All,

People are overcomplicating the circuit and process for nothing. It is VERY SIMPLE to get water to explode with little energy input in the spark plug discharge of an ignition system. All that is needed is a small cap of a few hundred volts and a few uf and a high CURRENT high voltage diode, placed in series across the spark plug. You can use WHATEVER to charge the cap to a few hundred volts DC. An inverter, oscillator, anything.

All you need to do is make sure that the series loop of the capacitor, diode and spark plug is very very low resistance. In fact as low as you can get it for your components. The lower the resistance of this loop, the lower the energy input requirement is to make the water explode. It is possible to do this with even a few hundred milliamps.

The key component here is the diode. It MUST be a HV diode to protect the capacitor and power supply from shunting the ignition pulse but it also MUST be a HIGH CURRENT diode to reduce the series loop resistance as much as possible. A microwave diode is a good HV diode but it is NOT a good high current diode. The diode must be able to handle very short surges in the hundreds of amps! This is why I use many 1N5404 diodes in series. These are 400V 4 amp diodes they can handle surges in the hundreds of amps. Putting them in series turns them into a single HV diode capable of handling thousands of volts. If you have many microwave oven diodes then put as many as you got in parallel. But they are expensive so it is much more cost effective to simply use many 1N5404 diodes in series or series parallel combinations.

As I have explained the circuit requirement and operation to explode water in an ignition is very simple. So simply that no one will believe it but it just is. S1r9a9m9's circuit uses heavy 60 amp diodes but is too complicated and not necessary. His use of coils is simply to get the same effect as a capacitor, just in an inverse reactive way.

There is no energy gain in this circuit! The in his circuit the measured difference between 36K 0.8 amp input and 24K 6amp output is just what his meters are showing when the ignition pulse and the inverter pulse is mixed. It is NOT real power. The real power and energy and magic is the the water explosion itself. This is the only place in this circuit where something unconventional is occurring.

The energy appears the be negative in this explosion.

Ossie

Been following the S1R water car for awhile now. Glad I came across this site and this particular post. I have very little understanding of electronics but I have great mechanical/fabrication skills. I tried replicating callanan's first diagram he posted and cannot get it to work for me. I get no high voltage spark unless I unhook either side of the bridge rectifier. I don't have enough electrical knowledge to know what's going on with it but if somebody will post up a simple design that actually works then I can have this on a small engine in a flash and see what happens.

Gimme the electrical and I'll do the mechanical basically is what I'm saying then I'll post a video if it's successful.

OSSIE seeing first hand the effect   what do you think is going on here combustion? like the MEYER spark plug ?  Chet

Hi ramset,

I have no idea what Meyer did with his spark plug. I know he wound up being able to pump water straight into it. But if Meyer unltimately wound up doing what we are doing, then it makes sense that he kept it so secret and may have even been killed for it because it really is pretty simple and when people catch on, everyone will be doing it.

I have other people reporting to me now their successfull replications of how I am doing it. They are all confirming the explosion of the water and how there is no heat! We are all bewildered abut this. But I have done pressure tests with tubes and pipes around the spark plug that fire out a projectile and it is definately an explosion and not an implosion as gases are expanding out from the ignition point, very, very fast.

Ossie

Hi ramset,

I said it is an explosion and the result is expanding gases very fast but I said nothing about heat! The explosion is cold! No heat! Forget about your heating plans with this. This is cold kinetic energy. I don't know about water plasma flames but I do remember that you can run your hand through a pure HHO flame without getting burnt. Those were the days of Brown's gas...

Ossie

Hi ramset,

I said it is an explosion and the result is expanding gases very fast but I said nothing about heat! The explosion is cold! No heat! Forget about your heating plans with this. This is cold kinetic energy. I don't know about water plasma flames but I do remember that you can run your hand through a pure HHO flame without getting burnt. Those were the days of Brown's gas...

Ossie

Hi Ossie, I came across this postulation from SirHoax: SHOCKWAVE, i.e. Kinetic energy not Heat energy

Currently I came across some designs for making water explode but without a hydrogen electrolysis process. By generating a plasma electrical wave you can ignite water at rates of 4500 Meters a Second. It creates an extremely strong shock wave through the air.

Another aspect of this theory is that you can mist water into your cylinders, or a cold water vapor. Then generate a plasma spark ignition with a standard spark plug or a firestorm plug of some sort. This video is evidence that a plasma ignition in water will make a shock wave and in turn the ability to explode water inside your cylinder.

from his video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9NvboKL43Q

How would you folks like to rock the world,

Lawn mower motors and old Camaro's are wonderful but if you want to change the world think ''Transportation''

I am talking about the big trucks that move our food and just about everything else we use on a daily basis at four dollars a gallon plus here in the states this has shot the price of food to record levels,

Based on what I have been seeing here the concept and electronics are well on the way to being sorted out.

Rudolf had it right, he created an engine that would run on any thing that contained calories, but he missed H20.

Anyone here willing or able to to take on the conversion of a diesel motor.

I would start with a modified glo plug as a ignitior. The only other issue I see is the injector pump timeing.

But that's what I think.

Be Well
Tinker

 

 

Tinker and other HHO for diesel design seekers, I have started a new thread to focus on HHO set up's for diesel engines to help keep this thread focused on the topic that it was started for. The new thread link is as follows:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5045.msg108993/topicseen.html#msg108993