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Author Topic: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)  (Read 212897 times)

Offline eldarion

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2008, 07:45:00 PM »
Regarding Tesla's patents, I have been looking into them for a little while, but in relation to the MAGVID, not the TPU--these two devices seem to operate on nearly the same principles. 

I am pretty sure that whoever interpreted the MAGVID text got the coil diagram wrong!  I tried it as depicted and no rotating field was set up--it would not even spin a bar magnet.  The correct diagram would seem to be exactly like the TPU and Tesla's patent (and also his Egg of Columbus experiment--see attached)--this altered depiction matches the text perfectly.

I am currently attempting to build the device set forth, but with one difference--Tesla designed that device to run at very low frequencies, around 40-60Hz or so.  If you try to feed higher frequencies into the device, that iron-wire core will start to absorb all the input energy.  I will try two different setups, one air-core (which I don't think will work because the independent fields may not mix properly to set up a rotating field in the middle of the device) and one with a large HF powdered iron core.  Alll will be four-coil, two-phase driven.  After the rotating field is set up properly, I have a bunch of experiments to run on that field, which I'll post here after I do them. :)

Hopefully this way we can clear up a bunch of the hype surrounding fast rotating magnetic fields once and for all! ;D

Eldarion

EDIT: The forum would not let me attach the PDF file here, so here is a link to it: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item31

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2008, 07:45:00 PM »

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2008, 07:58:25 PM »
Hopefully this way we can clear up a bunch of the hype surrounding fast rotating magnetic fields once and for all! ;D
Well, I hope so :) Thanks for your devotion to this topic in general, it's always interesting to see new findings along these lines!


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2008, 08:11:27 PM »
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ALL THREE FREQUENCIES ARE FED INTO A SINGLE WIRE SIMULTANEOUSLY. You will learn why below.

3. How to feed the necessary frequencies to the appropriate coils, and do so using feedback from the output.

This hit me like a thunderbolt. Since the output is pulsed DC, at three frequencies, all that is required to "tap" the output is a blocking diode, with a resistor or thermistor to limit current to the control coils. This IS FED TO A THREE WAY CROSSOVER, which splits one signal into three, and routes said signals to the appropriate control coil inputs!!!!!!!!!!

I THOUGHT THAT STUPID "CONTROL" IN THE CENTER OF THE 17" TPU LOOKED FAMILIAR!

The oscillator circuits feed three mosfets, each connected by matched resistors to positive, fed through diodes into a single wire into the crossover. ALL TPU CIRCUIT GROUNDS ARE SHARED.
 

SM flips 2 switches on the SM17 stating freq 1, freq 2.
I got to know.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2008, 08:25:26 PM »
Why not just take a 3-phase motor and replace its rotor with a coil? Guess it won't work, because this overunity FX is not about rotating mag field. Rotating mag field may cause ether inertia effects to manifest, but do you really think it produces electric potential higher than what you have on your coils?

When I read this something just clicked about the (mythical Pierce Arrow) car that Tesla had a 'specially' built electric motor. What if the motor coils were actually wound like a TPU and the 'control' box of vacuum tubes generated the frequencies and timing. This would be equivalent to the spinning compass inside the TPU showing a magnetic vortex but on a much larger scale. Just something to think about.


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2008, 08:45:54 PM »
   Instead of winding three control windings covering different portions of the tpu od would it work out better to have three windings wound around the whole circumference that are next to each other.  Route the feed from the pass filter so that there is a directional shift of energy with each set of turns representing a pole.

Could be quickly run with 3 lead ribbon cable.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2008, 08:45:54 PM »
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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2008, 09:02:53 PM »

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2008, 09:29:37 PM »
This may explain the kicks:
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/indkick.html
I do not see caps in Otto's schematic whereas the above explanation is based on capacitor?

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2008, 02:05:51 AM »
   Instead of winding three control windings covering different portions of the tpu od would it work out better to have three windings wound around the whole circumference that are next to each other.  Route the feed from the pass filter so that there is a directional shift of energy with each set of turns representing a pole.

Could be quickly run with 3 lead ribbon cable.

--giantkiller.

   Yes or 6 ribbon with 6 oscillators and two 3channel crossovers.  Frequency one and frequency two.

@ Paul
     You recognized a device/devices SM used.  Would it be the 2 identical looking devices in the center of his big TPU?

   Another thing I notice when SM is taking his meter readings is that they read at all.  I get my digital amprobe near anything with acoustic frequency and it goes nuts as well as the rack shack multimeter from the 90's.    A quick test for a bad rectifier bridge or shorted winding in an automotive alternator is to put an ac ammeter around the output lead at full load and read the amount of dc ripple,  but most alternators are putting out at about 400hz.  At 5khz the meter just starts beeping and scrolling jibberish.  My digital multimeter starts doing the same and I haven't even touched the leads.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2008, 02:43:03 AM »
Man without the snazzi equipments and scopes or oscillators I suppose I am at a loss...

I wish this were able to be tested without all that equipment so I too could join in I aint no EE but I've done some soldering and can figure out somethings as I go.


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2008, 03:45:36 AM »
@All

If brushes make spikes and I know we talked about this Bedini's coil always had best resalts with spikes
not waves or squares but quick spikes

That is probably why noise is good

Nick

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2008, 03:51:14 AM »
I keep bringing people to the edge of a cliff - hoping they will jump - they never do.

If they did jump - they would see that  there was no cliff  - it is only an illusion - and they wuld be free from it.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2008, 04:13:54 AM »
 yep   ::)


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2008, 06:05:28 AM »
> First, I thunk I have had a mental breakthrough, and so I shall share the concept. IT IS BASED UPON MR MARKS OWN WORDS... IE the clues were there all along.

Indeed, it was there all along... I made the same discovery weeks ago. I am watching this website for a month or two and I was doing my own research on my own. My original plan was to finish my research then document everything from the first steps to the last when I have something in my hand. However, as I can see that it has changed a little bit since you created this topic, but not quite well... :-) There are also many things that I can add to the above mentioned thoughts, or solving the "self destruction effect" or isolate the radiation issues, work around the legal problems with UEC, make it more secure, more simple, etc.

When I first read what you guys are doing and watched the videos I had something else in my head that I wanted to disclose at once. Hopefully it will tell you more, but I found a topic where another guy did the same and others were a bit nasty with him why sharing his ideas without photos, videos or other "evidences". (Why? However, as far as I can remember he was very close to that I wanted to share with you) So I changed my mind and I decided to leave you with your ideas and I will make my experiment on my own and I will disclose everything when I have the necessary experiments to talk about.

I am very sorry that I couldn't join the team months or years earlier. I just found this website about 2 months ago and it was a long time to study all your posts (there is a lot) to understand what you are guys doing. Then I discovered a topic where somebody collected Mr Mark's own words and later I found a pdf and eventually the famous "TPU-FAQ" that people eager to refer to but neither google nor yahoo nor other search engines could dig up by these keywords. :-D

Anyway, I was keep reading your posts and I have to be honest: I am feeling ashamed because I still don't understand what these "double loops" or other things are. People were talking about Tesla coils, pulses, gaps, rotating fields the first thing flashed into my brain is stepper motors, but I didn't want to "step" forward and dabble in anything until I read everything and understood the basic concepts.

Then a miracle... Suddenly I found Mr. Mark's "first" description (unfortunately I didn't even know that it exists out here) about his continuous "Tesla pulses" and rotating magnetic field.

It made perfect sense to me related to my stepper-motor-idea. My second thought was an online supplier to order a few various of stepper motor drivers. They have been already made for making rotating magnetic fields by pulses.

However then I read many stepper motor driver data sheets I didn't find them customizable for research tasks. I was missing alterable overlapping, variable number of phases, wide frequency range, etc. I was calculating with max 10 phases I want to try out such a device around 100MHz master frequency to acquire 10MHz on each channel. I was inquiring at the manufacturer, the fastest they had was for 30MHz. I didn't want to mess the time to wait for other orders if they fail. Therefore I decided to build one from logic gates thus I can vary them and be sure if the frequencies are always synchronized - as they are always with stepper motor drivers.

There were some problems wont let me still. Self destruction, radiation, safety requirements, usage in practical applications and the difficulty to make it (yes it is still overcomplicated).

The best way to investigate, read again the closest we have as many times as possible: The Inventors Words. Thus I read Mr Mark's words again related to that certain 5kHz DC and the frequencies and his posts again carefully.

The first question arose Gentleman: why is it getting RAPIDLY hot? I mean RAPIDLY as it's been described.

The second: What would happen to a combustion engine if the ignition is too late or too early? If it is in delay the combustion will not be perfect, the semi-burned gasses will leave the combustion chamber, the power we put out is reduced. What would happen if it is too early? The "knocking" engine effect because the combustion starts before the piston is beginning to move down by inertia and it's trying to make some space to itself by moving the piston. Then power loss and rapid overheating follows. Yes, rapid overheating...

Gentleman,

I can not imagine any combustion motor that can be driven precisely with any "external" ignition system that's just roughly synchronized even at low revolution. At some types of engines only a half of degree can cause significant change in the power or heat dissipation or either capable to stop or destroy the engine.

Then just think of that what can be the speed of our electrons in our TPUs... and they are being driven by our inaccurate oscillators... I am not wondering they're destroying themselves after awhile.

I started studying the videos again and listening carefully each words and even the small information. He mentioned that the output voltage is varying. This can be attributed to the above mentioned effect, when your electrons are running in your wire at high speed, their driving pulses are coming a bit behind them accelerating them with others and once in their happiest moments a stupid solid state oscillator's starting to hit them in the intermediate phase or worse, before. Your high speed electrons will impact where they can, in your wires.

This can also explain what happened to the TV (Mr Mark has mentioned a TV explosion in his email). The control electronics went out of phase (certainly poor design) and happened what had to happen. All the high speed electrons found metal objects.

Yes, I am careful but hesitating a with the statement that this device maybe doesn't need the Earth to operate, merely interfering with Earth's magnetic field when we think that the anomalies are caused by the Earth itself. (e.g. upside-down-problem) What I think this device is a particle accelerator where we make electron flows by pulses, waves or whatever.

Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCHPo3EA7oE
(note the video after 2:00)

I don't know that if these "kicks" have anything to do with Earth's magnetic field, but for example our switched-mode power supplies are working by the Earth's magnetic field? We have many devices far from Earth. Do they use this concept in any part?

Ok, this is it for now, it is 4:38 in the morning, I have to go to sleep. I'll come back tomorrow to continue with probably more exciting thoughts.

I don't know if I told anything new yet, but certainly I will tomorrow and in the next couple of days when I completed some other experiments.

I don't want to puzzle anybody if they are walking on their own way, it is never a problem. The more creative people, the more aspects, the more we can use or either throw out. The matter is, here we can find each others thoughts that we can add to or remove from. Think in that whether how many friends Tesla had who helped him to work out so many invents he had?

Gentleman, my request would be, let us use each others knowledge without insulting each other, this is our unique advantage. :-)

Kind Regards
Tony

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2008, 06:48:29 AM »
aye men to that one Tony....

Interesting story I read ...Related? You Decide...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4PRN/is_2008_Feb_4/ai_n24246751



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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2008, 08:01:52 AM »
Hey guys, this is an interesting subject and I'm confused on so many things.  Firstly, I've "mixed" two signals together before, I got a beat pattern.  I'm not sure what three signals mixed on the same line would do but I assume it would be similar to a screwed up beat pattern?  Anyway, I've also taken a quartz crystal resonator (QCR) and driven it with overtones (harmonics I guess would be the more correct term) and what I call "undertones", which are "sub-harmonics?" of the resonant frequency (i.e. res freq = 5k, first undertone = 2.5k).  The QCR would ring to both over and under tones, but the fundamental had the highest amplitude.  My point is, is this what you are trying to do?  How do these waves look like a phase shift?  A phase shift is completely different from a signal mixing - right?  I do know that phase shifts will cause standing waves, adding another frequency to a standing wave will cause it to be a moving standing wave (aka the nodes will no longer be fixed).  I am pretty stupid so could you explain what mixing the signals will do?  Are you doing what I did with a QCR but with a coil? Hitting it with 3 harmonic frequencies and trying to get it to ring?  Although you guys said there were 3 coils, so do all 3 coils get fed the same three frequencies or is each coil at a different frequency and their magnetic fields are what mixes?  Gah, so confused! ???

Also, I was reading that your trying to tune your coils so they resonate better and are matched with the wavelength of the frequency.  I know a little bit about this.  Firstly, a coil whose self capacitance is equal to its self inductance will not "ring".  The two cancel each other out and it becomes like a dead, smooshy log (no Q factor at all).  I'm not exactly sure what Tesla was doing prior to 1899 (I've read the patent you've referred to about spiral coils) but he latter changed his way of thinking in Colorado Springs.  If you want your coils to "ring" like a bell - electrically of course - you'll make them all inductance with as little self capacitance and wire resistance as possible.  That way, they will act more like a perfect inductor, have a sharp Q factor, and really sing to whatever frequency their tuned for.  If you match their wire length to fractions of the driving wavelength, you can turn them into electrical resonant cavities (like a someone said earlier being like a guitar and bouncing waves within themselves).  But in order for signals to bounce around they need to be an open circuit or have an impedance mismatch between the coil and whatever its connected to.  At 5kHz, I would imagine the wire lengths would have to be huge (~9miles for a quarter wavelength)! 

I don't really know anything about what your trying to do, maybe high self capacitance is something you want.  I'm only trying to help in that last paragraph since you guys were talking about making your coils ring.  I'm probably misunderstanding what you were talking about though.

Charlie

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