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Author Topic: New GE3GE Water gravitation wheel ?  (Read 18756 times)

MEDIA-DESIGN PPG

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Re: New GE3GE Water gravitation wheel ?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2009, 11:42:33 PM »
New sites about GE3GE:
www.ge3ge.com & www.ge3ge.ba
 ;)

Obelix

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Re: New GE3GE Water gravitation wheel ?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2009, 10:30:19 AM »
HI all,

This patent seems a copy of :
Mikhail Smeretchanski's Perpetual Motor - France Patent #2830575, 2003. "This invention relates to a device allowing the mechanical production of energy, using the variable-volumes elements by the gravitation and the Archimedes force for its operation."

Any comment ?

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exnihiloest

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Re: New GE3GE Water gravitation wheel ?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2009, 11:42:44 AM »
...This patent seems a copy of :
Mikhail Smeretchanski's Perpetual Motor - France Patent #2830575, 2003. "This invention relates to a device allowing the mechanical production of energy, using the variable-volumes elements by the gravitation and the Archimedes force for its operation."

Any comment ?

Obelix

The patent is as stupid as all other perpetual wheels that I have already seen.
The author does not take account for the work needed for changing the volume of the variable-volume elements, yet this energy is the extra-energy that he thinks he could recover for free!

Same stupidities in the link given by gyulasun (http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO9853199&F=0):
the water pressure exerts forces against the volume elements when they enter in the water tank but the author is expecting to freely recover this energy that must be provided for the volume elements to penetrate the tank.

Such claims of perpetual motion are said to be compatible with the laws of physics (only the energy conservation principle would be in question). But if the laws of physics apply, the equations of mechanics too, in particular the lagrangian that can describe the system, and this implies that energy is conserved.

In conclusion such patent claims would have interest if they assert either that physics laws does not apply (archimede, gravity, magnetism etc... fail) and/or that there is an hidden energy source.
In all other cases we can discard them immediately, saving time for more realistic projects.

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2010, 01:25:09 AM »