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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 130466 times)

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2011, 12:30:35 AM »
Spark gaps are broadband transmitters. The spew.
You're correct.  I think they were outlawed by the FCC for that reason.  Lakhovsky radiating coils should be able do the same thing over an enormous bandwidth range.

I did see a schematic once awhile back that indicated that choke coils at the input were EMI suppressors.  Then I found this:

http://www.murata.com/products/catalog/pdf/c09e.pdf

They're designed, I imagine, for 50-60 Hz.  The question is:  Will these have any beneficial effect on a spark gap or Lakhovsky coil?

--Lee

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2011, 12:30:35 AM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2011, 10:02:33 PM »
Thinking of spark gaps and the magnetic field watch the first few minutes of this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJvmsnQ1Z0


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2011, 12:07:37 AM »
It is now 08/22/11. I have been at it sourcing parts for a second Don Smith type device. This is my own design. It is much simpler to do. The initial frequency can be anything necessary to generate maximum power with parts on hand. Then d/c it and use a standard  frequency circuit for 60 HZ. Most AC lines are 57-63 cycles all the time anyway. Not dead on 60 HZ.  The caps can be 600 volt units. This duplicates Tesla's spike generators he used. I'm having to build the Neon Sign transformer because all of a sudden you can only buy 4KV 60 HZ units. The 35,700HZ 30,000KV are no longer made by "Government" orders. Something about a danger to the public.

Never Give Up!!!

Dr. BOB.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2011, 12:19:17 AM »
Dr Bob,

Could you please post a schematic & parts list for your Don Smith unit?

According to all of the posts I have read through the years, nobody seems to be able to make a Don Smith work.
There are HUNDREDS of frustrated folks out there that have really tried to do it, but to no avail.

Thanks.

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« Last Edit: August 23, 2011, 02:45:42 AM by FatBird »


Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2011, 04:11:15 AM »
...According to all of the posts I have read through the years, nobody seems to be able to make a Don Smith work. ...
... There are HUNDREDS of frustrated folks out there that have really tried to do it, but to no avail.
I read a long time ago in a (probably now-defunct) free energy magazine that the article author indicated only the genius inventors of decades past (e.g. Moray, Tesla) were born with the innate ability to tune their creations by mere "feel".  Daniel Pomerleau is a prime example.

Even I have a hard time getting some results from simple experiments.  The Joule Thief for OU (as such) is still elusive, is it not?  Has anyone claimed the OU.com prize yet?

--Lee

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2011, 04:11:15 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2014, 04:52:12 PM »
Dr Bob,

What happened with your Don Smith device replication efforts. Would you like to share your results with us.  ;D

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2014, 02:53:53 AM »
Good pdf on page 1 (chapter3 or so), other than thst, I think this thread was resting in peace.
Funny Smith Generator, 8 neodyms, couple o coils, 400 kilowatts :-) , just don't forget the neodym powder sprinkles... Well I wish it were so easy. Tho, basicly the designs and theories look good.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Offline Google

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2014, 03:31:04 AM »
Dieter,

I am trying to replicate don smith device in which one primary is magnetically coupled to 4 secondaries and loading the secondaries doesnt load the primary due to pure magnetic coupling.

My one primary and 3 resonant secondaries are ready.

I am using a 12 V 7Ah accumulator for powering it. Battery is connected to an 18 watt CFL inverter circuit and inverters output goes to a flyback bsc25 t1010a.

Flyback is a latest fresh piece used in televisions. Flyback pin 1 and 10 are input and pin 6 and HV are output.

I have connected two homemade leden jars in parallel to flyback output. And these parallel  wires are connected in series via a spark gap to the primary. Not using earth connection anywhere.

However I have an earth wire to watertap and that wire when brought 1 inch close to HV output side gives loud earhuring blue clattering sparks.

But surprisingly when brought close to the other side of output there is hardly any spark, just a small soundless faint thin arc that dies when the distance is more than 4 mm.

Why so ?? Shouldnt both the sides of HV output give same spark while close to earth wire ??

Is it due to the inbuilt hv diode on the hv main output of flyback and no diode on other hv output ??

What is the reason of this anamoly ? Before I go further I want to resolve this.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2014, 05:07:23 AM »
This is a great looking Mazilli driver that I'm building built with a TV Flyback. I've seen some good results from others that have built it. Should fix your small spark :)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2014, 08:11:12 AM »
Google, I can't answer your question, but you're scaring me with that HV thingie connected to the water tap... be careful. Some wrong wiring and a kid or so in an other room could be zapped, and caps+HV=pushing roses.


Some of smiths stuff sounds pretty good, plausible. But the fact that he said he always omits some info has made be keep on searching elsewhere. I hate to dig in the dark.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2014, 09:49:34 AM »
Hi@all
Google, you obviously use as a secondary, one coil taped in the middle to ground. As Don Smith says (and he is right), one side of the coil would be HV, and the other would be high current! Those coil ends should not be attached together and then to a capacitor as most of the circuits of zilano show. Your coil ends should be attached one to one leg of the capacitor, and the other to the other leg of the capacitor.

 If your secondary is two coils in series CW and CCW taped in the center, then you will take at both sides HV and then can easily connect them together through diodes to one leg of the capacitor, and the other leg of Cap to ground. In your case (first case), it is normal to see HV only to one side.

I am sorry for my poor English.
Tnks
Jeg

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2014, 11:15:28 AM »
Hi@all
Google, you obviously use as a secondary, one coil taped in the middle to ground. As Don Smith says (and he is right), one side of the coil would be HV, and the other would be high current! Those coil ends should not be attached together and then to a capacitor as most of the circuits of zilano show. Your coil ends should be attached one to one leg of the capacitor, and the other to the other leg of the capacitor.

 If your secondary is two coils in series CW and CCW taped in the center, then you will take at both sides HV and then can easily connect them together through diodes to one leg of the capacitor, and the other leg of Cap to ground. In your case (first case), it is normal to see HV only to one side.

I am sorry for my poor English.
Tnks
Jeg


Can you explain how one end can have current and second one voltage ? Are they out of phase ? CW and CW with center tap?


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2014, 01:01:15 PM »
You mean to say big spark side of secondary is high voltage and small spark side of secondary is high current ?

Its confusing please explain.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2014, 01:31:58 PM »
Flyback transformers have a lot of pins and it's easy to get the wrong one as the bottom "hv output".  When you use the correct pin.... and you do NOT use the flyback's own primary, but you put your own primary on the exposed part of the ferrite core.... you can get real results from your flyback.

If it's HV sparks with a lot of current you want.... examine your assumptions. Maybe they are leading you astray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2014, 01:35:09 PM »
Hi again
All the info about Don Smith resonance systems is disclosed in Don's Lectures on Youtube. No problem to say it again.

Everything in nature is consists of two particles that always goes together in balance. If you separate them through a coil, those particles are moving in a try to reunite again. You can call these particles plus and minus, or north and south magnetic currents (Leedskalnin terminology), or just electrons doublets the one being negative and the other more negative (Don Smith terminology). The more negative represents voltage and the other current.
If you take them from ground in to your system by taping in the middle a coil, then one kind of those doublets go right and the other left. The power that you take is because of their try to reunite again. If your secondary is just one coil being tapped in the middle, one side will give HV and the other side the current. If your secondary is two coils one being CW and the other CCW, then both sides of your secondary will be HV, and ground in the middle will give you the other kind of particles which are responsible for the current. When those two kinds find each other through i.e a resistance they give real VA power.

Tnks
Jeg

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