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Author Topic: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device  (Read 181775 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2008, 01:15:06 AM »
This is the correct circuit diagramm.
The incandescent lamp is optional and will also consume
power from the radio frequency bursts...

Regards, Stefan.

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Offline FatBird

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2008, 02:00:34 AM »
Great schematic Stefan.  Maybe Dave will come back with good news.


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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2008, 02:34:18 AM »
@ Stefan,
 I believe the lamp is in parallel with the "charging" battery(s)
at least thats what i have deduced from the interview, you may have more info. than I

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2008, 02:51:27 AM »
The lamp can be a 120 Volts incandescent lamp maybe 25 Watts type.
It is optional.
The main effect is the sparking copper-graphite commutator of the DC motor pumping
RF bursts into the charge battery B3.

Just do it first without the lamp.
The lamp is only a good indicator, that there are RF bursts on the line.
With the normal DC input current the lamp would not light
cause its DC resistance is too low and much lower than the motor impedance.
Just only if the RF bursts are coming from the commutator the big RF burst currents will
light up also the lamp a bit.

This could be a good indicator, that the circuit is working then to charge the battery B3 ( and optionally B4,B5, B6).

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2008, 02:56:40 AM »
Stefan,

First let me say that I lean more toward your carbon conversion theory. However, this circuit connection doesn't implement that theory. You  need to mod the motor's internal wirings to some extent. Additional works need to be done inside the motor's cage particularly around the commutator and brushes. Very little to almost no additional hardware is required.

Anyway, if this is really what David had in mind, then we should be moving past his circuit. The good thing is that we have a starting point.

Thanks,

Miki.


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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2008, 02:56:40 AM »
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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2008, 02:57:48 AM »
It sounds to me Stefan that you have duplicated the effect and are convinced of overunity. Does David get the Prize!

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2008, 03:49:42 AM »
Linearfashion, this is can not be considered as true over unity. It could be over unity if over unity the contest speaks of is based on human physical cost.

 To claim true over unity, we must prove what energy is first and that has yet to be done. We can not claim to produce more energy then the energy used unless we know what energy is and where it comes from. Just because we build something that shows to produce more does not mean that more is actually produced. The production may never have even taken place and the accumulation may be what has been achieved. Then we have to consider the energy used to produce the materials used as well as the energy that is held in the materials.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2008, 03:49:42 AM »
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Offline Linearfashion

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2008, 04:06:59 AM »
I agree entirely. It was an attempt at humor. A poor one, but please don't think I do not take over unity seriously. I am limited in my formal education, however I have great vision and understanding of this fascinating dimension we live in. I do feel that over unity is only achievable from the perspective  we have in this dimension. What I mean is, if you had the perspective of God (for example) all energy is re circulatory and therefore over unity is not necessary nor possible. If it wasn't obvious I was trying to say that the ultimate perspective can "see" all dimensions, and that being said I believe when we achieve over unity we are circulating energy inter- dimensionally.


Feel free to expand.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2008, 06:09:11 AM »
What's new David? Please give us an update.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2008, 08:21:39 PM »
Hi all,

I must interject that none of this is new! Been going on since the days of good ol' Tesla, and even in a derivative way with E.V. Gray. Woops, forgot John Bedini....... He publicly posted the schematic for this design many years ago in association with the "Tesla Switch".

The circuit USUALLY uses a "low resistance load" as shown in the schematic. Well, what is a low resistance load? Many people use a standard 12v bulb. But, you can use a 12v motor, with the exact results that Mr. Bowling claims.

Fact is, so many people in this area of research are newbies and have no idea of the research already performed; or they are brainwashed by the misinformation artists, or just can't focus on a project without changes. I make this statement with all due respect, but; calling attention to all of the wild and grandiose explanations for some simple process in the public domain for decades.

What is the purpose of this statement? To show that the information is out there, but only a handful of people actually do the work. Too many people sign up to chat and exchange ideas based on conventional EM theory. If more people would actually do the experiments and stop the chat, we could force out the devices that have been mysteriously lost for many years!!!!

A few facts.

I applaud Mr. Bowling for actually doing the work. Eventhough it is not an original design, at least he is trying, and deserves kudos for his hard work.

Next fact. This has NOTHING to do with brush conversion to energy. A standard bulb can charge the 3rd battery! No graphite brushes there...So, the bulb that is in a previous schematic as optional to absorb rf energy is more than that.. IT IS A LOAD!

The energy that does the charging is going from high potential to low potential. Therefore it flows into the 3rd battery to charge it. The charge flows from one set of batteries to the other. The motor or bulb is just a load to power as the energy flows from high to low potential.

Take a look at the way it is wired. Positive to positive.. EV Gray "split the positive" this way.  John Bedini has said so many times, the batteries are in "charge mode". As long as the potential traveling into another battery is at least 2 volts higher, it will sink to the lower potential... (in this case, charge the battery)

Next, has it even remotely occurred to anyone that this system could reach a resonant point?? Hahahha... How much research has actually been done on this project... Need I state the fact that the battery impedance will match at some point? Damn, those primary battery voltages stay the same for dozens of hours, and just keep charging batteries or running loads.......

Well, until the brushes change, or something mechanical breaks. So, lets replace the standard motor with pulse motors,  aka brushless motors. How long can we sustain that resonant circuit???  TRY IT...

Why the inductive loads increase the motor speed?? The resonant frequency changes , and the motor matches it. People keep forgetting that more energy drain from a battery also changes its internal impedance. Gotta get back in resonance..

Perhaps people could do the work and find these answers on their own. Then everyone could go buy a bunch of deep cycle marine batteries, a nice inverter, and run all the loads that you want, while keeping ALL the batteries charged.

Oh yeah, to keep nosy people from asking questions, add a solar panel somewhere for looks. Gotta remember, people resist change, and we need all the good minds we can keep. Don't want any trouble.

YES, this system will charge solar battery banks! Of course, may need a motor that can handle the power requirements. Pulse or otherwise.

Just keep in mind a few things. Never exceed the C-20 discharge rate of the batteries, never exceed the load capacity of your inverter, and DON'T hypothesize, just do it.......

Another thing, why not use a Bedini battery charger to "condition" your batteries to begin with? Your batteries will put out more power and charge quicker. It will also resurrect old sulfated batteries for use.

Dammit, sometimes these batteries powering my system read less than 12v... What the heck, the system is still running my loads and charging batteries......JUST LET IT WORK FOR YOU....No questions. Mother Nature is great.

Here is a link to look at and see what looks familiar with all of this... REMEMBER THE PAST.. If we forget it, we will never get ahead of this current world crisis.

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/tesla.html

Don't worry about rotating the batteries yet. Well, until you understand what is really happening. Teslas energy shuttling... Oh yeah, this DOES work with capacitors also... But they leak a bit, so they must keep adding a bit of a charge to them, but it will work.

Good luck, and hope people will stop hiding the truth and open their eyes.

JJ

PS, who am I to speak about all of this????

Well, we will just say, it has been running for a looooong time in practical application.


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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2008, 08:45:41 PM »


Hi Judo_Jack63 ,

Welcome to the club.
Yes,I do agree with you, it sounds like a Tesla Switch.
Actually, a was talking about this switch in a previous (apparently unnoticed  :P) post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4612.msg93978.html#msg93978

As far as I can catch it, you have been experimenting the Tesla Switch.
Could you tell us more about your experiments?

Best

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2008, 09:09:09 PM »
@JJ

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A standard bulb can charge the 3rd battery! No graphite brushes there...

Can you post a schematic for such a circuit?  Most Bedini systems use moving parts.

Thanks
Feynman



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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2008, 09:11:57 PM »
@judo_jack63,

I have built and tested three variants of the Tesla switch and NONE of
MY tested circuits was overunity. The newest variant that I tested was with
four 9,6 Volt 700 mA NiCad battery packs. I use HEXFET transistors controlled
from a PIC16F84A micro controller to switch between the batteries. I could NOT
detect any charge in the batteries.

Lately I also hooked up a 12VDC motor to two series lead acid batteries and tried to charge up two similar paralleled batteries.  After several cycles of swapping batteries between input and output, the batteries run down. Did not work for me.

I have build the Muller motor/generator. I have tested two different switches on that motor and is about to build and test the third variant later this year. So far, no free energy.

I have built and tested the MEG (Tom Bearden). Did not work for me.

I have built and tested Bedini motors. Yes, they do charge batteries but I was not able to find any free energy.

I'm still waiting for "free energy" and is still powering my house from the mains.  :D

Groundloop.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2008, 10:11:48 PM »
One problem I find with Bedini motors and others are that they use several magnets. Each of the magnets have center polarity's which take away from the efficiency because they only use half of the magnets surface for the attraction and or repel. The other half is not utilized and actually causes a resistance. If the several magnets were replaced with just one like in this next picture I have designed, then the whole magnet can be utilized and It should add more to the torque.

 You would have to shut off the coil just before the center of polarity is reached and then turn back on just after the center is passed but you would also have to switch the coils polarity as well. This would have to be done each time a center of polarity comes around.

The first will show one coil design, the second will show a four coil design and the last will show a one coil design that utilizes both poles of the coil.



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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2008, 10:19:53 PM »
Hi to all that replied to my post,

While I must first state that I really am not here to provide schematics or go into long dissertations regarding the achievability of OU devices, (because I expect that all posters should have a bit of knowledge in this area and have made something work) I will provide a few clues to help.

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