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Author Topic: How to make bedini motor overunity ???  (Read 39895 times)

Offline DMMPOWER

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008, 10:32:19 AM »
Hi here is a super electromagnet pulse coil design . 

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 11:33:10 AM »
Hello all,

@capacitor 70

In the first moment I saw the picture of your Bedini motor replication I thought Im looking at a TV deflection coil!! - the inner coil.

The outer coil is wound over 2 cores.....

Sorry for jumping into here.

Otto


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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 11:54:10 AM »
Hi here is a super electromagnet pulse coil design . 

@DMMPOWER

Could you share some more practical pieces of advice on the core type, core shape and how the permanent magnet is embedded into the core?  (is the magnet shorter than the core like you showed, how airgap is involved between core and magnet, etc.) 
Perhaps a picture upload?  Here in the thread you can upload smaller than 50kB files but at this link you can upload up to 5MB:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=upload  with files type like: zip, rar, doc, jpg, gif, png, avi, mov, mpg, mpeg, qt, swf, pdf, odt, rm, ra

Thanks,

Gyula

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 07:09:03 PM »
Hello all,

@capacitor 70

In the first moment I saw the picture of your Bedini motor replication I thought Im looking at a TV deflection coil!! - the inner coil.

The outer coil is wound over 2 cores.....

Sorry for jumping into here.

Otto

I have seen TV yoke coils, I thing these coils are useful for making "cole window motor".

The rotor is taken from VCR motor it is already having three windings on it, These windings are not used at all.
Two relay coils are used in this. one coil acts as pulse pick up coil and another as drive.
See video on youtube search for "Capacitor70"
I tried using 5 coils as drive and one coil as pulse pick up, it doesent make any change in input or output.

Another coil I made it gives me very high rpm vibrating my work bench at 200mAmps and it is giving 50% energy as back emf.

With the same coil but rotor is changed to little more weight its back emf is reduced to 5% also speed.

My observation
1. Use less weight for rotor.
2. Use stronger magnets.
3. More number of magnets.
4. Proper coil design also important.
5. Multiple coils doesnt make big differance.
6. If you put magnet in revese direction on coils so that it repail the rotor. When you start it, It makes vibrating motor.
7. Alternating N - S - N - S - N magnet placement does not make any big differance only speed reduction is observed.


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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2008, 11:53:04 PM »

My observation
1. Use less weight for rotor.
2. Use stronger magnets.
3. More number of magnets.
4. Proper coil design also important.
5. Multiple coils doesnt make big differance.
6. If you put magnet in revese direction on coils so that it repail the rotor. When you start it, It makes vibrating motor.
7. Alternating N - S - N - S - N magnet placement does not make any big differance only speed reduction is observed.

Thats funny Capacitor70, I found the following results when building Bedinis devices:

1. More weight on the rotor the better, (within reason) as long as it is well balanced.
2. Use weaker magnets for faster switching, stronger magnets such as neos can only work in certain configurations
3. More magnets, but keep the correct spacing
4. Proper coil design IS important, Your right about that.
5. Multiple coils makes a BIG difference as does multiple windings when wired correctly, both to speed and charging of the back end.
6.?
7. In one of my configurations a nsnsnsns rotor gave an increase in speed over the nnnn rotor. This was with neos and air cores.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2008, 11:53:04 PM »
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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2010, 07:33:48 AM »
ok... did anyone make COP more that one? which part or hint to make it overunity? scalar potential or radiant energy. i tested notice radiant spike still not really practical and charging battery can't storage much if i calculate in time.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2010, 06:10:42 PM »
Dear Ren,

i saw you device from your youtube, may i know what is your COP of your bedini device? i couldn't get COP more than one. very upset... even i get the charge from my charging battery but it won't store the energy when i load that battery.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2010, 06:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Magnethos link=topic=4624.msg95470#msg95470 =1210439987
Hi to everyone. I have made a video where you can see how to obtain an overunity from a Bedini Motor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7aX6OK5hw

Why did you remove the video?

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2010, 09:04:42 AM »
I tried various versions of the BSG (Bedini School Girl) Motor and despite copying Bedini's instructions/schematics to the letter, I was never able to get over-unity or high efficiency. That kind of put me off Bedini's work because I remember him stating on his web site (I paraphrase) that if you "Follow the instructions without changing anything you will get the same results" (same results as the School Girl experiment). However it did start me off on my journey and was fun to do.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »
Here is a hint:

Use supercaps instead of batteries as they capture the HV spikes and store and release them as usable power.  Efficiency goes way up then.

I have powered my Bedini motor from my earth battery. (check out my Youtube vids)

Bill

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Offline resonanceman

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2010, 04:57:26 AM »
Thats funny Capacitor70, I found the following results when building Bedinis devices:

1. More weight on the rotor the better, (within reason) as long as it is well balanced.
2. Use weaker magnets for faster switching, stronger magnets such as neos can only work in certain configurations
3. More magnets, but keep the correct spacing
4. Proper coil design IS important, Your right about that.
5. Multiple coils makes a BIG difference as does multiple windings when wired correctly, both to speed and charging of the back end.
6.?
7. In one of my configurations a nsnsnsns rotor gave an increase in speed over the nnnn rotor. This was with neos and air cores.


I am working on a pulse motor design  that starts with a bedini  type circuit........I have been thinking  of  putting  the magnets on my rotor NSNS ...... I read somewhere that  putting small S  magnets on a rotor of N magnets will help clear out the charge..... WHat I think that means ..... I am thinking that the capacitance  of the coil  may be holding  a charge  between pulses......this  charge would tend to  make the trigger  circuit less sensitive.  ( I am guessing that this capcitance charging  thing may  be why low power magnets seem to work better than Neos.)


An  idea I want to try is to  use a NSNS rotor  then use  a bridge or  diodes to rectify the signal........then  feed it to a pnp bedini  circuit ...and send the other half to a npn  bedini circuit
If the capacitance  of the coil  is maintaining a charge  between pulses...... switching to  this  dual  circuit set up should  use this  voltage to good advantage.

I also plan to move to multiple coils....... I expect  that  they  will soon  start driving the motor to fast........ a NSNS rotor  could  be  easily  used  as a generator  to keep  the speed in check.




A question for anyone here...... \
Most  bedinis  I have seen are at least 12V
Is 12V  a kind of minimum voltage?
I  would like to get one running  a 6 V because of other experiments I want to do later.


gary



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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2010, 08:05:59 AM »
Gary:

I have run my Bedini motor from my earth battery, which outputs about 2 volts.  (See my video)  I have Jonnydavro to thank for this circuit.  (See his videos)  You do not need 12 volts at all. (I used a 3055 regular tansistor for this.)

I hope this helps.

Bill


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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2010, 12:44:52 PM »
If you people want to get a Bedini to work, then this is the place
to get the SSG to run overunity:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_Monopole3/messages
They know their stuff.

Offline mscoffman

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2010, 06:37:21 PM »
If you people want to get a Bedini to work, then this is the place
to get the SSG to run overunity:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_Monopole3/messages
They know their stuff.


I am a member of the above yahoo group. They expect their people
to build a precise replica of the Bedini circuit. They don't like to deal
with anything other then that. It's very scientific in that they can
control the environment of the machine but they don't like to discuss
either innovation or controversy.

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My belief is that the Bedini machine functions on two levels
simultaneously, the one designed for and one that just happens.
Static electricity (which *they* call "radiant energy") is the
other half of the equation, weak CF cold fusion aligned by
static electricity occurs in the acid/lead storage battery and
is the voltage downconverter. It's very easy to lose the Static
electric part during a motor redesign. Use neo magnets and
move the coil away from the wheel and the coils can no longer
collect static electricity properly.

Bedini almost never uses capacitors, which would help the
stability of his circuit, because capacitors have a maximum
working voltage and the operating static conditions will
exceed that voltage.

Think anything you want, but what you are thinking won't
match all the evidence present.

:S:MarkSCoffman


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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2010, 10:45:41 PM »
Gary:

I have run my Bedini motor from my earth battery, which outputs about 2 volts.  (See my video)  I have Jonnydavro to thank for this circuit.  (See his videos)  You do not need 12 volts at all. (I used a 3055 regular tansistor for this.)

I hope this helps.

Bill

Bill

Thanks that does help alot.

I am clearly missing  something here...... I have not  got mine to run yet...... It is probably something really basic..... to simple  for me to notice

I have another question...... On a JT  the schematic  always shows  the dots  marking  start of the windings.......... I do not  remember seeing them on any  bedini  schematics ....... can you check your bedini  and  see where the marks  should be?.


gary

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