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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 142754 times)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2014, 03:46:50 AM »
Dear dieter and famhand,

Back emf = counter emf = result of input and is definitely no free.

Think of damped waves oscillations instead of supplying the primary with a resonant (undamped wave oscillation). Damped wave oscillation gives huge explosive bursts of energy in milli/ micro/ nano seconds.

(Primary self resonance must = all secondary self resonance, for min energy consumtion or highest efficiency)

This momentary discharge by caps gives huge spikes of emf and back emf. Theses spikes of back emf are a result of energy supplied by us and are not free.

These huge spikes of back emf are successive to forward emf in every cycle.

Now here comes the exploitation of back emf : (I am theorising now, which needs validation)

Secondary 1 : Has a circuit at the output to capture almost full forward emf and feeds to a dc capacitor. The circuit is such that it doesnt capture back emf.
Secondary 2 : Has a circuit at the output to capture almost full reverse emf and feeds to another dc capacitor.this circuit is such that it doesnt capture forward emf.

In real time, first the forward emf is generated and captured almost say 95% with system losses and fed to cap.

Now the wave collapses and till its zero our cap is filled with energy of the forward wave. When the wave is collapsing forward emf dampens but simutaneously reverse emf wave amplitude increases.

Now comes the second pickup coil in picture. Second pick up coil captures only this counter emf, courtesy to the circuit connected to it and now feeds a second capacitor say with 5% system losses.


Now you have 2 caps filled up each with 95% of the inititially supplied energy say E, after the end of one cycle of emf and back emf in each completed oscillation of your damped wave oscillation.

As a result if you supplied 1 joule for creating one damped wave oscillation, you are in effect capturing 95% + 95 % by the end of one cycle. That equals 190 % total.

So input was 1 joule for each cycle but the output is 1.9 joule for each cycle.

Its upto us now how to design our output circuits of each secondary and how to design and place our primary and secondary to exploit this to our benefit.

It seems simple to think and understand to me but maybe I forgot to consider something, which may be added by you to develop on this theory or dump this theory.

This theory doesnt voilate laws of thermodynamics and there is no exotic aether involved either.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2014, 03:46:50 AM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2014, 04:09:29 AM »
I forgot to mention that our input is pulsing DC only.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #92 on: March 16, 2014, 06:44:11 AM »
In the attached art Tesla probably very elusively describes turning back emf in "displacement current".

Will it lead to overunity ???  :-\ :-\ :-\

Comments please.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #93 on: March 16, 2014, 09:36:04 AM »
I believe so.  :-\  If only somebody could explain me why Lenz law is harshing the resonance in transformer setup when primary is joined to capacitor to form tank circuit. Yes, I know that the load on secondary change mutual inductance of core, but it ONLY an EXCUSE - we don't understand it step by step and that's the REAL difference between us and the real inventors.
Judging on the patents amount there is a way to eliminating Lenz law from the device.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2014, 09:54:46 AM »
I believe so.  :-\  If only somebody could explain me why Lenz law is harshing the resonance in transformer setup when primary is joined to capacitor to form tank circuit. Yes, I know that the load on secondary change mutual inductance of core, but it ONLY an EXCUSE - we don't understand it step by step and that's the REAL difference between us and the real inventors.
Judging on the patents amount there is a way to eliminating Lenz law from the device.

You got me wrong, I want to use Lenz Law to be put to useful work. I want to add work done by my initial pulse and Lenz Law to combine and gimme higher output than input.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2014, 09:54:46 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2014, 10:01:24 AM »
Dear Forest
I also have the same question and i have read many opinions on this. I started to believe that the real resonance is not what we have been taught in school. At least not the OU or Lenzless resonance. For me, real resonance occurs when the resonant frequency has a harmonic that matches with the length of the wire so to make it oscillate at it's own frequency. If that happens to both primary and secondary, then we talk about Lenz law bending. To take an idea take a look at my latest approach in Radu Morisan oscillator circuit here...   

http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/15/

If this wire length/frequency relation is the same to both primary and secondary, the oscillation is constructive and not destructive which is the case in Lenz law.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2014, 10:25:15 AM »
Resonance between L1 and L2 can take place at Wavelegth, 1/2 Wavelength and 1/4 Wavelength.

For best loss less resonant effect keep frequency a bit low. About 25Khz.

Keep self inductance very high compared to capacitance of the L1 and L2 both. Your radiating losses shall be minimised to 5% if you follow the above.

Think think.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2014, 10:25:15 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #97 on: March 16, 2014, 10:46:42 AM »
DonSmith Chines replication, by Mr.Tang.




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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2014, 01:23:52 PM »
DON SMITH WAS NOT A FAKE
;D ;D ;D

here is the proof :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbtkAm5_J0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BsQxIoiwzg
http://youtu.be/4tHMtfbLBYQ
this is just half wave or full wave rectification,   this in it self does not prove he was not a fake, this is not free energy, 
if you dont understand ,  put a tin foil on a neon lamp or just an energy saving lamp, and connect a half or full wave rectifier and a caoacitor to the output and watch the voltage rise in the capacitor.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2014, 01:23:52 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #100 on: March 16, 2014, 02:11:46 PM »
this is just half wave or full wave rectification,   this in it self does not prove he was not a fake, this is not free energy, 
if you dont understand ,  put a tin foil on a neon lamp or just an energy saving lamp, and connect a half or full wave rectifier and a caoacitor to the output and watch the voltage rise in the capacitor.

Replication of one of his experiments does raise some hope. How much power that youtube plasma tube might be using afterall. It shows charging a cap by induction. And electrostatic systems have a COP of 2 minus system losses.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #101 on: March 16, 2014, 02:13:06 PM »
Right, but where to buy such plasma tube ?


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #102 on: March 16, 2014, 02:17:21 PM »
Alibaba.com and 40 thieves  ;D ;D

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« Reply #104 on: March 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM »

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