Or go outside in a thunderstorm, with a big iron pole in your hands, and wait a for while....

Greetings Spider.

Bascially imparting viscosity parameters to electrical phenomenon.

Yes. We see nothing in the space. But you move it you create potential / potentiallity.
That  is why I mentioned the mercury in a vaccum. I am using light switch vials. At a very high speed input it looks like a crystal.
Don't even try that experiment. At the speed that fracturing occurs, glass looks like jello. The mercury will shatter in all directions. A Hutchison micro experiment. The mercury can't move that fast so it shatters. Hit it with a hammer instead. Slower speed.

High speed, low voltage. Raise the voltage lower the speed. And anything inbetween. One just has to find the material that responds in a band of operation.
The kick? It's there. Space reflects back a thousand fold. Like any other medium it represents resistance to us and wants to be balanced at the band or place of existance where that material resides. We are jacking it out of place. Physically and with frequency. That is why fast off times are needed. We alleviate the opposing pressure quickly so the displaced material can return quickly. It kicks when it crosses it normal place of balance and rings in quiesence showing a damped wave.
And the things that exist right beside respond too. Ripples. You cause equal waves in water and every 7th one is taller. Amusement water parks have to stop their wave machines every so often because of the power build up of the contained water. Got kicks? We don't produce them they occur via the harmonics or speed at which we ring the destination material. No different than a steel handrail in a stairwell producing echoes.

The fastest current is spark gap. The highest voltage is flyback or ignition coil. This was productive.

--giantkiller. Got Keely?

Wanna see a kick, build a kickcoil..

Greetings Spider

Ahh, perhaps there is a glimmer of hope....someone actually listening to Spherics posting of the kick coil using a delay pulse.  So strange that no one will listen and even experiment with his second post.

Sometimes, I suspect that some here are afraid to actually find out how the TPU really does work.  But glad to see that not all.

Great Job Spider!!  I look forward to more posts about those delay pulse kicks.! 

Cheers all,

Bruce

Well Bruce,

Here is a simple experiment everybody can do.

It is about the infamous iron delay coils.

Tho you have to go into the nanoseconds to see it, its worth it.

greetings Spider

PS, I never said I would post anything usefull, I just wanted to show off my equipment LOL

Ok Spider, that's a nice display, assuming the scope inputs are of equal setting.

Here's my problem.  If I "assume" an iron delay coil is in use in the SM device, it would be in the Collector, because
the control coils are obvious.  Now we must feed the Collector?

I'm really trying to stick with visible items on the smaller SM units, so I can stick with what I can see.  This may not
be an effective method, but it's where I'm at.  Of course one can create a "Kick" the way you did.  If this IS the mode
of operation, then the "Kick" coil is the collector, and the Input signal is from the Control coils, then there is still a
different situation going on here.  (Not normal induction into Collector....)

Maybe the idea is the "Kick" coil is the seperate "Torrid"?

I'm still not saying wrong or right, but to me, it would be visable if the control coils were not "Lamp Wire" and/or had
Iron wire mixed in.  I can therefore eliminate that from the control coils, no question.

Also, was it SM who said the "Kicks" were OU, or was it the follow up people?  Not to say they are wrong, but I was
under a different impression.  SM DID infer that, but I didn't think those words were used.  He DID state the "Kick"
he was using was a Current Kick, and yet most of the "Good" designs are using voltage pulses to produce the
"Kick".

Not to repeat myself, but I still see two non-convergent methods here.  I guess it's up to me to test and prove one
way or another.  (Note:  Spiders "Iron" delay coil is GREAT.  Will any of the "Voltage Pulse" proponents explain
how it could possibly be used if NO magnetic materials should be in the device?)

Here is my "Real - World" problem AGAIN.  Divergent designs.  I cannot seem to produce a kick, without a "Delay"
of an actual signal, and no matter how much I play with "Pure Copper" coils, the elusive "Kick" will not appear.  I
can produce many interesting effects, but NOT the simple effect spider just showed.  Add a little iron delay coil,
and it's a different story, but the two methods I mentioned can't be reconciled.

THere is either Iron in the device or not.  I need a little help here, for I don't think anyone has stated HOW to do
this without the Iron, using the "Kick".  The original Spherics post is fantastic, as mentioned, but precludes the
use of iron in the system, meaning that "Kick" production is using that "Comp" field, as described in that post.
This is an aether-based device, and probably a better design, by a long shot, but it IS NOT an SM TPU.

I can't make it much clearer than that.  I realize I'm not the best with words, but logic inside me is my best
strength, and there is a confusion factor here.  I don't WANT to skip by SM to go the Aether Route, as posted.

If I not making myself and my question clear, then I guess I'm on my own till I have test data to back up anything
either way.  Hopefully, I can Reproduce Spiders effect in a collector via Mag or Electrostatic induction.  That
Iron wire would run hot as heck, but at least I would know what was up.  The ONLY thing I can be sure of
rightnow is that there is NO IRON in the Control coils on the small open units from SM, and that those coils
aren't big enough to form an aetheric vortex with the simple circuitry seen on the device.  (It seems...)

Any other helpful hints.  Obviously, I'm gonna have to wind and test this today, just to prove to myself that
I can obtain a "Kick" in an Iron coil, without directly sending in a signal.  If it's induced via Cap effect or
inductive effect is secondary.  This all assumes the "Kick" is directly OU, of which I am not fully convinced
either way, YET! 

OK, maybe I'm too thick headed, but I have to follow my feelings on this one, at least for a while.

Art.

Hello everyone,

We don't have to assume that the delay pulse is in the collector, because it is not.

The collector is just that.  Collects electrons (current) through a process that is similar to induction (but not   )  The collector is separated from the control coils by space (distance) not wired to the control coils at all.  The collector is the output coil.  I had said that all along on my old thread, and Spherics confirmed it in his second post.

Step 1:
Visualize an anomalous "signal" of HF that appears where it should not be.  The "kick".  This "signal" or "kick" is s peek at the Ether (space, dark energy, ) being touched and radiant energy is produced.

The "signal" or "kick" is not very useful, so a way had to be figured out how to use this anomalous "signal", this litte bit of extra power that should not have been there.  It was also found that an anomalous magnetic field, of greater strength than should have been there, is also produced on the North end of the "bifilar coil".

Step 2:
SM then figured out a way to produce the anomalous "kick" or "signal" hundreds of thousands of times a second.

He set up a collector, not wired to the sometimes three and sometimes four, and sometimes two "delay pulse coils", depending on the particular design of the TPU.  This collector was made of stranded wire to increase the surface area for the collection of this current.

The "delay pulse coils", be it 2, 3, or 4, each had to be rotated with 120 degree phase shift.  This produced rotation.  As the anomalous "signal" or "kick" was produced in each "delay pulse coil" and rotated, the North end of each coil produced an increased magnetic field.  Spherics called this a "comp field".  (reference Marco's dancing magnets)  As the control coils (called such, because the "controller" pulsed and rotated them.) were spun, a current, DC, was produced on the collector. 

SM used three collectors most of the time.  These "output" coils could then be wired in series for more voltage, or in parallel for more amperage output, or a mixture of both.

All of this is in Spherics second post, and Steven Mark's writings. 

Mannix, Grumpy, myself and others have been asking everyone to experiment with Spherics second post on his thread. 

Total members of OU.com:  13,899
Total members who are working on this in the public forum, Spider.

Grumpy has been trying to give some of you the physics to get you there, but few seem to listen.

Mannix has also said to try Spherics experiments as laid out in his second post, but alas, few seem to listen.  And Mannix would know.

If you want to experiment, experiment with Spherics second post.  If you want to build his tetrahedral from his first post, that is fine, though it is more difficult.  If you need help, ask on the forum and one of the guys will help you.

Happy experimenting, 

Bruce

now were getting some where.....

good job forest


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now forest if you could discharge that to a primary of low selfinduction wound on the collector coil what would be the result?  out put out the secondary ?

and this would then be hot electricty or normal electricty the out put of the seccondary?

im intrested in hearing your results 

i would tend to think that some translating device must be used 

a cap a battery....


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Please, where can I find Spheric posts ? I don't understand those two pictures. They looks to me like Tesla experiments with displacement currents. If this is true that what I'm missing is the advantage of toroid core and rotating magnetic fields.
Hmm,it can't be so easy...


Open path vs closed path...  How would you enlarge displacement current and convert it back to ordinary hot current ?

Is open path and high frequency oscillation the key and magnetic fields and toroid core only an engineering choice to maintain it ? In other words : could we implement the simplest device first ?

Does someone has a knowledge if capacitors are used in TPU ?

Hi Forest,

Here is the thread he started.  He only posted six times in it.  The first post is his, but you want the second post on page 2 or 3, can't remember.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg83207.html#msg83207

Cheers,

Bruce

P.S.  I drew the pictures above.