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Author Topic: MARS and back in 2 days...  (Read 54491 times)

Offline Koen1

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 02:03:12 PM »
Well, speed of light exceeded...
... they showed once again what we already knew: that quantum entangles particles
appear to "communicate" their states instantaneously.
This does not at all mean there must be anything "traveling faster than light".
It does mean that entangled particles are somehow in direct contact despite their
relative distance in space. That doesn't need any true "faster than light" travel
through that space, it just needs a slightly more complex dimensional system
where quantum entanglement is "communicated" via another dimensional axis
than those involved in movement through the 3 dimensions we call space.

Look at it this way: if we could teleport a person to Alpha Centauri instantly,
so that the person dematerialises here and rematerialises there at the same time,
would we call that "faster than light travel"? Nobody actually makes the journey through
space to Alpha Centauri... Nobody actually travels... the person just pops into
existence there... So is that "space flight" and "FTL travel"? Doesn't sound like it to me.
Yes, the person would have changed position with such a distance to time ratio
that it would not be possible to do it by actually physically moving through space at
very high velocity even for photons, and if the person had indeed moved through space
with such tremendous speed the person would indeed have traveled faster than light.
But the person never does so. The person never moves through space at high speed,
the person simply disappears here and re-appears there at the same time.

This is what such entangled particles do: they "teleport" information. They never
communicate that information by sending packets of particles with the encoded
information to eachother, they don't use matter traveling through space to communicate,
and so their communication doesn't really travel through space at the speed of light.
Yes, their communication does occur instantaneous and that is faster than would be
possible if they did use communication that needs to traverse space to get to the other
particle. But since that is not what is happening, there is still nothing moving faster than light.
So even though "spooky action at a distance" does appear to happen faster than light
could traverse that same distance, there is nothing actually physically traveling faster
than light through space. And so it is not FTL. One cannot make a spaceship fly faster than light,
even if we could somehow utilise quantum teleportation. Yes, effectively one might be able
to get somewhere by teleporting a lot faster than light ever could, but you would never actually
move faster than light through space. I guess you'd have to move through subspace of hyperspace
or something like that, circumventing "normal" spacetime, to do something like that.

;)

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 02:03:12 PM »

Offline triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2009, 06:40:03 AM »
I think solar sails( though slow) would be enough to get from from planet to planet.No fuel weight,just the pressure of sunlight from the sun to mars.Then from mars to saturn use concentrated sunlight and
liquid fuels to get around.Once you can get out of earth's gravity field.You would be able to travel the solar system using the sun's energy from the sun to Saturn and at least orbit the other planets.Chemical or nuclear rockets when you leave or land on a planet.I just saw another movie where you have one spacesuit and three men.But all three have to leave one ship to get to the other.Why not have barrels that a person can fit into?With handles?So the one guy with the suit can see that the other two gets into the airlock OK.No one goes floating off into space.Beyond Saturn we would need to use nuclear rockets.This are the tools we have now.Triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2009, 10:44:54 PM »
I stand corrected.There are some good videos on solar sailing on u-tube.They are able to take us clear out of the solar system to nearby stars.I thought they were only good to get to mars with.Triffid

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2009, 10:48:40 AM »
OK, silly idea to get some SPEED, from gravity.
There's plans to attached a wire between moon and earth, right? And both vary in distance quite a bit, correct?
Use the wire as a cata pult. Built properly, it will work. Launch from weightlessness, without air resistance.
Catapult maybe be the worng term. It will be like two people holding a wire across the room, it laying straight along the floor. An inverted V shaped object stands over the wire. On 3, PULL. the launch speed will be faster than the pull, and this is even against gravity. So imagine in "empty" space.

Any volunteers to take seat in the catarocket until we figure of a way to dampen the triple digit G forces?

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2009, 04:19:45 PM »
I like the idea of a wire attached between the moon and the earth.But for two reasons it may not work.First, there is too much stuff in orbit around the earth right now.Something will bump into it.Second,the earth moon system is constantly moving apart.A benefit might be that large electrical energies could be generated promoting travel for free between the earth and moon since the universe and sun,etc would be generating the power.Triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2009, 04:19:45 PM »
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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2009, 04:49:15 PM »
I like the idea of a wire attached between the moon and the earth.But for two reasons it may not work.First, there is too much stuff in orbit around the earth right now.Something will bump into it.Second,the earth moon system is constantly moving apart.A benefit might be that large electrical energies could be generated promoting travel for free between the earth and moon since the universe and sun,etc would be generating the power.Triffid
I forgot about rotations.
The wire might need to suspend in space and engage on both bodies simulatiously. Quite an operation.

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2009, 05:20:23 PM »


Look at it this way: if we could teleport a person to Alpha Centauri instantly,
so that the person dematerialises here and rematerialises there at the same time,
would we call that "faster than light travel"? Nobody actually makes the journey through
space to Alpha Centauri... Nobody actually travels... the person just pops into
existence there...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Your theory is a little off. I believe that to teleport something you will need a machine on both ends, one to tear you apart and one to put you back together. those machines will have to send your info back and forth, now you can choose radio signal (very slow) or a super laser beam (very fast) to send that info which will have to pass through space which in turn will take time.  It will not be instant. poof you are not there yet!!!

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2009, 05:20:23 PM »
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Offline Yucca

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2009, 10:27:46 PM »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Your theory is a little off. I believe that to teleport something you will need a machine on both ends, one to tear you apart and one to put you back together. those machines will have to send your info back and forth, now you can choose radio signal (very slow) or a super laser beam (very fast) to send that info which will have to pass through space which in turn will take time.  It will not be instant. poof you are not there yet!!!

A radio wave propogates at the speed of light, same as a laser. The fastest way to transmit information is probably to vibrate subspace (aka scalar waves, gravity waves, gravitons etc.) propogation speed to any point in the universe is said to take only one plank time quanta which is 10 to the minus 44 seconds which is:

0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds

Here´s a great article that I found a joy to read, plus it tells you how to make a scalar detector for just a couple of dollars.

http://www.rexresearch.com/hodorhys/remag86/remag86.htm

I have built a Hodowanec scalar detector as above and have managed to transmit scalar impulses through a shielded and grounded box to said detector using a FET driven Cadaceus coil outside of the shielded box.

Offline AbbaRue

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2009, 11:16:28 PM »
@Koen1
Your mention of entangled particles is along the lines that I have been considering. 
If solid matter could be Entangled like photons are somehow, then we
could accomplish some very interesting things.
I learned about this phenomenon a number of years ago on a science program, and it has intrigued  me ever since.
Imagine what it would do for the internet.

Offline triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2009, 03:29:09 PM »
I'm afraid the cheapest route to get into space will be used.But once we get there .The solar system better watch out!!!A thousand years later there will be people everywhere.I watched a couple of dvds on ice age hunters.After they entered the americas.It took them 1000 years to tranverse the americas.Something to think about.History does repeat itself often.Triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
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Offline dean_mcgowan

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2009, 03:57:01 PM »
how does one determine that a particle is already entangled or not?  And if it were already entangled then where is it's entangled buddy. My point being that if at the beggining of the universe it may be that all particles or quite a few may have been entangled and therefore we may already have a stargate type infrastructure at our disposal. Assuming ofcourse we can create a buddy detector.

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2009, 04:09:27 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

We really don't have a problem here.  Just use the Zero Point Module to generate the power.
Then feed the power to the Hyperspace Window Generator, and fly into the event horizon of the
worm hole, and BAM! your in orbit around Mars before you can blink an eye...  Oh, we have to
invent the Zero Point Module and the Hyperspace Window Generator before we can use them?
OK, well, uh, never mind...

Blessed Be Brothers and Sisters...
That was really going somewhere till the bit about windows. Blue screen of death.  Arrrrrrgh

Offline triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2009, 09:59:34 PM »
I would think that since the whole universe was once contained in a single point before the big bang.That all the matter we can see today is entangled.Triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2009, 01:01:45 AM »
It would have many implications. I hope one day to return to university and study this field.

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2009, 08:25:30 PM »
There is some evidence that about 25 to 30 humans crossed the landbridges into the americas about 30,000
years ago.While that picture is fuzzy it holds the promise that it may not take thousands of humans getting off the earth to seed the stars.It may take just a couple of hundred with no major mishaps.Also solar sailing would be one of the ways to go.It would take time.Maybe 3000 years to fill the solar system.Then go out further.No telling where the human race could be in 30,000 years.Just thinking/dreaming here.Triffid

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
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