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Author Topic: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.  (Read 41049 times)

Offline TMGhost

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2008, 09:54:07 PM »
Ok.. Time for a restart ! >:(

I Hate Timer 555 ! When i test it with the scope it does some pulses, but not that one i want !

New setup.

I Will build this pulls engine around a Atmel AVR Mega 88 chip, and use that to drive a 4/16 chip.
the 4/16 chip will drive 16 resistors, to create 16 volt steps.

I have a test setup on my test plate, IL post it soon. I Using Bascom AVR compiler, i can post the code i some one what's it..

Regads Christer / Sweden


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Offline TMGhost

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2008, 10:15:04 PM »
When looking At Meyers drawings, i find a step-up transformer.

is this right ? :

if i have 100 rounds on the primary coil and 100 Round on the secondary coil i have a 1 to 1 Transformer ?

And if i have 100 turn on the primary coil and 200 turn on the second coil do i have a step-up transformer that double the volt ?

Meyer used 100 Turn on the Primary coil and 500 turn At the secondary, but some sat he used 12v and some that hi used 26v... that quite a difference...

in hes Primary setup he used 110v  ( a strange volt, but iv heard that some 'older' contry use that  ;D ) then he went down to 12v, but used a Step-up transformer to go to 130v (26*5 = 130v)
so... I think he was using 26v in hes test,and transformed it up to hes usual volts 110.. right ????

And yes, it not possible to use my new fine transistor, on 220v without a heatsink...


Some strange info..  I was speaking of 260v before, that was my capacitor that make the over voltage, isn't that we are looking for in the pipes...  when i remove the capacitor i have 220 v  not 320v...


Offline Linearfashion

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2008, 11:21:47 PM »
i've recently strted playing with electrolosis. I'm sending 12v pulsed via 555 timer switching power transistor. First think I noticed is the bubbles seem to form mostly on the negative side. I then decided to use a stainless steel flat bottom bowl. I used a S.S. cotter pin as the anode, just for ease of controlability i.e. position and angle. The most apparent observation is that the bubbles formed on the bottom more than anywhere else, regardless of how close i put the pin to the side. Secondly if I placed a strong magnet under the container the bubbles would swirl, counter clockwise or clockwise depending on which pole I (aimed) the pin at. Food for thought!

Offline HeairBear

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2008, 02:41:31 AM »
When looking At Meyers drawings, i find a step-up transformer.

is this right ? :
Yes, which drawing?

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if i have 100 rounds on the primary coil and 100 Round on the secondary coil i have a 1 to 1 Transformer ?
Yes

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And if i have 100 turn on the primary coil and 200 turn on the second coil do i have a step-up transformer that double the volt ?
Yes, and the current will be cut in half also.

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Meyer used 100 Turn on the Primary coil and 500 turn At the secondary, but some sat he used 12v and some that hi used 26v... that quite a difference...

in hes Primary setup he used 110v  ( a strange volt, but iv heard that some 'older' contry use that  ;D ) then he went down to 12v, but used a Step-up transformer to go to 130v (26*5 = 130v)
so... I think he was using 26v in hes test,and transformed it up to hes usual volts 110.. right ????
He did it many different ways. Which one are you referring to? In the USA we use 110V and 220V AC for just about everything residential. The transformer in the pictures I posted is a variable transformer. 0 - 110V AC. Stan had shown a few demonstrations with 5V and 2A for the input power.


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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2008, 08:58:43 AM »
Is coil working as a transformer ? It is like 2 inductors are connected in series with cell (as capacitor) in middle.
It some kind .. hmm i dunno, but i can say for sure that the energy is not fully consumed by cell, part of it is going to coil 2.

Also .. u may want to know that the coil what is winded as it is is far not linear and the ratio is also not 100 % accurate.

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
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Offline TMGhost

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2008, 12:28:47 PM »
HeairBear: When he used 5v do you know if i used a step-up transformer then ?

When i connect a rectifying diode to my 220v AC 50 Hz, I've got 220v DC 100 Hz. If i then connected a capacitor 0.10uF 1200 volt,  I've got 318v DC

if i double the freq. to 200Hz do i got more volt then ?

Regards Christer / Sweden

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2008, 03:34:44 PM »
Increasing the frequency does not increase voltage. Yes, there is always a transformer or alternator to step-up the voltage. The chokes act somewhat differently than the transformer but are linked to the entire secondary circuit. Since Stan has many different models, please specify which model you are referring to. As you can see in the previous posts, Stan's Rotary Generator did not use any special electronics, such as, a PWM, Chokes, or anything other than a motor,alternator, rectifier, variable transformer, and some diodes.


Sorry, I have to run....

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
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Offline TMGhost

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2008, 07:46:12 PM »
OK... Thanks !! you saved some testing times...
Then i only have one more question... (For now.lol)

When i read Myers notes, a lot of the are about the freq, is dependent about the gap betwen the pipes, and (i think) the Length and width of the pipe...

Do you know how to calculate the pulsing freq ?

And a lot of people talking about pullsing, but this must be wrong, when i look at the notes from Meyer, he used a 10 point step up voltage then, a small pause and then a new set of 10 step up square pulses, and those pulses newer got to zero volt..


Regards Christer / Sweden


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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2008, 08:38:58 PM »
I used a S.S. cotter pin as the anode, just for ease of controlability i.e. position and angle. The most apparent observation is that the bubbles formed on the bottom more than anywhere else, regardless of how close i put the pin to the side.

LinearFashion,

This is likely due to the field created and the reaction of voltage leakage in any setup. The voltage wants to leave the "sharp" area of the electrode first. This is my understanding anyway.

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2009, 10:23:08 AM »
Urgent

The PWM circuit can produce the HHO gas. In the PWM circuit, there have integrator circuit. May anyone or who knows can tell me the purpose of integrator in this circuit.

thanks

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2009, 03:49:01 PM »
Believe it or not, the device that is shown in a few videos of Stan's Rotary Pulse Generator (with alternator and tubes) does not have any PWM built into the device. The black box is simply just a variable transformer and a couple of meters, nothing more. The other device with the adjustable gap spacing was the one with the PWM and chokes inside the black box. I have never seen a video of it working but I assume it worked as well as the rotary device. Frequency may still play a role in the way the devices work but I think there is an underlying fundamental that most people are ignoring. Stan kept saying "Voltage Potential" without any current and is not resistive in nature. What circuits have this ability? The only circuit I have seen to date that does this is the Avramenko plug.


@HeairBear
He had the alternator in several videos and even in the back of the dune buggy so there is something significant there. I am sad to see every one who starts on this project thinks a couple of 555's and "HHO" pours out!
The trouble is most people want to build a circuit or copy one without knowing what is going on first.
I admit that I do not know either but don't believe a lot of the people who theorize either.

I guess Meyers first thoughts ( after praying of course) were how can I get water to break up into hydrogen and oxygen other than the convensional electrolysis? At this point he does not know anything about overunity of the processs. He new directly subjecting water to electric current would not be the approach but subjecting the water to high voltage would be the key. how do you go about what I call electrodeless electrolysis?
High voltage can penetrate water molecule when there is no electron flow.
Another element that can penetrate water is magnetism
and lastly, another thing that can penetrate water is light.

I believe Meyer employed all 3 in the end.


Offline blavatsky

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Re: Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.
« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2014, 11:57:54 PM »
Can someone please send me a circuit diagram for a working Hydrogen Generator.
What frequency is best for splitting/fracturing water ?

Has anyone seen the new stuff coming from Aquatune  www.aquatune.com

What about Tesla and Toyota making electric cars with Hydrogen Fuel Cells ?

Cheers

Richard


 

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