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Author Topic: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.  (Read 201692 times)

kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2008, 07:20:06 AM »
Ruthnium and Platinum are already used in Methonol fuel cells, and it is not quite new. It doesn't uniquely describes the water splitting catalyst.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2008, 06:45:57 PM »
yeah,  that's the spirit kavee... :D  we really shouldn't just wait, sit and see these all past through before us. Well and good if they've one, but the race is still on and it can't stop people like us from tinkering on our own  ;)

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2008, 12:01:00 AM »
My first time on this site.  I have been looking around the internet to see what the future looks like for alternative energy sources.  Must say that this water fueled car from the Genepax company gives me the most hope for water being the fuel of the future.  I wonder if they have the capital + to go into production.  Does anyone know much about Genepax?  How long has it been around?  Is it well funded?  Is there hope for the company?  Thanks! 

Aloha,
Thatjohn 

kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2008, 04:19:22 AM »
We all are newbies on the face of energy quest, for that matter. Genepax has clearly stated they are not a car manufacturing company, and looking into partnering with industry giants whom can utilize their invention. They are looking into licensing model (as far as news goes) so the company can work with multiple manufactures on same or different products without a conflict. They are not having plans for setting up a mass production facility for WES, as far as I can see. Research is not quite over, the gizmo is just a proof of concept toy, only generating 300W of power. Further research should be followed by an independent evaluation to the claim.


My first time on this site.  I have been looking around the internet to see what the future looks like for alternative energy sources.  Must say that this water fueled car from the Genepax company gives me the most hope for water being the fuel of the future.  I wonder if they have the capital + to go into production.  Does anyone know much about Genepax?  How long has it been around?  Is it well funded?  Is there hope for the company?  Thanks! 

Aloha,
Thatjohn 

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2008, 05:16:14 PM »
Excellente!

Of course the car looks like a motorcycle with walls, but it is totally a "proof of concept". 

Hi z.monkey, you remind me of an inventive idea I had for the city.
Being a motorcycle courier for a number of years, as well as having a car and van at times, parking was the luxury of the motorcycle, to park sideways between two other cars.

The motorcycle with walls idea came to me about 5 years ago, and here it is for those inventive. A car which is like the accordian fold up idea, or the fold up chair idea. So it parks as a compact motorcycle, but unfolds to drive away with another passenger on either side of the driver. Just an idea someone might want to work on. I'm not in it for the money, just the fun of creative thinking, and getting seed ideas out there. Of course if I had money, I would develop these ideas myself, but Im far from being an eccentric millionaire, so will just have to settle for the first bit ;D

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 05:48:31 PM »
Ruthnium and Platinum are already used in Methonol fuel cells, and it is not quite new. It doesn't uniquely describes the water splitting catalyst.

The idea came to me after starting reading this thread, of two parts. Not necessarily their way of doing things, but a possible way of doing it.

Part 1 is a battery which runs on water.
Part 2 is the HHO Fuel Cell.

The idea I had flash into my mind (was of possible addition of powders as used in the HHO cells of some, like baking powder or some other cheap electrolyte additive).

The battery with plates in basic physics/chemistry is of two dissimilar metals with an electrolyte between creates a voltage.

The HHO cell would generate HHO from the voltage input.

That's as far as I got, I assumed it fed the petrol engine, and the alternator returned the charge to the original water battery?

If the system does not use the car alternator, then the next part needed is the to convert hydrogen back to electrickery ;) (catweazle ABC - BBC - TV show). Which of course would requre something else. The engine is already purpose built with an alternator for such purposes.

Ideally, in a house hold system, this would be developed to put in water, even sea water, to produce, electricity, gas and drinking water. Providing many parts as the requirements for modern living. =D And some salt for seasoning your food. ;)

Though it wouldnt go astray to have pure drinking water produced in the car, say in a cup in the drink holder?

Albert Johnson

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2008, 04:11:44 PM »
English site is online:

http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2008, 06:09:15 PM »
I read through their english site. It really doesn't explain the system. (at least, to my satisfaction)
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 06:43:16 PM by ResinRat2 »

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2008, 08:51:19 PM »
For a cheap Electrolisys / Project Submission:
The Gearturbine, power by barr, with retrodynamic dextrogiro vs levogiro effect, at non parasitic looses system, and over-unit engine. details:

www.geocities.com/gearturbine

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2008, 10:16:30 PM »
Genepax has now an english FAQ (frequently asked questions) online.
It says:


    * Can we invest in Genepax (including private investment)?

    * We are not seeking investors for our company nor do we have any plans to be listed. Our objective is to promote technological development of the WES; we are not operating for investment or speculative purposes.

    * We would like to make a joint development proposal. Can you provide more details about your company?

    * Thank you for your consideration. We will examine your proposal carefully. Please submit your application by filling out the form on the Contact page of our website.
      Please include your questions, company name, and contact person's name, and we will answer the questions as best as we can.

    * Do you plan to be listed?

    * We have no plans to be listed.

    * Is it possible to exchange information with Genepax?

    * Please contact us via our website only.


Media coverage

    * Can I obtain access to report about Genepax?

    * Members of the media can apply to obtain access via our contact person. We do not accept applications from individuals. PR Manager: Jun Onishi


WES-equipped electric vehicle

    * What is the WES-equipped electric vehicle?

      We equipped a commercially available electric vehicle with a WES to generate power to recharge the battery.

    * How many hours can the car be driven on one liter?

    * We have no data concerning continuous driving. We would need the cooperation of a car manufacturer to obtain official data.

    * We saw a news report that the car could travel for one hour on one liter of water. Is this true?

    * The data reported on the news is unofficial.

    * What is the power generation capacity and output?

    * The power supply equipment was produced in accordance with the base car. We are not publishing capacity and output information to avoid misunderstandings.


Water energy system (WES)

    * What is your consumption of water?

    * approximately 7 hours on 2 liters of water.

    * How much is WES?

    * At this point no prices are listed.

    * Could you send me a product brochure?

    * We have not produced a brochure, but you may download PDF documents from our website.

    * Is it possible to obtain more detailed information than the materials published on your website?

    * The information published on our website is all we are able to disclose.

    * Can I ask a technical question?

    * We do not accept telephone inquiries.
      Please make your inquiries via our website, and we will answer your questions as best as we can.

    * When do you plan to sell the WES? I would like to purchase a sample (individual customer).

    * We have no plan to sell the WES directly to general consumers. We are currently developing applications with partner companies and plan to commercialize them in the near future.

    * Can we act as a sales agent?

    * We have no plans to directly sell WES-equipped products. We are currently developing applications with partner companies and plan to commercialize them in the near future.

    * Can I see an actual system/car and take it for a test ride?

    * We arrange demonstrations and presentations of the system for the media and development-related partner companies that have made official applications only.


Technical matters

    * Could you explain your technology more clearly?

    * Please refer article in Nikkei (major business article network in Japan)
      NikkeiBP

    * Have you patented your technology?

    * Our technology is in patent pending phase.

    * How do you intend to develop this technology in the future?

    * We intend to develop smaller, stabler, and higher powered stacks for practical use.

    * Can tap water be used as the water supply?

    * Basically, any water can be used for power generation. We use pure water, however, to prevent rusting and clogging of mechanical parts.
      It is easy to produce pure water from tap water with water purifiers, such as reverse osmosis membranes.

    * How durable is the system?

    * The membranes are no less durable than those of hydrogen fuel cells. Although testing of the electrodes is not yet complete, it is likely that they are as durable as the membranes.
      For reference, the stacks of an installation-type hydrogen fuel cell system for domestic use are believed to be operable for approximately 40,000 hours.


Miscellaneous

    * Do you have any plans to sell the system overseas?

    * We are currently arranging the schedule for a press release event targeted mainly at the foreign press in Tokyo. The details will be announced on our website.

    * May I visit your office?

    * We only accept visits to our company by the media and development-related partner companies after they have made an official application.

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Here are 2 more pics, which show the concept:



tulook

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2008, 04:37:51 AM »
Leave it to the Japanese to thumb their noses at the NWO!

Yes, and also the Korean's with their (WO/2008/016238) ARTIFICIAL ATMOSPHERE DIFFERENCE INDUCTION TYPE WIND POWER GENERATOR (http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008016238) and their 'Magnet-amplifying engine' (300hp drive engine) was developed, shocking the world, or the Chinese "5 KW Electricity Generator is better and closer to production than almost any other Over Unity Device published on the various Patent Offices or on the Internet

You know, this is a lot of the stuff they said didn't work, that we were wasting our time,
that some were threatend or allegedly killed to suppress. What Will the NWO do now?

Albert Johnson

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2008, 03:44:54 PM »
What Will the NWO do now?


As long as there are not enough people aware of such technologies (and I'm afraid there are still a lot of them and these people still believe everything what is shown on TV) the NWO just will go on with the suppression and the killings (on small scale with inventors and on big scale with whole countries):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0JvpW5q0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ecLwVgvvTvU

And if China, Japan, Korea or no matter which country "dares" to solve the energy problem with extraordinary technology (= free energy)......oops! there goes another earthquake.
Sad but true...

The key is that the public must get informed!!!
But it's kind of hard to compete with the NWO mainstream media.
 

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2008, 11:39:39 PM »
. What Will the NWO do now?

sorry for being ignorant; but what is NWO?

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2008, 03:06:54 AM »
New World Order I Believe

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2008, 04:21:28 AM »
Okay, goal must be to be able to build such a Genepax water converter,
which puts out 300 Watts contineously from water for
around 300 US$.
With cheaper catalysators this should be possible !

Then mass produce these converters and free the world from the grid.

Surely such a unit should work at least for 5 years contineously.

Their claimed 40.000 hours would indicate 4.5 years.

But you don?t need the power 24 hours per day, so it would last probably much longer...