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Author Topic: How to make bedini motor overunity ???  (Read 44234 times)

Offline capacitor70

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How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« on: May 03, 2008, 06:09:12 PM »
I made bedini motor replication but it does not give me overunity

Input : 250mA @ 11.65V
Output : 120mAmps @ 12.01V

How to make overunity???

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Offline Feynman

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 06:59:22 PM »
pese and plengo both know alot about Bedini motors. I would ask one of them.


Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 07:04:42 PM »
Here is an interesting video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHh5AqQ4_xw&feature=related

Watch second half.  This guy worked on it for a long time, and is a obviously a strong free energy believer, and he says he got one up to 53% efficiency and that is all.

Offline Ren

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2008, 11:25:19 PM »
53% efficiency? Thats pretty low for someone who has been working on it for a "long time." My first replication made from scraps had more efficiency than that.

@Cap 70. For starters, you dont have a Bedini replication there, its a simple pulse motor nothing more. It should have a trigger and power coil, preferably wound on the same form, but they can be separate. Neos arent spec, neither is the relay (although you may get some interesting results with it when configured correctly). And is there a battery charging on the back end? Apples and Oranges.....
Bedinis simplified school girl circuit ISNT an overunity device, the circuit will always have losses. You cant look for overunity in the circuit alone.

If you want to study the device more, then you need to build it to spec for starters, and do some load tests and study the effects it has on the charging battery. If you want so called "overunity" you will have to scale things up dramatically.


Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 12:25:54 AM »
If you want so called "overunity" you will have to scale things up dramatically.

Why would a larger device produce overunity, where a smaller device would not?

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 12:25:54 AM »
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Offline Ren

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 12:33:33 AM »


Why would a larger device produce overunity, where a smaller device would not?
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Because it will produce more mechanical power.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 01:11:41 AM »

Because it will produce more mechanical power.

But wouldn't it also require more energy to run?  For example, in a car, technology being equal, a larger engine produces more power but also consumes more fuel.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 01:11:41 AM »
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Offline Ren

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 02:10:04 AM »
 :D Yes thats true. But you have to understand that when it is done correctly more on the front end means more on the back end. So you will need a larger batteries etc but the effect is still the same. Perhaps you are forgetting that there is a battery charging on the back end, whereas a conventional engine whether electric or ICE doesnt have a form of recovery for the energy spent to achieve rotational torque

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2008, 02:38:27 PM »
I tried bifilar wound coil it doesent make any differance. Putting diode in pulse pick up coil to dischrge the
back emf it increases efficieny by 5%. Mechanical output, RPM I am getting with bifilar coile is much high nearly 8000 to 10000 RPM @ 300mAmps 12V.

I have not tried to take output from this mechanical power, it may take me near unity.

Another machine today I build with relay it gives me 8 to 13Amps output @ 12V and input is 0.02Amps @ 12V. This is meter fault, meter does not responce properlay for high voltage spikes

Machine design
1. Relay NC connection is giving supply to relay. When Relay becomes on as soon as it disconnects its own
supply so it becomes off and agin the cycle is repetated this way it starts oscillation.
2. Simillar to bedini design connect battery with diode to take back emf to charge it.
3. Tried with replacing meters, Both meter shows same result some times DMM hangs. I dont have Analog Ammeter.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 02:59:53 AM »
Can you post the schematic you are using? 

Thanks

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 06:02:19 AM »
Here the  ???overunity ??? relay generator.

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 06:25:25 AM »
Do you people have any ideal what you are doing? If you really want to build a bedini motor you must make sure that
the oscillating magnetic field is greater than the stationary magnetic field,  and when designing the electro-coils
never exceed the length to the inner heighth of your electro-coil, by doing this your electro-coils will be very
efficient. only then will you be able to produce a free energy device of the second kind.

p.s.  designing motors of the third kind ! eliminating the BEMF that all electro-coils produced.


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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 07:24:33 AM »
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when designing the electro-coils never exceed the length to the inner heighth of your electro-coil

Please explain....from diagram
Neo Magnets used  are capable to atract 2 inch apart metal object.. This much power is enough ??

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2008, 03:01:15 AM »
Capacitor, this is the Bedini schematic that I have.  Also I think you should send a private message to "pese" , I think he might be able to help you.

(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7598/p1000685smallzl6.jpg)

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Offline Magnethos

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2008, 07:19:47 PM »
Hi to everyone. I have made a video where you can see how to obtain an overunity from a Bedini Motor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7aX6OK5hw

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Re: How to make bedini motor overunity ???
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