Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: mini torch works!!!  (Read 8762 times)

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
mini torch works!!!
« on: April 16, 2008, 03:21:43 AM »
ok, forgive me. new to this. my 2 clamshell design with sodium hydroxide works for my mini torch. i was able to burn through aluminum!!! same design with baking soda just burned off paint. i am stoked.... next is koh. i hope to use mini torch for hobby uses. cooooool
Logged

eddiefreddie

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 04:03:16 AM »
High Five... water is a cool fuel....How many watts   v/a are you using?
Logged

Aka

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 04:06:02 AM »
congratulations... how have you made the torch itself? have you got something to prevent the gas from blowing up the cell?

I am thinking of using my small cell for the same type of thing so any advice is great
Logged

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 01:14:24 PM »
I have it hooked to an extra car battery without a amp meter on there. so i cannot tell you the amps i am pulling. i was using a cigarette filter to prevent flashback, but now i just push some cotton in the pipe just before the ball needle. it takes some messing with the end of the needle to get your flame to stay lit and also stop trying to flash back up the needle, but it is working..... now, may go to a triple clamshell to put out more gas. i dont care what it pulls amp wise cause this design wont work on a car. i use a battery charger hooked to a battery and work off the battery while i am messing with it. it is cool, however, just be careful. always where glasses in case it pops lid off your producing cell. i dont want that crap in my eyes....
Logged

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 02:36:06 PM »
Drew whats a clamshell and who makes the torch your working with ?   have you ever tried to establish BTU as a benchmark for your experiments  ?  thanks Chet
Logged

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 03:29:56 PM »
clamshell is a design by sirhoax on youtube. it is one plate mounted between two wall plates facing each other. like a clam. they surround the middle plate. the two outer ones having the same charge. as for btu benchmark. no, i have not. but may. i am mostly experimenting with this for hobby use. i am gonna put one of these on my car once i get my design correct. the torch is just a ball needle inflator cut off at the end. the trick is crimping the head just right for the hole to be a good size to let the right amount of gas out. i have seen some big flames on youtube. just do a search on micro torch. or mini torch. flashback is key also..... did i mention boooooommmm. key is flashback...  cotton is good, so it steel wool. but you don't want to plug up your hose.
Logged

Paul-R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2086
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 03:49:58 PM »
I cannot see what you folks are doing here. It looks as if you are using KOH or NaOH
as an electrolyte to generate hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis. If this is so, please
remember that the resulting gas, hydroxy, is VERY DANGEROUS and that the
electrolytes, KOH and NaOH are most hazardous also.

Hydroxy burns very rapidly, and sets up shock waves which can easily shatter ear drums.
In fact, you might not hear the event because you would be rendered deaf by it.
Paul.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2008, 03:38:37 PM by Paul-R »
Logged

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2008, 04:30:38 PM »
agreed on dangerous. please see my post... where goggles... use flashback preventer..... what are we doing here? we are using feedback to refine designs on hho generators and uses for it. hey, i don't want anyone to get hurt using this stuff, but it has a good use for hobbyists as well as those looking to use it in the car. i am persuing both ends. i have tried baking soda, not happy with results. going with other chemicals now. is there a better forum for us to be at? if so, i shall go there to discuss the subject. i don't understand your post or perhaps you think we are being childish with something very dangerous... i would rather test my designs on a bench than waste time putting it in my car and finding out it doesn't work. as for my mini torch. i want to use it for making hobby stuff. yard art and feeders and fountains and stuff. i am the last to play with this stuff popping bubbles. any fool can do that.
Logged

eddiefreddie

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2008, 05:05:00 PM »
I am trying calcium hydride which is pickling lime and it seems to be working pretty good/ CaH2 ...any thoughts?
When using lye/ NaOH it doesnt take much , when researching it seems our local water treatment utility puts that in our drinking water along with chlorine and flouride.So it can not be but so dangerous. Tap water gets dirty too fast so I always use the best distilled water possible.
 If you put 115v dc current thru your cell say at 8 amps it will make steam like crazy.
 
There are a couple designs that seperate the hydrogen and oxygen
thru seperate hoses ...like hydranox5ooo this seems like it is better for cars,as hydrogen by itself does not boom and it still makes a good flame although almost invisible. For using hydroxy gas to run a car like Daniel Dingle...we must use the vacuum potential of the combusting  hydroxy..I think it is stronger than the explosive force.
It is possible...implosion that is.
 People need to know that this hydroxy gas can be used safely.
There is no energy shortage anywhere in this world , maybe water shortage ...lol
Logged

CarbedNotch

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 02:33:23 AM »
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/carbednotch/april182008002.jpg)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/carbednotch/april182008001.jpg)
Logged

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2008, 03:23:09 AM »
Carbed notch    is that a mig welding tip?    SWEET!!!      Chet
Logged

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 03:40:14 AM »
yea, nice setup... you should still put a flashback on there. just to be safe...
Logged

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2008, 03:57:19 AM »
DREW  I suppose torch tip size is proportionate to gas volume   Carbed Notch seems to be working with more gas than a smushed needle valve    I like the orifice to be a known size for safe duplication   @ Paul are you somewhat fluent in HHO will  you share some of your knowledge ? [for a safe torch / heater design] thanks Chet
Logged

drewdog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2008, 04:19:50 AM »
for sure. i am simply amazed at how fast this stuff burns.... his torch looks huge.... hope he videos it on youtube....
Logged

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: mini torch works!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2008, 04:29:40 AM »
DREW  not to put you on the spot ... but what is the idea behind steel wool cig filters etc for flashback? I would like to understand this better  thanks   Chet
Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »