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Author Topic: Alex's MT Combination  (Read 85991 times)

Offline Alexioco

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 03:18:01 PM »
Wow, that is a beautiful idea!  Ever since you posted the vid. I have been trying to figure it out, to no avail...  I really hope it works.

Thank you for your interest Sprocket :)
I was thinking about maybe improving this thing even more, I some how want to also combine this new wheel with MT 10 and 26 or 27...
I believe that MT 27 is very important because the weight basically takes itself into the centre of the wheel, but it is not capable of lifting itself at the top, that?s where my wheel comes in...
So maybe there is a way to include MT 27 into my wheel, you see, the secret to combining theses wheels is this...

1. Look for the problems in the MT wheels
2. Look for the qualities of each wheel
3. Then use the qualities that each wheel has and replace them with the problems and you get a working wheel...

P.S for some reason, my wheel reminds me of a leaf, it looks sort of like one, and oh yeah, this is something even more strange for you, if you take my wheel, and push the bottom weights out, then look at the structure, you get a Z for Zero = something for nothing :P

Can anyone think of a name for my wheel with the words leaf and zero?

How about; Zero Falling Leaf ZFF ? As the wheel is constantly falling, but never reaching the ground...

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 03:18:01 PM »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 03:36:02 PM »
Here is the wheel you saw in the footage, except its been improved and its combinded with besslers wheels...

First Wheel: The Movement
Second wheel: If you doubled the amount of weights

When weight A falls out, it lifts weight B
When weight C falls in, it pushes up weight D

Weight B and D are connected so when one end is lifted and the other end is being pushed, they are helping each other therefore creating a constant off balance.



Thanks for sharing Alexioco
One can easily emagine,how the wheel is about to work.
This is a new way to manage weights and make them work into a wheel.
Besseler himselve would be happy to see this construction.

helmut



Thank you Helmut, I am honored for you to say this to me.
I also like to thank God for inspiring me :)
and @ P-Motion, yes they are connected so pair of pairs working, they indeed help each other to lift, what I like about this wheel is this; normally when a weight reaches the bottom, it hangs and does nothing, just another weights to lift, but now, we have that bottom weights doing work as well as using the top weight to do work, then even connecting them (pair of pairs), so we have quite a powerful effect...

Hello Alexioco
I did some Modifikation on your Wheel
What do you think about, to use a long lever to push the (B) weights with higher torque.
Now it is a matter of math to find a suitable relationship between A and B

helmut

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 03:45:32 PM »
Here is the wheel you saw in the footage, except its been improved and its combinded with besslers wheels...

First Wheel: The Movement
Second wheel: If you doubled the amount of weights

When weight A falls out, it lifts weight B
When weight C falls in, it pushes up weight D

Weight B and D are connected so when one end is lifted and the other end is being pushed, they are helping each other therefore creating a constant off balance.



Thanks for sharing Alexioco
One can easily emagine,how the wheel is about to work.
This is a new way to manage weights and make them work into a wheel.
Besseler himselve would be happy to see this construction.

helmut



Thank you Helmut, I am honored for you to say this to me.
I also like to thank God for inspiring me :)
and @ P-Motion, yes they are connected so pair of pairs working, they indeed help each other to lift, what I like about this wheel is this; normally when a weight reaches the bottom, it hangs and does nothing, just another weights to lift, but now, we have that bottom weights doing work as well as using the top weight to do work, then even connecting them (pair of pairs), so we have quite a powerful effect...

Hello Alexioco
I did some Modifikation on your Wheel
What do you think about, to use a long lever to push the (B) weights with higher torque.
Now it is a matter of math to find a suitable relationship between A and B

helmut

I am not quite sure where the improvement is on the wheel, if your are referring the long pole that goes straight through the axis, then my wheel already has that.

The bottom lever A on that wheel has not fallen in, but it needs to in order to lift...

Thanks for ideas and help, Alex
« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 04:15:49 PM by Alexioco »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 11:13:54 PM »
Have done a small animation just for fun
But i dont know wheater it works or not(http://www.superenergy.de/Animation1/Alexiocoxxwheel)

helmut

p.s.: sorry it takes me some time till i figure out,how to link the file here


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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 11:49:11 PM »
Sounds great, I can't wait to see what you have done :)

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 11:49:11 PM »
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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2008, 12:17:27 AM »
Sounds great, I can't wait to see what you have done :)
Do not expect to much
It is a turning wheel only
If i can not link it here,i will send you the file by mail

helmut

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2008, 01:43:25 AM »
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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2008, 01:44:32 PM »
I was walking back from college this morning and I gave my wheel some thought, when I did tests on my wheel I found that a lighter weight can lift a little more heavier weight because of the way the levers works.
Take note that weight C can only fall inward, and when it does, its push on weight D is strong because of how weight C attaches to weight D, also once weight C has fallen in, weight D cannot fall out because it gets trapped, therefore only a light weight (C) is necessary to move weight (D).
Keeping this in mind, lets now look at weights B and A, weight A again can only fall out, and its pull on weight B is strong again because of how the levers attach, therefore, weight A can be lighter than weight B.
Now we have studied this, here is the part that makes the effect even stronger still, by having a bar go straight through the axel, weights C and A are working together in shifting/driving weights D and B, which will in turn cause weight B to push down to the bottom of the wheel and the process will repeat?

Now here is the question, how do we compare the weights to each other? Well let?s go through it.

1.   Weights D and B must weight the same.
2.   Weights C and A must also weigh the same.
3.   Weighs C and A must weigh lighter than weights D and B

Next question, how much more heavy must weights D and B weigh?

Well to put it simple I would say this;

Weight D can way 5 ounces
Weight B can way 5 ounces
Together they weigh 10 Ounces

Weight C can weigh 3 ? ounces
Weight A can weigh 3 ? ounces
Together they weigh 7 ounces

So what we have is 7 ounces lifting 10 ounces.

This I believe will cause continues rotation, even with just two weights (first picture)
If we make a cross bar (second picture) then the wheel will be stronger still.

Any idea or improvements are warmly welcomed :)

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2008, 12:58:03 PM »
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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2008, 02:40:14 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 10, 2008, 12:30:12 AM by Alexioco »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2008, 04:51:17 PM »
Ok I have made another improvement to my wheel, I have added another wheel, I belive my wheel to be complete now, tell me if you agree that my wheel is improved

thanks :)


Hi Alex
This might be a amplifier to improofe a swing to a pendulum.

But if you imagine,that the wheel will turn 360 Degrees???
Please print out a drawing and cut the wheel out,than take the paper wheel and turn it i your hands.

helmut

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2008, 09:18:39 PM »
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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2008, 04:31:14 PM »
Well I thought the above wheel would be the best one as not only do the weights A and C do the lifting, but they also take an outer position on the descending side...

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2008, 09:50:49 PM »
Well I thought the above wheel would be the best one as not only do the weights A and C do the lifting, but they also take an outer position on the descending side...

  Sorry, was thinking the rod went all the way past the axle.
You are right, it might be the best one to try. One thing I like
about it is it's simplicity. If it works, you will know why. And if it doesn't,
shouldn't take much to figure what modification you need to make.
 That is one thing about it, if you are used to working with a scale
of 5 and 10 ounces, might be easy enough for you to try a build.
 A lot of it does come back to what a person is comfortable working with.
 

Ok, I have one final question which you could help me answer :)

About this very new wheel above, even though weight A sticks out further its got to go past the bottom enough for weight B to make it to the bottom and weight D to make it to the top so they can lift, I can only think that momentum will achieve this, would you agree?
Once this is sorted, I will make my wheel...
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 10:12:08 PM by Alexioco »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2008, 12:17:25 AM »
@ Alex

 There is one thing to remember. The amount of travel has to compliment in a form of timing to the speed drop or it will most likely keel and balance downward.

PS take a look at your sight.

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Re: MT Combination
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