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Author Topic: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations  (Read 288060 times)

Offline resonanceman

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2008, 09:39:55 AM »
If I don't  get anything else  from  these tests I  have been doing ..... I think  it will allow me to make a  " extra " layer  for making  power  with  a earth battery .

Using  flashing .......  I think  they have 8 in  steal  flashing ........ I am thinking of  rolling   the layers into a roll ......... and using  it as a core .   ..........it should  work almost  the same as a solid core ...........but the  magnetic field in the  center of the coil  should be  very strong ........it may provide a reasonable  voltage with out being  real big .


gary   

Edit  ......  of course  I am assuming  we will  find other ways to get  some power out of the earth batterys ......otherwise  we won't  have  enough  power to make a  strong magnetic field

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2008, 07:43:27 PM »
If my theory  is  right ........each cycle the  iron should  develop a slightly higher  change than the copper ....
The  difference in charge it very small .......  of  course  raising the  power of the magnetic field  would make it alot easier   to get  a useful amount of power .......but  I am looking for  a non  powered   system  at  the moment  . 
gary

I have been wondering why my multimeter takes so long to come to the final reading of the voltage and particularly, the amperage.
I wonder if it is literally growing. If there is a known reason for this phenomenon I will appreciate hearing it before I do tests on it.

try this site for silk.

http://www.thaisilks.com/index.php?cPath=1_2

that page otta take you to a good list of choices.

6mm or 5mm undyed are less than $5/yd. and the yd is 45 " wide. They are in california, I think.
It is where the silk I used came from.

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2008, 08:39:21 PM »
If my theory  is  right ........each cycle the  iron should  develop a slightly higher  change than the copper ....
The  difference in charge it very small .......  of  course  raising the  power of the magnetic field  would make it alot easier   to get  a useful amount of power .......but  I am looking for  a non  powered   system  at  the moment  . 
gary

I have been wondering why my multimeter takes so long to come to the final reading of the voltage and particularly, the amperage.
I wonder if it is literally growing. If there is a known reason for this phenomenon I will appreciate hearing it before I do tests on it.

try this site for silk.

http://www.thaisilks.com/index.php?cPath=1_2

that page otta take you to a good list of choices.

6mm or 5mm undyed are less than $5/yd. and the yd is 45 " wide. They are in california, I think.
It is where the silk I used came from.

jeanna

Jeanna

I have no experience  with  fabrics like this .......  habotia , china.,paj       ? ? ?

What  kind did  you  use?
 Or what would  you  recomend?



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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2008, 09:17:41 PM »
Gary,
I thought what I bought (6 years ago) was china silk. It is just a plainweave. (over under over under) I am pretty sure haboutai is Japanese for the same thing, and therefore my guess is that paj is Indian for it too.

Since they are all cheap, get whichever you want.. the mm means momme pronounced "mommy" and has to do with the thickness of the thread. Really any of them will do.

 I would stay away from dyed fabric of any kind. Fabric dyes attach to metal ions in the fiber and we don't want to be any more confused than we need to be. There is plenty of time to add a dye that changes its color with the addition of cu and moves to a different color when influenced by fe. We could use that to tell us something if we need it - later.

Can you tell, I have never had a kitchen that wasn't more honestly a lab?  ;)

jeanna


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2008, 07:00:33 AM »
@ All:

This is an older photo of my iron/magnesium/copper wire cell that I made a while back.  With this cell buried outside in my garden, I was able to get the mA's up from my multiple electrodes from like 2 to 9.  It is just 2 iron spikes (zinc coated) and three magnesium fire starter blocks, and bare copper wire wrapped around the spike cores.  I just wanted to post this here for the newer folks.

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2008, 01:50:32 AM »
Hi all I had two rods in the earth for about a week now. When I first had them in the earth I was getting like .377 vdc and .005 ma. This was the 12? (305 mm) long by ? ? (6.35mm) wide copper pipe north about 7? in the earth  and a aluminum 8? (203 mm) long by ? ? (6.35 mm) wide spike south also about 7? in the earth. I switch from aluminum to steel (about the same size) because it seem when I pump the steel in and out of the earth it kept its built up charge for a longer time than the aluminum. I tap my two fingers over the steel spike to simulate vibrating the spike to see if it would increase the power of the rods. Sad to say it did not; it looks like only pumping it in and out of the earth will do that. Now just sitting in the earth it is up to .950 vdc and .180 ma. I think its like what Stubblefield said the longer you have them in the earth the better it becomes at tapping the power. Be it the rods or his coil.

@Jeanna thank you for the list I will try to get some Carbon and Magnesium as soon as possible.

@ All I was thinking if we hook the rods in series they short each other out, but if we hook each pair of rods to their own super cap and hook each super cap in series, we might be able to get unlimited useable energy once we have enough pairs of rods and super caps. As I said before I know next to nothing about electronics, so maybe a set up like this might not be able to work but for now I don?t see why not.

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2008, 03:31:51 AM »
@ kevolts:

Supercaps to the individual cells and then hook them in series......that never crossed my mind.  It just might work!  The coils don't seem to have a problem with series but the electrodes did in my experiments.  I see what you are saying and that is really worth a try.  Great idea.  I know more about electronics today than I did yesterday, but not as much as I will tomorrow. I too am learning as we go here.

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2008, 03:56:47 AM »


@Jeanna thank you for the list I will try to get some Carbon and Magnesium as soon as possible.
Bill's the expert on that one.

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@ All I was thinking if we hook the rods in series they short each other out, but if we hook each pair of rods to their own super cap and hook each super cap in series, we might be able to get unlimited useable energy once we have enough pairs of rods and super caps. As I said before I know next to nothing about electronics, so maybe a set up like this might not be able to work but for now I don?t see why not.

It is interesting, I did this sort of thing -but different-the other day.

Here is how it worked. - (Inside on the table)

I hooked 2 supercaps in parallel to each other right on the 5,6 wires. The 5 cu is the positive. I kept them on for a few minutes because supercaps fill and empty slowly, so the 2 caps were filled to about 70% of the voltage of the coil. but there were 2 of them. both filled equally. So, each cap had .570vdc in it. That is still too little to do much.

Then I hooked them in series.

They did not turn the cd motor I have so I tried to check out the amperage, but that just drained them out. (That is only because of the way the amps are perceived by the meter.)

Although they did not make the motor turn, the little bit of foil that is stuck on the spindle like a propellor jumped, which is exactly what it does when there is almost enough juice!!

I will continue with this. It is a good idea, I think. At least a good idea for learning stuff. ;)

jeanna

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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2008, 10:05:13 AM »
Are you guys using bifilar coils as in two wires wrapped next to each other or as in one wire wrapped around a rod?
Bifilar coils with two wires and it's cancelling action is claimed to be the missing link between the electric,magnetic and gravity field.
Many man in the past have written about things loosing weight in bifilar setups.

M.


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2008, 04:13:28 PM »
Are you guys using bifilar coils as in two wires wrapped next to each other or as in one wire wrapped around a rod?
Bifilar coils with two wires and it's cancelling action is claimed to be the missing link between the electric,magnetic and gravity field.
Many man in the past have written about things loosing weight in bifilar setups.

M.



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The  Stubblefield   earth battery that  we are  trying to    figure out  is  2 wires ,   ( one copper one  iron)    wound  together   around an iron  core .   
There is a copper sencondary  then wound  around  the   bifilar   windings .


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2008, 04:45:42 PM »


@ All I was thinking if we hook the rods in series they short each other out, but if we hook each pair of rods to their own super cap and hook each super cap in series, we might be able to get unlimited useable energy once we have enough pairs of rods and super caps. As I said before I know next to nothing about electronics, so maybe a set up like this might not be able to work but for now I don?t see why not.


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@ kevolts:

Supercaps to the individual cells and then hook them in series......that never crossed my mind.  It just might work!  The coils don't seem to have a problem with series but the electrodes did in my experiments.  I see what you are saying and that is really worth a try.  Great idea.  I know more about electronics today than I did yesterday, but not as much as I will tomorrow. I too am learning as we go here.

Bill



I remember  reading somehere that   the  rods  usually  short themselves out  if they are close together.   It  was  suggested  that there is  some kind of  vortex  action  going on .......and  that each rod should  be at least 6 feet  apart


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2008, 06:58:46 PM »
@ Gary:

My multiple electrodes are a little over 6 feet apart and I still could not get a successful series test.  I think that is an interesting concept about using the super caps and then hooking them in series.  As soon as I can obtain some more caps, I will give it a try.  Our bifilar coils do not appear to have the same problems from what I have seen so far.

I keep saying this but I am amazed that both my electrode set-up and my coils are still putting out energy for free.

@marco:

Yes, as Gary said, bifilar.  The wires are insulated from the iron core with cotton and also they are insulated from each other, and each layer of windings with cotton as well.  When dry, they put out a small amount of electricity just sitting there.  When wet, they put out a lot more voltage and power. (still a relatively small amount)

Bill


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2008, 11:07:06 PM »
Many man in the past have written about things loosing weight in bifilar setups.

M.
Marco,
Do you have any references for this particular bifilar use?
Or are they not in english?
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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2008, 05:31:28 AM »
note I am way far behind you all. I am stuck on my E-cell. and until i can get the voltage i want, i don't want to move on. i have tested many different kinds of metal in earth. no luck finding what i am looking for.

 so i switched to water cells. what i found was just touching water with either my copper or zink rod produced a voltage. and almost the total amount. it was higher when they were all the way in my jar but not much higher.  the problem i had in series was i would loose amps the higher the voltage got. i had my cells up to 7.96 volts but only had .15 mamps. using water only.  so i tried a cap in series and wish i had used more then 2 cells. what i found was the cap charged the zink with positive voltage. so now the minus was plus and the plus was plus. very little voltage and no gain.

does any one think i should try may be 6 cell in series with caps


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Re: Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2008, 06:32:01 AM »
note I am way far behind you all. I am stuck on my E-cell. and until i can get the voltage i want, i don't want to move on. i have tested many different kinds of metal in earth. no luck finding what i am looking for.

 so i switched to water cells. what i found was just touching water with either my copper or zink rod produced a voltage. and almost the total amount. it was higher when they were all the way in my jar but not much higher.  the problem i had in series was i would loose amps the higher the voltage got. i had my cells up to 7.96 volts but only had .15 mamps. using water only.  so i tried a cap in series and wish i had used more then 2 cells. what i found was the cap charged the zink with positive voltage. so now the minus was plus and the plus was plus. very little voltage and no gain.

does any one think i should try may be 6 cell in series with caps

Pardon

What   is your  E-cell like?

I believe that   stubblefield  was working  with more than   galvanic  reactions .    I am looking for   similarity's  between   the earth  battery and   radiant energy  receivers  .


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