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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 128147 times)

Offline GM

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I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« on: September 25, 2005, 10:19:40 PM »
Hi all,   

today I tried to rebuild a device I saw on the website of Donald L. Smith (http://www.altenergy-pro.com/gallery.htm).
I rebiult device No. 4. Extracting useful energy from an plasma generator.
My setup was nearly similar to the setup shown on Don's page
The only difference was that I used a wire with smaller diameter (0.7mm) but more turns (10) for the coil on the top of the plasma ball.   

After switching on the plasma ball the gas into the spere glows, but I could not measure any voltage on the coil. :-(

Then I placed the antipole of the plasmagenerator on the top of the ball. So there was a bright plasma beam going through the middle of the big air coil. But nothing happens. 0 volt in the coil, meassuring was done with an analouge voltmeter (DC and AC mode).

I have to say that I am not fully convinced by Don's devices. He claims that some of his devices put out really high amounts of power, but I could not imagine that one gets 1000 volts from a single coil with max. 30 turns on a magnetic core.
And there is one more curious thing in the explanation text for his device 9. He write: "...Note the coils in pairs, left and right. Each pair produces 1000 Volts at 50 Amps; 8 pairs = 8000 Volts at 400 Amps when output to a Buss Bar..."  But if you connect 8 coil pairs you got 8000 volt @ 50 amp OR 1000 volt @ 400 amp depending on the kind of connection. Is this a simple oversight?    Does somebody know one of Don's devices and can confirm the functionallity?

Bye Markus

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I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« on: September 25, 2005, 10:19:40 PM »

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2005, 05:03:07 AM »
The devices of Don Smith seem to be a fake and he also could never prove, that
they worked as claimed. He is doing the free energy scene no good with his fakes...

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2005, 03:31:35 PM »
I spoke with someone at a conference (Calvin Power Wheel builder) and he's certain Don simply mismeasured and there is no o/u.  It didn't seem to be intentional, just incorrect.

Rich

Offline GM

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2005, 09:48:34 PM »
Oh, it's a great pity to hear this. So I stop now tring to reconstruct Don's experiements.

But nevertheless I show you the pictures from my plasmaball setup.

Bye Markus


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2005, 09:41:23 PM »
If you try to copy so called 'overunity' devices from plans and photographs on the internet you are bound to be dissapointed.  In the case of Bedini , for instance, he conceals much of the details of how his devices work in the patents yet gets upset when sceptics point out that he does not publish reproducible experiments, performance data or allow independant testing of his devces by qualified engineers.  As far as I am concerned Bedini, Smith and others like them are BS merchants.

You should approach the work of Smith and others like him as a source of ideas for your own experiments based on your own ideas and on an understanding of basic principles.  The latter is hard to achieve because there are no experts on free energy on the internet.  There is also a lot of misinformation placed on the internet to throw people off the trail.  All the real experts are working for the US government in classified projects.  You might find my article in this section titled 'Free Energy Comes From Atmosphere, Not Vacuum' a helpful source of fundamentel principles for engineering these devices.  From various clues I have received from Disclosure Project 'insiders' and other sources on the internet this essay vaguely defines the engineering principles of overunity engineering design. 

Of all the Don Smith designs numbers 9-1 and 9-2 look the most interesting.  According to the design principles I have published a design like this should have a verticle axis of rotation for the magnet assemblies since such devices are supposed to beam a signal into the ionosphere.

Check out these two authentic designs for ideas to make your own designs:

Roschin and Godin. Experimental Research of the Magnetic-Gravity Effects
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/godin-roschin.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/roschin.htm

Mikell Device
http://www.fdp.nu/mikelldevice/thedevice.asp

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Offline GM

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 08:22:09 PM »
Freedomfuel,

yes, I try to go my own way of knowledge. See also my post here (formerly I was registerd as "gast" in this forum).

But unfortunattely my professional skill is inadequately today and I have also to purchase some better measuring instruments for further experiments.
In the meantime (I have to earn some money for that) I try to reproduce experiments from other researchers, who mean my ability and tools are appropriate.

And no, I am not dissapointed. If there is only one device which really produce "OU", then all other non functional plans and devices which are published on the net would be complete irrelevant. And I saw some very impressive and convincing things the last weeks and month. Okay, not in reallife but as movie, picture and text. So my "dissapointing-level" is not reached for a long time yet. :-)

Markus

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2005, 02:55:35 PM »
Marcus,

Don tried to tell everyone how his device works...

http://www.nuenergy.org/projects/tc.htm

You must walk before you can run.

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Offline r8rchris

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 05:36:08 PM »
Is Don Smith the inventor of the element rods, suposedly being made in Japan?? The 300 watt 73 and 74 element rod generator?? Anybody familiar with this product ???

Offline pese

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2006, 10:30:15 AM »
i have seen this. years ago.
iam wondering to find no more links
to descrition an
the sale-offers to thos maschine
i seen pics and video jears ago

any links avaiale now?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 09:18:16 AM »
today I tried to rebuild a device I saw on the website of Donald L. Smith (http://www.altenergy-pro.com/gallery.htm).
I rebiult device No. 4. Extracting useful energy from an plasma generator.

His site have been down for some weeks now.
Before it went down, I got a feeling that I should copy the site ... I got it on my computer at home.
One wonders why the site is down? Have Don passed away?

Johnny Feelgood

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2008, 07:38:00 PM »
http://transenergy.tripod.com/index.htm
Is a copy of Don L Smith's homepage. And no, it is not my copy.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 08:23:22 PM »
Marcus,
Don tried to tell everyone how his device works...
http://www.nuenergy.org/projects/tc.htm
You must walk before you can run.
            -Bruce P.
Thanks for that link, Bruce.

If Don Smith exhibited at, and was accepted by the International Tesla Society Symposium in 1996, then he is not a fake.

There is valuable stuff to be found here curtesy of the irrepressible
Patrick:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf

The equipment does not look that difficult to build, but understanding
the physics is not so easy.

Paul-R.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 09:08:27 PM »
http://transenergy.tripod.com/index.htm
Is a copy of Don L Smith's homepage. And no, it is not my copy.
I got a rebuilt copy of the site that is much more accurate than the above.
It could before be found at www.archive.org but today when I tested again.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2009, 04:13:59 PM »
I got a rebuilt copy of the site that is much more accurate than the above.
It could before be found at www.archive.org but today when I tested again.
Its gone. Can you share that site with us?


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 01:39:50 PM »
Its gone. Can you share that site with us?
http://www.28an.com/altenergypro/smith2005.htm
http://www.28an.com/altenergypro/ambientpower.htm  (ads etc ugly)
http://www.28an.com/altenergypro/ (cleaned but no info is lost or changed)
Do not expect them to be there for ever, copy them if of interest.

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