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Author Topic: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...  (Read 45471 times)

mscoffman

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2009, 04:35:24 PM »

One interesting possibility; Use a 48Vdc converted Bedini Computer Fan
(with no fan circuitry) with it's two coils located 90 degrees apart running
two diode bridges charging a capacitor...As both the generator and central
pivot point of a (spiral) magnetic motor...The 48Vdc fan generator should
keep the generated voltage rather high, like maybe in the 6-12Vdc range

Use gradient accent method of sorting magnets in the spiral field from
weakest to strongest to help pull the rotor through the field.

When the wheel gets to the sticky spot have an electronic wall
clock mechanism (the kind that runs for a year or more on one
carbon/zinc battery) slowly drive a plastic tire with friction on the wheel,
through the sticky spot. When the wheel is rotated past the sticky spot
the tire looses friction on the wheel and the wheel spins around freely
to the sticky stop again.

Couple the generator capacitor to the clock motor to run it. 

As long as the clock mechanism can generate sufficient torque and hang
together, the 1.5Vdc motor mechanism should be highly efficient and
the generator should not be so bad either. Seems perpetual to me.

:S:MarkSCoffman
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Poit

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Re: Flash Magnet Ball
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2010, 12:31:18 PM »
I honestly don't see why the below picture can't be scaled up, and in turn be over unity?. If you think about it, the length of the track doesn't matter. Say if you had a track 10 metres long and it curled up 10 metres back to the starting point, and along the track you had coils to pick up electricity... then when it gets back to the start, use that electricity generated to power a solenoid to push the ball back into its starting position, and any excess electricity you can use for what ever. this concept would be highly impracticable for the amount of electricity, but for me, i don't care about practicality, i only care about proving the existence of OU

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shylo

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2010, 01:35:25 AM »
you have to use ramps built in a circle ...........perfectly timed with the oncoming magnet on the rotor.......at the perfect height.......so gravity can be put to its' best use.....also have a magnet above  the oscilating (up & down) magnet drive,.... to help it through the "sticky spot"..........timing is crucial..........been working on this for twenty years now .....I've almost got it down ...........but close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.........if I get it to work you people will be the first to know........shylo
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2012, 09:38:47 PM »
Hello fellos.
Weekend workshop.
Thats have to get running well. Chain is iron metal and also the teeth rings, better will be SS chain and SS teeht rings. but have to buy in next week.
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2012, 09:44:06 PM »
littlebit more
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2012, 09:46:28 PM »
few videos too if not too large..
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2012, 09:48:52 PM »
more
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2012, 09:51:41 PM »
more
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2012, 09:53:14 PM »
and more :D
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DreamThinkBuild

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2012, 10:27:53 PM »
Hi Thing,

Awesome work. That last video looks like if you can get the bottom row going it will really start to pull. Hopefully many magnets or longer track can overcome the inherent sticky spots in these ramp designs. Lots of variables to play with.
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Pirate88179

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2012, 10:46:27 PM »
Thing:

Very interesting design there.  I wish you the best with it and am looking forward to watching your progress.

Bill
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gadgetmall

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2012, 03:13:36 AM »
Quote from: mscoffman on October 03, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
One interesting possibility; Use a 48Vdc converted Bedini Computer Fan
(with no fan circuitry) with it's two coils located 90 degrees apart running
two diode bridges charging a capacitor...As both the generator and central
pivot point of a (spiral) magnetic motor...The 48Vdc fan generator should
keep the generated voltage rather high, like maybe in the 6-12Vdc range

Use gradient accent method of sorting magnets in the spiral field from
weakest to strongest to help pull the rotor through the field.

When the wheel gets to the sticky spot have an electronic wall
clock mechanism (the kind that runs for a year or more on one
carbon/zinc battery) slowly drive a plastic tire with friction on the wheel,
through the sticky spot. When the wheel is rotated past the sticky spot
the tire looses friction on the wheel and the wheel spins around freely
to the sticky stop again.

Couple the generator capacitor to the clock motor to run it. 

As long as the clock mechanism can generate sufficient torque and hang
together, the 1.5Vdc motor mechanism should be highly efficient and
the generator should not be so bad either. Seems perpetual to me.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Hi . I just happen to have one or two right infront  of me . :) have you tried it ?

Its a good idea . a few spins to charge them up and should work . these fans are amazing and i still have my 48v setup that fausto replicated that runs itself off the 12 volts and keeps it charged. I also am a watch repair person .(used to be and still do for the family) i have Tons of Boliva watchs all kinds with motors . could use a cell phone motor and a small reed in place of them . I will try this . all i need is a small reed to see if it will pull from the ring magnet in that fan.Might have an extra window alarm set over at the other place in storage...

The Thing - Very nice . Maybe you can incorporate some lever to move the drive magnet at the sticky spot.


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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2012, 08:24:17 PM »
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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2012, 11:06:57 PM »
Or follow the White Rabbit :)

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Thing

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2012, 11:43:17 PM »
Raw pictures with google scetchup.
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