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hartiberlin

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Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« on: June 12, 2008, 01:39:14 AM »
Hi,
I just saw a new defense system on youtube,
that seems to use some kind of secret force field:
Trophy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TctJhFYTHo

Is this just a radar tracking system that fires a laser at the incoming rocket
or do they really generate a secret and new technology force-field ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 11:48:50 AM »
Hi All
It would be nice to know how it works!
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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 01:22:30 PM »
I doubt there's anything particularily novel about this. It's indeed just radar tracking and automatic weapon shooting down the incoming projectile. They've been using similar system in battleships to counter missiles for years already. I think it's more like a large shotgun shell being fired at high scatter, rather than laser.

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 05:14:03 PM »
Well,
but they said, it is like a spherical protection, so also
like half a marble sphere to ALL sides !
Also it is said, that the incoming missile does not explode, but just
bangs against this invisible shield somehow and breaks apart,
so the infantery soldiers around it are not too much in danger...
Hmm...
So is this trophy force field just only some vapour ware expression ??

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 07:05:50 PM »
That force bubble thing is just fox news media hype.
quick googling...
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002361.html
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=589

It would be cool but we're not there yet :P
To me they do seem to explode on impact and I for one wouldn't like to be around when that happens, but nevertheless, it's far better than getting direct hit. You can place several of them around the vehicle so you'll be protected from all directions.

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 10:28:18 PM »

For some reason there has been a change of plans by the powers that be regarding the release of this technology at this time.

Maybe the technology has possible alternate energy applications.

As the very presence of troops in Iraq suggests, protecting US citizenry is somewhere down on their list of priorities from carrying out their own hidden agenda.

If this technology ever does hit the field, it won't be too long before they release the technology penetrate the shield...it wouldn't surprise me to hear that they watch the wars they create on video as a form of entertainment.

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2008, 02:33:49 PM »
What I understood from several media is that the "missile shield" (overstatement alert)
is still the same concept of a high resolution radar coupled to various weapons systems,
most common designs use anti-missile missiles or laser, that simply destroy the
incoming missile when it enters the detection zone.
Many media seem to use fantasy animations that show a sort of bubble over an area
and when the incoming missile "hits" the "bubble" it is shown to "break into pieces".
This, as far as I know, is simply an abstract and oversimplified idealised version
of what they have in mind. It is not the case that the actual system as they are still testing it
really uses a force-field bubble onto which the incoming missile breaks apart.

Similarly, I seem to recall Israel recently presenting an idea for what they referred to as
"a steel dome" over Jerusalem; this idea was their version of an anti-missile shield to keep
the Hamaz homemade stovepipe rockets out, and if I recall correctly was based on the
same idea of a very efficient radar station coupled to several anti-air guns that would automatically
shoot the incoming missiles. They also used a similar abstract animation showing the
rockets slamming into something that looked like a force field bubble, but nobody ever
suggsted it was anything but a sophisticated "Goal keeper" anti-missile system (like the type
that has been used on western naval vessels for a couple of decades already to defend the
ships against missiles automatically).

And if you recall Tesla's ideas for his "death ray" defense towers, that was also compared to
a physical shield as well as a bubble-shaped "force field" that would destroy anything that tried
to fly through the "shield" zone.
But if you study the actual "death ray" tower design concept (that he even submitted to the US
govt before they entered the second world war), you will see it is in actuality a tower fitted with
a large number of small electrokinetic "cannons" spread out over the spherical top in order to
give all-round coverage, and that shoot "beams" of highly charged mercury droplets at very high
speed. In other words: tiny charged bullets are shot from the tower.

It seems that the idea of a force-field shield "bubble" is pulled out of the hat every time such
an anti-missile or anti-ballistic system gains popularity, but in actuality it has never been
a real force-field shield, and all versions always were beefed up and/or automated anti-aircraft
weapons instead.
Which is a pity.

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 04:37:32 AM »
Well,
if the Israelis would finally give the Palestinia people their own state,
and really make peace with their Arabs neighbours and not only pretending to do it..
they would not need all the f*cking military junk and
spend all the money, that Germany has given them after the 2nd world war
for military expenses...
Germany still pays millions of tax money still today to Israel...what a shame..

but now I am coming again to politics and I should better stop,
otherwise I get upset again at our stupid German politicians...

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 04:57:15 AM »
P.S: Well,
have a look at the wall that Israel has built.

I had to live almost 30 years with such a f*cking wall in Berlin , which seperated our east German
families with the West-German families in the cold war time from
1961 when I was born  to 1989.
Almost 30 years living on an Island surrounded by a Wall like in a prison...

Now compare this:

(http://electronicintifada.net/artman2/uploads/1/relativewalls483.jpg)


Only "dictator" states are building such walls...

For more info you can study:

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1775.shtml

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 05:08:33 AM »

Politicians are not stupid...they are well aware of what they are doing people - and are paid handsomely by the real powers that be to do it.

Regards...


hartiberlin

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2008, 05:20:55 AM »
Maybe we should call the politicians just "Marionettes"..
Oh well, since the Euro was put on us without asking us,
all goods are now almost twice the price, but salaries were
kept the same, so one has the feeling that one is
only working for the tax office ...

And gasoline in Germany is 1 Liter already
1.50 Eu,
that means 1 Gallon of gasoline costs
over here at the current 1 EUR = 1.53430 USD  exchage rate already
8.71USD  !!!

Can you image how expensive it is to make a family trip at the weekend
with your car ?

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2008, 05:44:46 AM »
I begin to think the solution is not to find the best "gaz saver" but just stop using gaz and all that crap and convert our car with electricity!

Here in canada the 1 liter is 1.40$, less then germany but that still give something around 6$ the gallon!

GO EV!!

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Trophy force field anti-missile defense ?
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2008, 01:14:24 PM »

Not only gas.

Stop we as a group must stop reacting to or participating in every distraction they place before you.

That includes television and all forms of corporate news and violence related media sources.

Only when we stop playing along, will the game ever come to an end.

Regards...