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Author Topic: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)  (Read 227501 times)

Offline poynt99

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2008, 06:55:19 PM »
Like SM said (wish the f**k he had made a couple of blueprints of this design instead of some homegrown videos)
That's the reason I think SM's knowledge is useless - he provided no plans, no component types and no component values. Unuseful bla'blaing - there is a lot of such type of guys on the net. Otto's plans should be used as a ground I think now, even if they were inspired by SM. The idea I have is that energy is not 'transferred' from Earth or Sun, or Moon, etc. It is created by means of potential field produced by the saw-tooth HV pulses. It's a totally different thing.

that's just crap. pretty tired of this dissing SM all the time. all these f@#$king threads wouldn't be here if it wasn't for SM. give your head a shake man.

use your grey matter and put the SM clues and grumpy's, spherics', et al insights together. there is something there based on all this, and it's not down the otto/gk path.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
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« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2008, 07:01:38 PM »
   I hate to cloud this thread (grumpy gets pissed and rightly so) but it is important to realize that the pack of atoms we call Earth, ourselves included,  moves at a pretty good clip relative to other forms of energy running inertial tracks of a different magnitude. Blink your eyes and you are 15kilometers or more from where you were when you started blinking your eyes relative to the Sun.  And you moved in at least 3 different directions also. The idea is to toss a baseball in front of a speeding train and get it back with a lot more energy in it then when it was sitting in our glove.  Nasa has been doing it since the 70's slingshotting spacecraft from one inertial field to the other around the solar system.  We should be able to do it in the space between two windings.


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2008, 08:59:50 PM »
use your grey matter and put the SM clues and grumpy's, spherics', et al insights together. there is something there based on all this, and it's not down the otto/gk path.
Rotating magnetic fields and 'extraction of energy from Earth's magnetic field' do not make sense to me. It is exactly Otto's path (and my deductions about DC acoustic waves) which makes at least some sense and Dirac delta spikes and their spectral content which includes DC component.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 09:31:05 PM by aleks »

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« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2008, 09:02:34 PM »
Blink your eyes and you are 15kilometers or more from where you were when you started blinking your eyes relative to the Sun.
The fact that Earth's ether whirl passed 15 km on its orbit in a second does not mean a whirl you are creating in TPU didn't move and was left behind by 15 km. It's a principle of relativity. Small whirl inside a large whirl moves together with a large whirl. This principle actually has a more general view if you perceive it as a sum of sine-wave oscillations. Oscillation with a higher amplitude always "owns" (carries) less powerful oscillations. Lower frequencies are usually thought as being "base" frequencies for higher frequencies. These frequencies do not mix in a signal - they live their own lives, so to say, but in a field there is always a carrier and a carried something.

Nasa has been doing it since the 70's slingshotting spacecraft from one inertial field to the other around the solar system.
It's a good point. What NASA uses? Planet's gravity. So, we should create gravity as well. This is what I'm trying to say from the time I started to talk about DC acoustic waves, and according to my deduction it is what SM's and Otto's devices actually do: they create gravity/anti-gravity potentials which creates energy much like planet's gravity creates energy for spacecraft. Also note that cold electricity demonstrates destruction of energy.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 09:51:46 PM by aleks »


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« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2008, 10:57:37 PM »
    @Alecks

  DC acoustical waves or scalar em waves stand still compared to the Earth.  If SM or Tesla for that matter was able to create a scalar emwave then it stands still in 4d and along comes the Earth field, and there is a relavent exchange of energy between the two inertial frames.  A collision of two inertial frames with potential energy stored in each. An accident in the aether.  A magnetic field crossing a conductor.

  @all

    If the control windings produce a compression of the ambient magnetic field as well as a spin component it starts to resemble what atomic neuclei have and that is a resonant structuring of compression radiation and spin.  The initiation of the exciter windings routine is a major issue that Paul's feedback circuit solves.  If the freqs are appearing in the ouput it is time for another pulse.  I do wonder if downstream of the filters if a small cap and avalanche diode may be needed to square up the wave fronts.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 11:33:23 PM by sparks »

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2008, 11:37:49 PM »
If SM or Tesla for that matter was able to create a scalar emwave then it stands still in 4d and along comes the Earth field, and there is a relavent exchange of energy between the two inertial frames.  A collision of two inertial frames with potential energy stored in each. An accident in the aether.  A magnetic field crossing a conductor.
Well, maybe. The scalar wave (or DC acoustic wave) is inertia-less and in this respect it is independent from Earth's inertial system, that's why it can supply energy to Earth's inertial systems (e.g. to free electrons in a collector coil). However, this does not stand true for rotating magnetic fields - they are inertial systems born in Earth's inertial system, they'll cease to exist after transferring all their energy back.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #81 on: April 13, 2008, 04:45:54 AM »
use your grey matter and put the SM clues and grumpy's, spherics', et al insights together. there is something there based on all this, and it's not down the otto/gk path.

So true, so true.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #82 on: April 13, 2008, 08:28:52 AM »
I am sorry this came so late, but "when I have some more free time" has turned out to be now.  :-[

I destroyed my timer circuit getting these..... (the one I was overclocking to almost 5Mhz... grrr . ) I was direct driving it, and a second set of trial photos I was in the process of making with different effects, I just KNEW better than trying to low duty cycle spike it higher frequency.... now I have an awesome function generator, that puts out nice square waves, until you load it in any manner. The the circuit goes screwy. Scrap and build another.

Oh well

Anyway, I was going to demonstrate that square wave input can produce AC sines in a resonant circuit. Understand that the coil is large, with a tiny (I think 10pf if I remember correctly) capacitance, as I want it to act as a resonator. Now to the pics.

First, a pic of the input wave taken at 1volt per division as a reference as to oscillator output.

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/example1/555square1vd.jpg)

Here is the ouput at the same 1volt per division setting:

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/example1/555sinesat1vdiv.jpg)

I lowered the volts per division to more clearly see the pattern:

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/example1/555sines.jpg)

Now, I moved in for a super close up view, to demonstrate what I have been calling a "ghost wave", which is due to the resonance:

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/example1/555sinescloseup.jpg)


These were the sines. With this particular setup, I achieved AC sines, but rather horrid waveforms. Of the pictures I took before this particular circuit blew, I have only one. I adjusted the circuit to demonstrate "kicks with tons of hash"....

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/example1/555pulse.jpg)

I managed to get the pulses, with alot of hash, but nowhere to the extent I was after as I have seen much better. I got the hash, then the circuit blew, so we will have to settle with this for now. I think an AC pulse backfed through a low cycle into my circuit.

Paul



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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #83 on: April 13, 2008, 08:49:24 AM »
You know what they say better late then never ;)

I'm still awake I know I aint much help but I do appreciate the visuals.

They help me understand a little more at a time just what is all being described.

Keep up the research pauldude and please do post visuals it gives the thread a lot more content.

Thanks
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« Reply #84 on: April 13, 2008, 09:11:37 AM »
These were the sines. With this particular setup, I achieved AC sines, but rather horrid waveforms.
These results are of course what a resonant low-pass filter may produce. Below is what an 'idealized' -48 dB/oct resonant low-pass filter and a serie of -6 dB/oct high-pass (DC blocking) filters produces when applied to a perfect square wave.

These are obviously not sine-wave segments as noted by Otto. In Otto's case these sine-wave segments "swallow" (replace) MOSFET discharges, they do not look like a filter.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #85 on: April 13, 2008, 10:22:40 AM »
@aleks

Simply put, I am not trying to replicate otto's sines. Otto is a bright and resourceful individual whom has his own ideas he is testing. However, I am trying to duplicate what is seen in a video of a small 6" unit, which has no room for complicated massive power sources, or for that matter vacuum tube circuitry. I am trying to replicate SM's unit. SM's unit had to be battery driven, with a VERY small area for oscillator/driver circuit storage. No huge heatsinks are evident which demonstrates conclusively that this unit cannot be a high current circuit driving mosfets. Mosfets come in many flavors, and not all are high current. SM merely remarked that mosfet's or tubes are necessary for their characteristics. However, the small 6" was obviously NOT sine/tube based. If it used sines, they were made with simple compact circuitry, and relatively low voltage/current. I am starting with the square wave approach, and will progress to whatever is necessary within the above parameters if it does not work as mentally envisioned.

I do not understand your reference as to the relevance of the filter. What does it matter what the waves resemble, if they can accomplish the job necessary???? (I am lost on that one, as I do not see the relevance. I think it must be merely a misunderstanding.)

@otto

Please understand that I am not in any manner "dissing" or insulting you with my words above. Much of my current understanding has come from not only SM's words, but your and Roberts efforts, trials, frustrations, and accomplishments, as well as others here such as GK, and Jason, just to name a few. I have respect for you and your accomplishments, and truly would not have the understanding of which I have about this technology and its implications if it were not for your input and concepts.

Thank you.

Paul Andrulis

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« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2008, 10:38:58 AM »
I do not understand your reference as to the relevance of the filter. What does it matter what the waves resemble, if they can accomplish the job necessary???? (I am lost on that one, as I do not see the relevance. I think it must be merely a misunderstanding.)
My idea is that "sine waves" do not come from resonant/reactive behavior of the circuit and its coils. Sine waves appear as a result of some "external" potential field. However, it is circuit that triggers this potential field. This potential field's intensity varies with time and it is this variation that is seen as sine-wave segment. By the way, SM himself tuned his device so that it produces overunity DC current - not a sinewave output. From the vid he also referred to high-freq sinewaves which are of course not really useful for powering applications.


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« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2008, 10:06:28 PM »
My idea is that "sine waves" do not come from resonant/reactive behavior of the circuit and its coils. Sine waves appear as a result of some "external" potential field. However, it is circuit that triggers this potential field. This potential field's intensity varies with time and it is this variation that is seen as sine-wave segment. By the way, SM himself tuned his device so that it produces overunity DC current - not a sinewave output. From the vid he also referred to high-freq sinewaves which are of course not really useful for powering applications.

I will have to think about this. Interesting concept. What potential gradient do you theorize it is acting upon?

Paul

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« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2008, 06:14:11 AM »
Hello all,

@Paul

NO PROBLEM!!

How to say people what to do??Hmmm...

Lets try:

The ECD = "primary" coil + "secondary" coil + Mobius = high voltage
Tesla patent shown a few days ago = primary coil + secondary coil + maybe iron core = high voltage
TPU with tubes = primary coil + secondary coil + Mobius = high voltage

In all mentioned coils is a high voltage.

So, if you look at the 3 stack or the others pictures posted by Mannix you have to wind a primary + a secondary coil and then connect them to get a high voltage. And then pulse this "baby" but be careful because this baby can easily be a beast!!

Otto


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« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2008, 07:04:31 AM »
     When the collector coil intersects the pulse field you are going to get a dc pulse in the collector winding that will be effected by the time it takes for the collector to pass through this field.  The collector will advance through this field (or if you prefer) the field will radiate into the collector winding at a rate independent of your pulse signal wave form.  The gain in the collector is the scource of OU.  It comes from the relavent velocity of the collector and the pulse field.   The pulse energy stays in the spacetime coordinates it was generated in.  Time advances and the collector coil is propelled across these coordinates as fast as the Earth's inertial field can get the collector winding there.
    The main deal here is the pulse being generated in such a way that the electrons in the kick winding have to time to align with the ambient magnetic field not the bow shock magnetic field of the collector.  This is the off tuning SM talked about.  If the pulse compresses this part of the aether and it cuts across the coil again and creates more bow shock and more pulse compression uh oh.
  SONIC BOOM.

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