shortout the coil. So if I will make that commutator, do "shortout the coil" that I need to make closed loop IN coil. I mean, should I connect START and END of the coild wires together. Do that mean shortout the coil?

These pictures shows the costruction of the commutator:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif

Coil Short Out  means maybe shortcut = short circuit the coil?


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Re: New Newman Motor Replication
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 08:27:35 AM »
Careica:
These pictures shows the costruction of the commutator:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif

Coil Short Out  means maybe shortcut = short circuit the coil?



And this mean that I need to connect START of the coil windings whit END of the coil winings when brushes touch those "Shortout" terminals. Did I get it right? And when it is on that "Shorout" stage, then battery shouldn't give any energy to the system, so the system should be off when Shortout happend, right?

Now guestion to Stefan, is it important to have some amount of "ON" terminals on multicontact commutator, and multiple "Shortout" terminals? Or can I just randomly put some amounts of "ON" terminals but only at 180 degree?

Stefan, please, can you anserw those 8 guestions what I have sendet? I realy need anserw because I have all parts now, and I can start builing, but I need to know those things first. So please, anserw as fastest you can.

Careica

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