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Author Topic: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.  (Read 101175 times)

Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2008, 05:29:21 AM »
Food for Thought:

Sir Issac Newton's equations (velocity, gravity, force etc.) were the only thing NASA used to send humans to moon and bring them back in needle point accuracy on path calculation. 

But Einstein proved Newton's gravity is seriously flawed. And yes it is, according to the more modern quantum and string theories.

If we have to bend "Laws of Thermo Dynamics" or something else, even though it appears to answer majority of questions and build our societies for centuries, we should not be afraid of doing so.

Observation is the most important. If existing theories cannot prove an exotic observation, then finding theories which explains observations is the science. However, even an established theory is bent for catering later observations, original theory can remain for most common objectives which it proved to be successful throughout. Even though Einstein proved Newton's Laws of Gravity is seriously flawed, NASA didn't use Einstein's theory, but Newton's, which did the job perfectly. But it does not say Newton was right and Einstein was wrong.


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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2008, 06:02:15 PM »
Food for Thought:

Sir Issac Newton's equations (velocity, gravity, force etc.) were the only thing NASA used to send humans to moon and bring them back in needle point accuracy on path calculation. 

(small detail between braquets
they never went to the moon!!!
humans can not go past the Van Allen's field).



Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2008, 03:58:09 AM »
Firstly, whether moon landing is fake or not is not relevant to this thread.

Secondly, as a person who is deeply involved with Modern Physics (Relativity and Quantum Mechanics), I don't waste my time on conspiracy theories, rather have other many dozens of theories to exploit.   :)

Thirdly, and lastly, since moon landing was discussed, Leaner acceleration can indeed send a man to moon, with Newtonian physics, which is also in harmony with Special and General relativity. Even if Humans did not land there, machinery was sent both by Americans and Russians, thus is all I need to prove the fact in my earlier comment on Newtonian Gravitational theories.



Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2008, 04:28:39 AM »
Believe me, if we efficiently break water, it will surely take us to the moon an beyond.

(The phrase I used here is not necessarily referring to galactic travel, but to mention a new understanding and exploitation possibilities in many fields)

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2008, 04:28:39 AM »
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Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2008, 07:48:44 AM »
These are aperently from a DVD available for purchase at http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ and you can see sample two clips right on top of the site.

Thanks...



I posted Stan Meyers houseMeetings here : http://site-city.net/stan_meyer/
I don't think they are on youtube because they (4 files) are 1180 MB large.. He he.. I just found them by accident downloading torrents.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2008, 11:27:47 AM »
This is very closely matches with the patent drawings, at least from the outside.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2008, 11:27:47 AM »
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Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2008, 12:07:22 PM »
How on earth I miss this news posting here  :-\


Another company from Japan has produced a water powered vehicle

This is completely different to genepax in terms of technology. According to the company, a hydrogen tank is needed, and Hydrogen is injected into the piston and water is delivered once it is ignited. Hydrogen combustion is used merely to produce steam from water, and the piston's power stroke is essentially driven by water steam.

http://www.haw-system.jp/English/indexE.html

Two videos in the site explains the technology.


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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2008, 10:31:50 AM »
Can we run our car with water and gas?   
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?


Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2008, 10:45:58 AM »
at the time of this writing, you may not be able to run you car exclusively on water, since no technology is commercially available yet. But if you wish to extend your gas millage (amount of distance you can travel with a gallon of petrol), there are many systems out there, both commercially and do-it-yourself type.

If you are an average tetchy, assembling such system (often called hydrogen boosters, HHO cells, Water Fuel Cells etc.) is quite straightforward with relatively easily find materials. As a policy I don't point you in directions, but you can find the information on internet and even in overunity forum quite easily.

Water disassociation is already proven with great efficiencies, but still it has to be matured a little more to run an internal combustion engine at highway speeds. But stay up, it is happening and you will have the option of switching into a car which runs on water on its entirety in next few years.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2008, 10:45:58 AM »
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Offline kavee

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2008, 12:17:48 PM »
Sorry to disappoint you all, but we have evidence that the demonstrated car was not really running on the WES (the cell). The system was outputting only 300Ws of power (according to the internal communication) and connected to charge the batteries of the electric vehicle. So at the time of capturing Reuters video the vehicle is indeed running on batteries, which is not a proof of concept for the WES cell.

But their Cell seems to be producing electricity as they claimed. 300W with the displayed system. So any load under this rating can be run using the cell. In theory they could stack up more of such cells to drive the small car they have shown (electric motor is well over 3kW).

Independent verification of the cell is yet to be made, and the company is so strict on giving out information. Only thing is to wait and see some fellow researches reverse engineer the patent information and prove or disprove the claim.

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Re:Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2008, 07:48:44 AM »
hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us i really recommend it to everybody, it's a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look.


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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2008, 10:48:27 PM »
Anything that's not proven are scam?  :)

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Re:Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2008, 11:06:45 PM »
hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us i really recommend it to everybody, it's a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look.


I am also an affiliate in marketing this ebook. If somebody buy through my link, I made some bucks. Not really interested on whether it works or not  :)


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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2008, 03:37:36 AM »
It would be impossible to drive directly off the 300 watt WES.. I believe the WES charges the batteries and then they drive the car.. I believe the motor would have to be around 45hp minimum (33k watts).

Jason
 
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepax
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Genepax demonstrated the car in the Japanese city of Osaka on 12 June 2008. Genepax Claims that one liter (2.1 pints) of any kind of water?rain, river or sea (even tea, stated the press release)?is all that is needed to run the engine for about an hour at a speed of 80 km/h (50 mph). However, their claims that a 300 watt (0.4 horsepower) engine could drive the car (the weight of which has not been specified) at this speed and for this duration despite wind resistance / Automobile drag coefficients and other energy-draining forces warrants further investigation.

The demonstration vehicle was a Takeoka Reva[7], a small electric car weighing between 740 and 960 kg whose manufacturer claims a range of 85 km running on its standard set of batteries, which take 8 hours to charge off the mains at 100 V on a 15 A circuit.

Should Genepax validate their claims, no infrastructure would be required to recharge the car's batteries, which is not the case for electric cars. The vehicle will supposedly continue to run for as long "as you have water to top up with from time to time." [8]. As the residual product of the engine is also water, this would in principle lead to the development of a perpetual motion engine, in which the exhaust product, water, could be fed directly back into the system as fuel.

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The Wiki is a bit naive,
when they claim that the device powers directly the electric car motor.

Of course they will have some buffer batteries between the water generator and the electric motor.

But when the car is not driven, e.g. during work or during night time,
it has enough time to recharge the batteries in the car via its constant 300 Watts output.

This device is really the best device since long time, when it really does not use up any electrodes
material but only water...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2008, 03:37:36 AM »

 

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