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Author Topic: Alex's MT Combination  (Read 87823 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2008, 02:48:11 PM »
Hi All,
so nobody found the pics in his disk cache or stored it ?

Well,
maybe we can discuss thus:

Here is again attached the basic pic.

Please tell me, if all the number:
1,2,3,4
are rods or if some of these are just ropes ??

and are X, Y, Z
fixed pins on the disc
or is for example Y not fixed tothe disc ?

This is very important.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2008, 02:48:11 PM »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2008, 02:55:07 PM »
If all 1,2,3,4 are rods
and Y is fixed to the disc,
why does it make sense to have at all
rod 4 ???


It only would make sense, if pinY would not be fixed to the disc.

But then , is 3 and 4 a rod or are these ropes ?

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2008, 03:09:24 PM »
Okay, I made a quick GIF animation,
don?t havemuch time currently,
but so you can see, how it is supposed to
rotate ?

Will clear up this animation later and do it in WM2D.
Maybe someone can answer my above question ?
Many thanks.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2008, 03:21:10 PM »
Alex

 It is allot harder to make work than it looks. You have to look at it as a center sliding weight, (which I have worked on and still look back at from time to time). So there for you will have to have almost double the weight shifting it than the weight shifted. Here is where the problem comes in, in a moving wheel. The ascending weight is falling back against the direction of the rotation and since it is almost the weight of the shifted arm, it alone can stop the turning, for it also moves faster from 9:00 to 6:00 point than the 12 to 3 point due to the direction of the spin and tend not to shift smoothly. That is where I was going to help you, how to smooth it's movement.

AB I would love your help, I would really appreciate that


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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2008, 03:30:14 PM »
No pictures of my wheel are on this forum, not one, you see my tests yes, but not my wheel, and by the looks of things you are all hungry for it, in that case I?m concerned, my wheel will work, no I am not embarrassed because of a fault, my wheel will first be completed then shown, not before...

MT 25 will not work, looking at that, there is somthing wrong about the picture...

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Re: MT Combination
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Offline Alexioco

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2008, 04:44:38 PM »
You have not noticed its problem then?

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #66 on: May 12, 2008, 08:54:45 PM »
Right I have something to say, unpin my topic, I am no longer going to come here as I am getting blamed for arguments, I'm told to say this and that, look, I came here to show you that I have found this wheel, if not so much fuss, I would of build it, and filmed it for you all, I wanted you ALL to see it, but I have had to close my forum down through the ignorance of other people on this forum, I would of loved to share this with you all, I was ready to until now... I?m sorry....

Just unpin this or delete this topic as some probably don?t even believe in my wheel, I will say this though, some people here have been very kind and helpful and I would not of found my wheel if no one here had supplied any information, but here is what I will say, study every wheel of besslers, then look for al of the good points and bad points, look at the wheels he hints at and look for the good points, if anyone has combined his wheels here but even slightly changed a part of the mechanism, then you have not correctly combined them, once you found the movement, you should be able to copy the wheels you combined, cut them out on paint and put them together...

MT 25 Can't work has the weights that are lifted make no difference in camparison to the lifting weights..

Sorry it had to end like this...

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #67 on: May 12, 2008, 09:42:45 PM »
You have to f-ing kidding us right? Why did you all of a sudden change your mind and what are you even talking about "people telling me what to say". Did someone contact you and threaten you, did some mib show up on your doorsteps or maybe some money was offered....You were the guy always getting help from people here with any wheel design you had and this is how you repay people. Sorry but then you're no good than the same poeple that don't believe in pm and ou. You abused the community and when you had your thing up and going you just gave everyone the middle finger for no reason. Ofcourse there's the other possiblity of having it setup and it not working, you felt the pressure was too high and just tried to make the people believe you were angered  ::). I guess pm is indeed a curse driving people paranoid.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2008, 09:58:10 PM »
Ok I'm sorry, I have carmed down now and yes you all should know, may I ask a single question first though, would you all wait for me to finish my wheel? I just tested it and it worked, it revolved twice then some levers fell apart so it stoped :p
I need a better way, other than small nails to fasten the levers

and P Motion, this it total my idea, only if i add your pully it will be some of yours... if you disagree then I will not post my wheel

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #69 on: May 12, 2008, 10:19:28 PM »
Hi Alex, when I am again at my home PC, I will change the title of the thread to your name.
What name do you wish ?
Alex?s Bessler wheel or someting simular ? Maybe including your last name ?

 Then everybody will know, that you are the inventor.

Great to hear that it worked already for 2 revolutions.

Please try to share again your principle, so we can see, if we can help you to y to find the best and most efficient design.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2008, 03:22:24 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #70 on: May 12, 2008, 10:23:35 PM »
Thank you :)

and by the way, i made a mistake i didnt mean two revolutions but the wheel started turnging and a weight rised, the motion continued then another weights rised ready to continue so two weights rised but then the levers lipped off the nails, funny as I was using pennies to turn my wheel :P oh yeah and also it worked with 1 pence pieces lifting two pence pieces :)

If you recall my post

Alex's Bessler Wheel Discovery

That will be fine :)

I am now going to write about my wheel then demonstrate it on a video how it works and what needs adjusting, give me a few days.

edit: Infact i will try and get footage tonight...

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Re: Alex rediscovered the Bessler wheel
« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2008, 10:41:00 PM »
Alex .. build your wheel - learn from it OR teach the rest who want to know once its built - don't get sucked into the mind games - keep focused & stay true to your word & you will have your integrity intact whatever the result of the build.

Also, be prepared for the best & the worst result of the testing, though its always hard to contain the excitement leading up to a crucial test - good luck to you.


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Re: Alex rediscovered the Bessler wheel
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2008, 11:12:55 PM »
I knew there was somthing funny, I remember you sending me message about conecting the weights in a certain way (which was already done as one could see in my drawing) you were trying to make it look like you just told me that, so I was right, and nope, my wheel how it is now is purly my idea, not once has your ideas come into play into my wheel, you have suggested other things which I admit and thanks but I have not used youyr ideas in anyway, my wheel is exactly the same as I started before I even posted my wheel on this forum so I'm not going to wait and see what the Admin has to say...

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Re: Alex rediscovered the Bessler wheel
« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2008, 11:26:50 PM »
Looks like history has a nice way of repeating itself. Can't we just all get along instead of accusing each other of theft because NOONE CARES. This is why projects should be open source or else this kind of unproductive/unconstructive/childish behaviours arise from pure greediness. Ofcourse I'm not in that position to  give a valuable opinion, but I pray to god that greedyness will never stain my vision.


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Re: Alex's Bessler Wheel Discovery
« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2008, 11:41:24 PM »
Okay, I have renamed the thread now.

Looking forward to your new postings Alex.

@PMotion.
Will try tommorow,
have to go to be now.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Alex's Bessler Wheel Discovery
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