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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 144499 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2009, 10:18:37 PM »
" The following is a radio photograph taken at 408 MHz, that is, all the energy visible in the photograph resonates magnetic flux at 408 MHz, far beyond the spectrum of visible light. (Photo courtesy of Radio Sky, Haslam 408 MHz; www.tuc.nrao.edu .

Our Milky Way Galaxy measures 150 light years, end to end. Red and Yellow indicate the actual galactic boundaries, outer radiated energy is displayed in green. Not visible in this photograph, the Earth exists near the left end of the central high energy area, surrounded by a soup of energy that extends in all directions."


408 MHz far beyond the visible spectrum? How about far BELOW...
Galaxy measures 150 light years end to end? Ummm....maybe it's just a bit bigger than that...

And that's just a randomly selected paragraph.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2009, 10:18:37 PM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2009, 04:45:02 PM »
today I tried to rebuild a device I saw on the website of Donald L. Smith (http://www.altenergy-
The only difference was that I used a wire with smaller diameter (0.7mm) but more turns (10) for the coil on the top of the plasma ball.   
Then you are doomed to fail.

Don Smith's seminal text is "Resonance energy methods", and RESONANCE is EVERYTHING

This is what I reckon:
You used the wrong wire which changed the resistance and used more turns which changed the inductance.
This circuit is like a figure of eight; two circuits with a common item, the capacitors. The first circuit
is driven by the plasma ball, which outputs voltage at a certain frequency. This frequency must resonate
with the inductor (on top of the plasma ball) and the capacitor.

The second circuit uses the same capacitor (more likely a bank of caps) and the inductance of the
output transformer, the secondary of which takes your load. This second circuit must resonate internally
but it must resonate with the first circuit also

       ------------------------------------
       !                        !                        !
       !                        !                        !
  transformer         capacitor                 coil (fed from plasma ball)
       !                        !                        !
       !                        !                        !
       ------------------------------------


Paul-R


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2009, 06:09:59 PM »
http://transenergy.tripod.com/index.htm
Is a copy of Don L Smith's homepage. And no, it is not my copy.

Waste of time, It is not a copy, it has been grossly altered, someones attempt at humour perhaps?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2009, 04:21:17 PM »


Offline Yucca

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2009, 11:16:38 PM »
Cheers Paul-R. I had read it before but forgot the URL, Making local copy now...

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2009, 11:16:38 PM »
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Offline Goat

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2009, 12:29:50 AM »
Thanks Paul-R

The pdf files were a good read, but I now have some questions if anyone is interested in looking into them.

Concerning the drawings and descriptions from http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf

Page 3/92 shows a 5 turn coil on the plasma globe.
Page 8/92 show the copper and aluminum plates as a capacitor on the plasma tube.

Drawing 2/4 on page 16/92 shows the capacitor plates connected to the battery then to the inverter.
Drawing 3/4 on page 17/92 shows the capacitor plates connected to a terminal block as in the picture on Page 8/92.

Is there drawback(s) or gain(s) from using either a coil or capacitor plates as shown?

If the coil on the plasma globe/tube is connected as shown on Drawing 2/4 page 16/92 you'd end up with a short across the battery.  If the coil goes to a terminal block, then to a load, it would depend on the load match as far as it being dead short or a nearly open circuit.

If the capacitor on the globe/tube is connected as shown on Drawing Drawing 3/4 page 17/92 the configuration wouldn't be a short on the battery but would the capacitor actually give back anything to the battery?

Regards,
Paul

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2009, 04:57:44 PM »
Dear Paul,

It is very important to realise that Don Smith is describing several different setups
and to keep them separate. There is the plasma tube with its huge capacitor
half way along - there is the plasma globe with its coil sitting on the top - there
is the wheel of shielding material rotating infront of eight pairs of magnets shrouded
in pick up coils.

The coil sitting on the plasma globe works a bit like two LC tank circuits that I
described above, EXCEPT that the left hand circuit needs an adjustable spark
gap. The plasma globe gives off a high frequency voltage which drives the
right hand tank circuit and MUST BE IN RESONANCE. And there is the left hand
tank circuit (with capacitors in common with the first circuit) with its output
transformer which must resonate along with the right hand circuit.

Anyway, that's what I think.

Paul-R

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2009, 04:57:44 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2009, 05:10:37 PM »
Sorry, folks, Message 16 is not right.
The left hand tank circuit needs an adjustable spark gap:

            ------------------------------------
            !                        !                        !
  <--- output                   !                        !
  <--- transformer       capacitor                 coil (fed from high frequency signal from plasma ball)
            !                        !                        !
            !                        !                        !
            -------o   o-------------------------



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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2009, 05:37:01 PM »
Thanks Paul-R

The pdf files were a good read...

You might like to see this:
http://tinyurl.com/lvv62r
Paul-R

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 05:07:25 PM »
Sorry, folks, Message 16 is not right.
The left hand tank circuit needs an adjustable spark gap:

            ------------------------------------
            !                        !                        !
  <--- output                   !                        !
  <--- transformer       capacitor                 coil (fed from high frequency signal from plasma ball)
            !                        !                        !
            !                        !                        !
            -------o   o-------------------------


Paul-R
Have you, or anyone, tested this circuit for overunity?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 05:07:25 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 05:39:33 PM »
Have you, or anyone, tested this circuit for overunity?
--Lee
I think Don Smith have said in his video's that he could test his devices in circuit simulation software, before he built them. That is something I very much would like to do also. High voltage and fine tuning of resonance, makes it tricky to get it right (for me anyway). Hopefully someone who is better in using circuit simulation than me, could share their files here on the forum perhaps?
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 05:44:09 PM »
I think Don Smith have said in his video's that he could test his devices in circuit simulation software, before he built them. That is something I very much would like to do also. High voltage and fine tuning of resonance, makes it tricky to get it right (for me anyway). Hopefully someone who is better in using circuit simulation than me, could share their files here on the forum perhaps?
--johnnyfg
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Simulation software is based on mathematical principles that should be accurate, but to be sure, the device should be built and tested by hand with accurately calibrated equipment.

--Lee
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 04:40:54 AM by the_big_m_in_ok »


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2010, 12:22:44 PM »
The recent agentgates SNAFU attracted this post from -[marco]-:

Okay so i can answer this for you as it is a good question :)

The fat primary winding that all 3 devices have in common:

This fat few turn primary tickles the secondary "under the chin"
Mr. E Dollard explaind this, he said the charge generated by this fat primary coil was moving too fast for the electrons in the secondary to keep up with.
According to him this had a choking effect on the electrons and the flow of cold electricity was the result.  :)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg216241#msg216241

Marco's recent graphic, (from his quoted link above,) names Gray, Dollard, and Smith, all using the same concept, (as quoted above.)  This in late 2009.

However, Stefan had this to say about Smith back in 2005:

The devices of Don Smith seem to be a fake and he also could never prove, that
they worked as claimed. He is doing the free energy scene no good with his fakes...

Regards, Stefan.

As a result of this posting, user GM gave up:

Oh, it's a great pity to hear this. So I stop now tring to reconstruct Don's experiements.

But nevertheless I show you the pictures from my plasmaball setup.

Bye Markus

Today, ramset has this to say about agentgates:

Paul

I've seen some pretty fast operators in my day!

But buddy you jump to conclusions WAYYYYY to quickly!!

There is to much at stake to act this way!!
once this is analyzed [in progress] the rest will be obvious!
And the results shared with all 

No stone unturned!

Chet

Keep looking fellows !

Maybe we should give a Don Smith device another chance, like the one shown in marco's graphic.

Stefan, do you have some evidence of Don Smith fakery?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2010, 10:11:26 PM »
Folks:
       I worked at a place that built parts that ran on 570 kv ac and had to last 120 years for special government projects. The problem is that things keep changing. Take the Monster speaker wire that Don Smith was using. They don't make it any more with 538 copper wires in the cable. I now have a plasma ball, the only place to get one is "Target" stores. I'm using 4 gauge welding wire because it has 538 wire strands. I can get Capacitors that take 100 kv and in almost any Microfarad i need. I have tracked 20 kv 600 amp diodes and am building a workshop to do the research work. I will build a wire winder for prototypes. I have tracked down a wire supplier for all kinds of transformer wire. I have a supplier for Neon Sign transformers that are 60 kv at 60 milliamps. All of this has taken 2 years. I am funding this from my own pocket, as all the gov't funding went to "Exxon". I'll update when all is together. If this works or not, i must try to find out. No reason not to.

Dr Bob


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2010, 11:07:15 PM »
Nice Dr.Bob keep up the good work I am trying to replicate the plasma ball device but it seems that it's a bit complicated more than I thought. :-\
I still try it but be aware as Don always says it produce high voltages and are lethal.
Ok thanks

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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