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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 146440 times)

Offline energia9

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #105 on: March 16, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »
Replication of one of his experiments does raise some hope. How much power that youtube plasma tube might be using afterall. It shows charging a cap by induction. And electrostatic systems have a COP of 2 minus system losses.
that plasma is about 6-10 watts / hour,  it shows charging a cap by rectification of high voltage,   Electrostatic systems do not have cop 2 minus losses,   more like they are less than 70 % efficient.

i have done a very high power one before , 
see my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MpTeEP6zi0

i made a version of this high voltage power rectifier where i could light up a 500 watt lightbulb to exploding brightness every 5 seconds.  only with 12 watts an hour input power.
The way you can do it is high voltage speed diodes and high voltage high capacitance capacitors,  the more you connect in series the more concentrated the power gets in them , and you get shorter and shorter but higher energy outputs,  in a very short period of time,  but very short rectification recovery time
But this is still not Overunity my friend ....  very very far from that

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #105 on: March 16, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #106 on: March 16, 2014, 04:21:16 PM »
Energia9,

I watched the video, interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. Input was 11.8 watts and did you repeat the experiment with many caps in series and bothered to measure the output as recitified dc after smoothening it and connected to a load.

I really appreciate your experiment but you left it half the way. Why not complete it and test input vs output.

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Ps. If you get ou, please dont forget to share with us. ;D


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #107 on: March 16, 2014, 04:23:18 PM »
Here is the Japanese version of ds device.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #108 on: March 16, 2014, 05:03:19 PM »
i measured how much current and voltage flew from the capacitors every 5 seconds when my 500 watt bulb lit to full,   it was 400V at 100 ampers, but for a fraction of a milisecond, thats why i was able to even damage 100 watt lightbulbs connected in series, the power goes up so high but just for a fraction of a milisecond at discharge,   when i connected a transformer in series with my bulb,  the transformer of course gave a very big humming noise, and i even damaged one.   
this thing is very dangerous btw,   touching 400V  at 100 ampers even in a fraction of a second can stop your heart.
if i would have time of a second worth of 400V at 100 ampers at discharge , i could light up  40 Kilowatts theorytically,  but i would need to scale up the  input to 90 watts,  and my number of capacitors would need to be 480 pieces in series.   so with this i could light forty thousand watts worth of lamps for just a fraction of a second.     but it would look as if it was lit for 1.5 seconds,   because it lights up, then it takes half a second to dim down.
dont play with this very dangerous.   


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #109 on: March 16, 2014, 05:21:35 PM »
 :-\  Very high explosive burst from the caps 40,000 watts in one nano second. It can melt a screwdriver if used to short the caps.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #109 on: March 16, 2014, 05:21:35 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #110 on: March 16, 2014, 06:57:34 PM »
ya i was blind and deaf for an hour for doing that... ;D

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #111 on: March 17, 2014, 06:11:36 AM »
★ I watched ds video of 2001 conf. He said that if you create a rippling magnetic field then you can tap it unlimited number of times. Was he true in saying that, what you all think ?

★★ Its like saying, take an induction cooktop of 1000 watts and place 10 pancake coils over it and take out 10,000 watts from an input of just 1000 watts, assuming each coil is resonant with the cooktop coil, also assuming no system losses.

★★★ Seems to good to be true.

Farmhand, dieter, forest, energia9... please reply. What does your best hunch and gut feel says about it.

To me it seems very funny. At the most you can place one coil over cooktop and take out max. 900 watts output. I have seen some video on it but only witha single coil as output. It was called GEGENE in the video. Let me search and I will post a link here soon.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #112 on: March 17, 2014, 06:30:13 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgifXEOYx_U by Jean Lui Naudin of JLN LABS

Input from the grid was some 1150 watts while output was some 1900 watts.  ???

Measurement error or what ?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #113 on: March 17, 2014, 06:35:56 AM »
Here are the video shots of input and output.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #114 on: March 17, 2014, 06:36:43 AM »
★ I watched ds video of 2001 conf. He said that if you create a rippling magnetic field then you can tap it unlimited number of times. Was he true in saying that, what you all think ?

★★ Its like saying, take an induction cooktop of 1000 watts and place 10 pancake coils over it and take out 10,000 watts from an input of just 1000 watts, assuming each coil is resonant with the cooktop coil, also assuming no system losses.

★★★ Seems to good to be true.

Farmhand, dieter, forest, energia9... please reply. What does your best hunch and gut feel says about it.

To me it seems very funny. At the most you can place one coil over cooktop and take out max. 900 watts output. I have seen some video on it but only witha single coil as output. It was called GEGENE in the video. Let me search and I will post a link here soon.

Best,
Woopy (Laurent) on this forum did quite a bit of work with the Gegene. He seemed to move on from it though.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #114 on: March 17, 2014, 06:36:43 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #115 on: March 17, 2014, 06:41:40 AM »
@jimboot,

Please watch and comment on JLN video I posted and the scope measured COP of 1900/1150.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #116 on: March 17, 2014, 06:56:08 AM »
Here are the video shots of input and output.

Best,

In my honest opinion, and going by my own experience with energy meters, I can say they do not read the input to some devices correctly especially HF devices which cause noise on the supply lines, it glitches the meters due to the transients I think. I placed an energy meter to measure the input to my Big Tesla coil without any line filters between the meter and the MOT supply circuit, it told me all kinds of stuff, then it died, an extreme example, however after using two line filters and Power Factor correcting the MOT's and ensuring there was no sparking to the circuit ground by the spark gap, I get stable and accurate readings from different energy meters, they tell me it runs with a PF or over 0.90.
And the input is coherent with the calculated input. Whereas before I took the above measures to minimize the Noise on the lines the meter always showed smaller than actual input values, due I guess to computation errors as a result of the electrical noise on the supply lines. 

I can only say that if it were OU it would be lighting up the internet by now. My guess is the actual input is different to the measured input by the energy meter or the calculated output are incorrect. AC power measurement can be complex, especially when dealing with non sinusoidal wave forms. Meters have flaws. The input and output would need to be determined by a thorough power analysis.

I would be more inclined to believe the input measured is correct if he showed that he has line filters between the energy meter and the Device Under Test.

Cheers


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #117 on: March 17, 2014, 07:56:21 AM »
@farmhand, Jln is another disinpho agent, in tom a$$h0l3 beardens meg also jln showed overunity.

Farmhand, am asking you in specific now. What if we place 5 bifilar pancake coils over the cooktop ? All powering their own 1000 watt loads. And we set the input of cooktop to 1000 watts.

Can you please throw some light on this. My @$$ is itching badly to buy a cooktop and make 5 bifi pacakes, but before I invest time and resources in it, I want to be doubly sure of what I am doing.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #118 on: March 17, 2014, 09:02:31 AM »
My response : if Google , "do you think that you can build home using Sunlight ?" I think you would agree :  That's the kind of statements being totally b*it....,right ?? OR
Somebody said something he cound't say openly ?
How about building home using laser to cut wood fast and precise ? More convincing, right ?


That's the same about Don Smith statements. I beleive he was in contact with group having real OU devices, so please consider that he said very indirect tips.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #119 on: March 17, 2014, 09:08:48 AM »
Hi Google - saying that makes me giggle - as I own an SEO Company.


This is from one of Laurent's vids - its all in French but description (below) is in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSqHwMabmmw


Hi all[/font]Sorry but this time i made the video in french.I explain in the video that i testeds the vGEGENE with a lot of different secondary coils, and when i tested the small 12 cm diameter coils that are intended for my small induction plate GEGENE , but on on my big Tristar induction plate, i got powerfull result also.So a pancake coil of a smaller diameter than the induction coil seems to work very well. And wonder why ??So i scratch my head and i made this theory proposal, which is only my affabulation good or not , but i dare to present here to you.Would it be possible , that we get an analogy between airflow That i know quite well ) and the flux of a magnetic field.So the idea would be that ,:First , we put the secondary coil outer diameter, smaller than the outer diameter of the induction coil and the secondary inner diameter larger than the inner diameter of the induction coil,so we get a part of the induction coil (outer and inner ) free to produce a magnetic field which is not submitted to Lenz law , because it suffer no charge at all and is for that reason very free and light to alternate with great speed because no work to do.And in the same time , the flux in the middle of the induction coil, is working hard , battling in the pancake secondary against Lenz and his army, to produce power to animate the load. And the idea is , as per analogy to aerodynamic would it be possible that those "FREE lenz " outboard magnetic field coul help the working one to do the job easier ????=?OK please forgive me , but this is the beginning of a very hard year and we have to try to think more trhan usual , OUT OF THE BOXGood luck at alllaurent

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