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Author Topic: MARS and back in 2 days...  (Read 54490 times)

Offline exxcomm0n

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2008, 04:03:33 AM »
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Propulsion Technologies:
1.  Still can use rockets, ha ha, effective not practical.  Combined with the Antigrav system even a rocket can make the ship go a lot faster.
2.  Bifield Brown Thrusters, like on the toy lifters.  A serious Biefild Brown Thruster can theoretically propel a ship up to the speed of light.  These are also called Ion "Rockets" by the orthodoxy.
3.  My favorite propulsion technique is to use the Antigrav system as the propulsive force.  This requires a more complex system to have the Levitator act as a propulsion unit also, but I think it is the most elegant solution.
Powering the ship:
1.  The SEG produces an abundance of electrical power.  Good for running the ships systems and propelling the ship with Biefield Brown Thrusters.
2.  I haven't got to play with the German technologies but I suspect they generate a Free Energy Effect just like the SEG.
Once we have these advanced technologies I believe that the world will seem a lot bigger.  We will be able to inhabit places that were not assessable before.  People can commute a lot farther in a Levitator ship, so we won't feel so cramped and overcrowded.  Plus some of us can go live on Venus, Mars, or elsewhere.
Just say NO to cannibalism.
Blessed Be Brothers...

I'll go ya one better with an idea I am pirating from a Julian May Sci-Fi book.

If the saucer has it's gravity field that allows it to defy the downward pull of gravity, how 'bout adjusting the linear effect of gravity as well so you turn it on to create negation of that gravity as well  (although....2 gravities in differing directions could be quite challenging) and the earth spins under you at rotational speed until you reach your destination and you turn that negation off to stay synchronous with that destination.
Only really good for terrestrial travel, but somethings better than nothing.

But you're right, the controlling of gravity would be an awesome tool.
If you could focus it, your propulsion issue is solved as all you'd have to do is aim towards something of a significantly larger (or multiple) mass(es) than your self (saucer) and turn it on.
I'm still puzzled as there already has to be 2 gravitational units in action anyway (unless ship interior is continual free fall as a side effect of inertialessness.

I'll give it another gander Mr.

Blessed be brother....

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2008, 04:03:33 AM »

Offline khabe

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2008, 09:28:16 AM »
About Lazar,
Very interesting of course, but why he explanes some principles differently  - in some videos he talking about three gravity generators ... another videos about one generator and three gravity amplifiers. When 1...6 video (where he looks younger) then seems he is reading text from running screen ...
After looked total 2...3 hours - very turbid thoughts about.
What he is doing today ?
What is your opinion about Lazar?

regards,
khabe


 

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2008, 12:40:29 PM »
Howdy Khabe,

Bob Lazar is a US.Gov disinformation plant.  The Germans invented this stuff, anything the Americans have is a bad (evil) copy of German technologies.  Element 115 is hocus pocus designed to divert your attention from the truth.  From what I understand America did replicate this technology back in the 50's.  We have had a continuous prescience in space since then, and I am not talking about rockets.  Supposedly we have had secret bases on the Moon and on Mars since the 50's. NASA is a farce, a VERY expensive farce.  That money is channeled into secret projects.

Blessed Be Brothers...
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 01:26:56 PM by z.monkey »

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2008, 02:21:22 PM »
Howdy Khabe, Bob Lazar is a US.Gov disinformation plant.  The Germans invented this stuff, anything the Americans have is a bad (evil) copy of German technologies.  Element 115 is hocus pocus designed to divert your attention from the truth.  From what I understand America did replicate this technology back in the 50's.  We have had a continuous prescience in space since then, and I am not talking about rockets.  Supposedly we have had secret bases on the Moon and on Mars since the 50's. NASA is a farce, a VERY expensive farce.  That money is channeled into secret projects.
Blessed Be Brothers...
All is possible,
Even unnatural codswallop,
cheers,
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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2008, 02:28:10 PM »
My primitive thoughts about LightSpeed:
Earth is rushing through space around the Sun at a rate of about 67,000 miles per hour,
= 107826.05 km/h = 29.95 km/sec
Somewhere in equator because Earth rotates this speed (line-velocity) does vary +/- 0.5 km/sec.
(sorry - forget how to call "line velocity" ;-)
When -
someone, named as Observer, locates out of Sun System (but on the same level), standing unmoving for Sun, measures the
 speed of light of Laser beam,  based on the Earth, somewhere on the equator, and Lase is continually targeted to Observer
(as much as possible),

Then -
what result Observer will get?
The speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s as agreed upon,
It varies +/- 29.95 km/sec inside year and +/- 0.5 km/sec every 24 hours ???


Is the speed of light as absolute maximum (= 299 792 458 m/s) the ultimate truth ???

Regards,
khabe

"Observer" does see it like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BVzGOEwBQ
(here is no Laser at this time ;-)

PS:
If Observer locates more afield then much higher act-upon factors like rotating of of Milky Way, rotating of Sun system and another
comparative/relative velocity between each and all, all is in moving ...  etg ...



« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 03:04:33 PM by khabe »

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2008, 03:30:21 PM »
Howdy Khabe,

We can measure the speed of visible light on Earth.  But this is not the maximum speed of light.  Ultraviolet light travels faster than visible light.  Higher frequency equals higher velocity.  Beyond ultraviolet light there is what I call intangible light which can attain the maximum speed that photons can travel which is far greater than visible light.  We do not have the capability to measure the velocity of intangible light because we do not have the equipment necessary to perceive intangible light.  So the maximum speed of light is much higher than what is commonly thought of as "The Speed of Light"

There are ships out there that can travel many times faster than intangible light.  The information received from the secret chamber underneath Giza say that the "Warp" factors are exponentiations of the Speed of Light.  With a ship like that we could get to Mars in a matter of minutes...

Warp 1 is the Speed of Light.  Warp 2 is the SOL2.  Warp 3 is the SOL3. Et Cetera. 

Blessed Be Brothers...

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2008, 05:41:49 PM »
OK, understood. As well as I do understand that mentioned by me +/- speed will be detected by Observer as "doppler effect" - offset via spectrum (fault! - when declared/claimed about found or not found water (for example) ;-)
But anyway - Is the speed of  any light as absolute maximum - - - is it the ultimate truth of unexpired claims of science today ... or something could move faster ???

Regards,
khabe

Ohh, I see, you told YES  :o

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Offline wile_coyote7

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2008, 06:14:24 PM »
@hartiberlin

While browsing the interwebs, I stumbled upon this obscure news article:

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"Travel to Mars in 3 hours (Air force studies Trek tech)
The Scotsman ^ | January 5 2006 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 1/5/2006 8:42:46 AM by jbwbubba

AN EXTRAORDINARY "hyperspace" engine that could make interstellar space travel a reality by flying into other dimensions is being investigated by the United States government.

The hypothetical device, which has been outlined in principle but is based on a controversial theory about the fabric of the universe, could potentially allow a spacecraft to travel to Mars in three hours and journey to a star 11 light years away in just 80 days, according to a report in today's New Scientist magazine.

The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field that, according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard Heim in the 1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in thrust for a spacecraft.

Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would slip into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster, allowing incredible speeds to be reached. Switching off the magnetic field would result in the engine reappearing in our current dimension.

The US air force has expressed an interest in the idea and scientists working for the American Department of Energy - which has a device known as the Z Machine that could generate the kind of magnetic fields required to drive the engine - say they may carry out a test if the theory withstands further scrutiny."

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I don't know if it was meant to be funny or what, but it mentions a "Z Machine" used for propulsion. I did a quick Google search for "Z Machine" and found this:

http://zpinch.sandia.gov/

The main picture kinda reminds me of the engines from the ships in the Matrix movies.

Just thought you would like to know that there ARE in fact plans to build such a craft to do the very thing you had suggested. I wouldn't be suprised if they don't already have such a craft already working.

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2008, 06:44:30 PM »
Howdy wile_coyote7,

Stefan has already commented on what he thinks of the Z-Machine, check this out...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4210.0.html

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2008, 07:00:34 PM »
@z.monkey

Oops! I guess I missed that one. Thanks!

BTW......I'm trying to find what book Robert Heinlein suggested a constant thrust engine to get to Mars. I remember he suggested that you would need an engine with a constant thrust X percent of 1 G (Earth's gravity) to travel half the distance, then flip around and apply the same amount of thrust to slow down. Because there is no resistance in space other than from gravity (or if you hit something), if you accelerate at a constant rate, once you are half way thru your trip, you will have gotten to an extremely fast speed.

I'm still looking for the book. I thought it interesting. I'll post it once I find it.

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Offline Koen1

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2008, 01:56:47 PM »
I don't see why you should have to dig that up from a Heinlein SF novel...
Why don't you just calculate it?

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2008, 08:57:11 PM »
Howdy Wile_Coyote7,

I think that Robert Heinlien book is called "Farmer in the Sky".  They went to Ganymede, one of Jupiters moons, not Mars.  I read that one like 25 years ago.  Too bad they didn't know that Jupiter was going to turn into a star.  Oh well...

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2008, 05:46:56 PM »
Possible warp drive within the boundries of Phyiscs. That will get you to Mars and back very quickly.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/08/15/sciwarpdrive115.xml

Energy required is a bit of a problem LOL! All you would need is to convert the ENTIRE mass of Jupiter into energy.

Somehow, I don't think a Linnard Griffin Electrolysis Reactor would do the trick...LOL!

Ahhhh...where are those Dilithium Crystals when you need them?


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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2008, 03:00:21 AM »
Howdy Y'all,

We really don't have a problem here.  Just use the Zero Point Module to generate the power.
Then feed the power to the Hyperspace Window Generator, and fly into the event horizon of the
worm hole, and BAM! your in orbit around Mars before you can blink an eye...  Oh, we have to
invent the Zero Point Module and the Hyperspace Window Generator before we can use them?
OK, well, uh, never mind...

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Re: MARS and back in 2 days...
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2008, 08:00:46 AM »
Nicolas Gisin, Professor University of Geneva, made experiment where speed of light was exceed 10000 times.
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/813/3
Gruss,
khabe

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