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Offline FatBird

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 10:20:49 PM »
Cliff says TPU wires get COLD.


http://dallastexas.net/PinkyAndTheBrain/archive/00000454.htm

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There was a question about the coil in the plates moving around.

I attached some peices of tape on the bottom of the coil windings to hold it in place at several areas.
The wire was enameled in most cases, as I bought a roll of it at radio shack.  There were probably at least a hundred turns.  I would wrap it around something round (a broomstick worked) to get it its shape, but it did expand after being taken off. I had difficulty getting it to stay put, so I used tape at about one inch intervals to hold down one curl of coil to the plate.

The rest were held with the one, not exactly circular (Im nitpicking for clarity, but it was round...as close as I could get.)  The first ones had the coil extended a little over the edge of the plate, about 1/3 of the width of the coil.  When enclosed, the whole coil was inside the plate's edge. Worked both
ways.

Sometimes I put the spools that the wire came on in the center of the plates to hold them apart. 2 worked well.  Sometimes I used a cardboard peice cut from a cereal box to hold it up.  These methods were unsteady, so I finally enclosed it in the clear plexiglass tube that was 10" wide. It was a quarter inch thick, and I used a dremel to cut a 1/8 inch gouge, or inside cut, around the inside diameter.

I could then put the plates (9 3/4 inches) INSIDE THE INSIDE DIAMETER of the quarter inch thick plexiglass tube. This wass soon covered with a 10 inch dick of plexiglass, so that this "inside the tube" plate was covered at each end.  The leads of the wire only came out about a half inch, and I had thick, brass "alligator" clips (flat jawed clamps, actually) attached to the ends of these leads, which I could hook to heavier wires that actually carried the current to the load. They were thin wires, and I had to be careful not to break them off.

As I sated, the plates were covered with the plastic disk, but I had a small hole in the center so that I could insert the high voltage input leads to initiate the device.  I had to initiate the device with a load attached each time with the high voltage. The coil was essentially held in place (by the tape), and
I was careful to not jar it around.

One time I went to hook up the load, (before the HV DC initiation process) and the light on the instant heat soldering iron came on when the clips were attached to the plug leads. No outside power. It got hot.  I had a heart attack!

I did not move it more than I had to, and it maintained this condition until I hooked it to ground, when it went poof...  When I hooked it to ground, there were to brass rods that I had drilled a hole into the ends of. They were about 15" long. I put screws into the holes, hooked 12 guage wire taken from an old peice of flexible conduit, and tightened them down.  I drove the rods into the Earth (ground was moist) and hooked up the clips. I wanted to see if the wires would smoke.(the 12 GA.) I knewthat
they would, and thought that my coil would be OK, as I had got very hot 12 GA. leads before, and nothing happened to the coil. But not so in this case.

The insulation burned off, they smoked and smoked, glowed red, and poof!  The coil and the leads were engulfed in what seemed to be plasma, and just werent there. It made an arcing sound. I tried to smell for ozone, but only smelled burned plastic.  The plexiglass was on fire (just a little) around the hole where the output leads came out.

I am not saying that I know what happened, guys, but I NEVER FOUND THE LEADS! I LOOKED AND LOOKED, BUT COULD NOT FIND THEM. TAKE THIS ANY WAY YOU WANT, BUT THEY JUST WERENT THERE.  Now that I have said this, I will tell you a little more on the theory side, so you will KNOW THAT I AM TELLING THE TRUTH.  I can tell you how to get the effect everytime, without fail... but it is a little more involved...  I did not tell this part to the group, because it is something that I have not done, yet. I dont have the resources, and wanted to wait until I did.

I did not lie, though. The device can work exactly as I said, only it is "stubborn". You can achieve the exact same results...  But this method would be more precise. I am sharing this because I trust all of you. This has not been done by me, BUT IT WILL WORK! EVERY TIME!  If you think about it, you will see.  This would take money and time that I dont have, so I will delegate it to the group... Who can do this first? I dont want money, I want to see it done. It doesnt have to be done by me. We have been a team, and lets keep it that way...

I now ask you to think about this... and do it if you can... If I am wrong, as J. Snell so eloquently put it, you will let me know...  The temperature coefficient is not a random phenomena. I did notice that the lead clips, in retrospect, were cold on occasion...  I am saying that I induced a state of lossless power transfer which only takes place , so far as we know, in a superconductive condition. These conditions are brought about by extremely low temperatures, as we all know.  If I am, as I believe, causing a "sledding" effect between the plates, and tapping the aetheric vortex and magnetic flux simultaneously, then this is a condition that occurs under cold conditions.

What if the cold nature of Floyd Sweets device, and the one in mine, are caused by nature taking on the characteristics of a superconductive device because she has no choice? She must losslessly transfer the energy of the vortex to the coil, as she is forced to by by the coils placed dead center in the path. Will not back emf take great lengths to equalize itself?

If you squeeze a balloon to hard, it will break. I am saying that as the coil is placed in the path, nature manufactures the cold to make the process work, as she HAS NO MORE CHOICE THAN A BURST OF BACK EMF THAT WILL MANUFACTURE A HIGHER VOLTAGE TO ACHEIVE EQUALIZATION IN THE THREAT OF A COLLAPSING FIELD. (or, simply stated, squeezing the ballon and getting higher pressure) So this is it in a nutshell...

Picture a superconductive disk in a cold sufficiently cold environment... "levitating" over a magnet... Is this not a plate of higher potential, suspended over a plate of lower? (the magnet) The difference of potential develops from the magnet, and when it rises, the superconductive plate will spin. (Our vortex, but held open longer, and easier to tap!) The vortex's viscosity take free hanging plate with it...

Just as in my device, the more that you take, the more you will get...  Only this would be a super capacitor... Put the coil in this cold environment, sandwiched between, maintain it, and you would get
unlimited power, just as in my device without the cold...

This goes a long way to explain why a thin coil was able to sustain the high output that melted wire much thicker down the line...  You now know all that there is to know... no loss on superconductive
plates, no loss on this easy to catch vortex doorway to the aether, only loss on the output load which is what we want for transfer of power, but that would be down the line, in my girlfriends curling iron or something similar.

I know this works, as I have seen it. You have all helped me understand what I have seen.  It remains to be proven (not for long, knowing you guys) whether this supercapacitor would stay cold on its own, provided the circuit stayed loaded, but only in practice. I know in my head and heart that it would...

The next step is to decide whether to keep playing with crude methods that do work if only temperamentally, or to really get this thing going in a big way.  I have openly shared all that I have now, even my dreams and goals for this thing.  Now the ball is in your collecive courts... any critique of the theory?  And what should we do next?

Cliff

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 10:20:49 PM »

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2008, 01:11:55 AM »
Cliff,
I am following this thread only because of my work with pulse motors. I found that by putting a pickup coil loosely in the ckt but isolated, I can use a stepup transformer to give me up to 40 KV. This can be rectified by either half wave or full to apply to the plates. So I guess my question to you is.., does this aether effect happen for you on demand or does IT demand the perfect geometry?
Got me thinking!

Carl

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Offline FatBird

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2008, 02:31:48 AM »
Carl,

Please post a picture of your Coil - Motor Setup.


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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2008, 02:04:51 PM »
FB

You'll find it in the Pulsed Motor section but here it is again.
If you can make it out, the coil and transformer are on the lower right. It could easily provide the pulsed HVDC for those plates.
So what happened with this device? Did everyone give up? The thread you linked us too is from 1998?
Would still like to know more about the particular setup as it sounds like there may be some potential there.

Carl


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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2008, 04:14:06 PM »
    This is an interesting device.  It is like an oscillator with the inductor inside the capacitor. The capacitor and inductor therefore are magnetically coupled.

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2008, 05:37:27 PM »
@Sparks
HUH?
The pic is my pulse/Bedini SSG setup and I'm picking off the BEMF for charging two batteries. It merely keeps two batteries fully charged and yes I then rotate the supply to the charge. What I was saying was this. By simply putting a steel (hollow core) pickup coil near those spinning magnets I can produce anything from 1V to 20V which in turn would feed the step up transformer. Transformer low turns side being fed by coil, High turns side produces a HV wave form. Since the topic of this thread is Cliffs' Vortex and it doesn't require high power, I was just wondering out loud if this HV could be used to create the vortex? Of course it would be rectified before hitting the plates.

Carl

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2008, 06:44:08 PM »
  @Casman

     Sorry I was talking about Cliff''s setup.  I posted a picture below of what I think it is configured as.


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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2008, 07:02:36 PM »
@sparks
Sorry.
That is the configuration I got out of it also. There is mention of possibly putting the coil on an angle inside the plates. Will get the disks soon as I can as I REALLY want to play with it.
Have read many of your posts with interest.., keep it up.

Carl

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2008, 08:13:25 PM »
I was reading this thread and wondered if a piece of coax cable would do the trick for the upper and lower plates? hummm...

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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2008, 11:26:11 PM »
Hey Guys:

I've been playing with this thing since I first posted my setup.  I've tried both polarities on the plates and let all the different setups run for almost 2 hours each. My coil has been centered between the two plates, touching the bottom , and also touching the top.  I've tried different spacing between the plates from 1'' to 6". I've installed all kinds of loads from a resistor to various bulbs of all kinds of voltage.

I STILL GET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OUT OF IT, NOT EVEN A FRACTION OF MILLIVOLT.

Here's hopping you guys can do better !

Regards
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2008, 03:09:22 PM »
I've read through those 1998 posts and it seems like no-one has had much success. I would offer a slight change to get the ball rolling.., Spiral a pancake  magnet wire on to at least one plate and feed the HV to it. Thinking it might help get the vortex started. Has anybody tried this arrangement?

Carl

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2008, 10:54:55 PM »
I was reading this thread and wondered if a piece of coax cable would do the trick for the upper and lower plates? hummm...
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Please elaborate on that StarCruiser.  Do you mean keep wrapping the coax around in a circle?


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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2008, 01:03:20 AM »
   I was wondering if the plexiglass should be around the whole setup. Could the polycarbonates be acting as a semiconductor?  SMs' early tpu's had polycarbonate discs in them.  This would make it necessary to have plastic between the plates and the coil. I think it is necessary to create a machine that uses energy input to create a low energy area and capture the energy going in and out to perpectuate the low energy area and drive the load.
  The dc pulse energy keeps on creating a positive charge within the tube and the plastic won't let it back in so the coil is the only way in.  I stripped down an old monitor yesterday and was using the flyback to power up a couple of aluminum plates.  This voltage is dangerous!  I reversed the coil and put the highvoltage on the bottom (too close to a metal bench) and arcs started flying out of the receptacle the monitor was plugged into.

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2008, 01:48:31 AM »
@Fatbird, yes in a loop over and under the wire torrid, not around it, then pulse from one end only, directional charge flow is what I was thinking. Orientate the coax wire loops (like a loop antenna) over and under the torrid like the aluminum plates. You could try hooking up the wires from the same end or to opposite ends (different wires of course) and see what you get. Just something that came to mind while reading this thread. I would like to try this but do not have the time due to work right now. So I thought I would share the idea...


I was reading this thread and wondered if a piece of coax cable would do the trick for the upper and lower plates? hummm...
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Please elaborate on that StarCruiser.  Do you mean keep wrapping the coax around in a circle?


Thanks.

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Re: AETHER VORTEX TPU
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2008, 03:23:17 PM »
   I was wondering if the plexiglass should be around the whole setup. Could the polycarbonates be acting as a semiconductor?  SMs' early tpu's had polycarbonate discs in them.  This would make it necessary to have plastic between the plates and the coil. I think it is necessary to create a machine that uses energy input to create a low energy area and capture the energy going in and out to perpectuate the low energy area and drive the load.
  The dc pulse energy keeps on creating a positive charge within the tube and the plastic won't let it back in so the coil is the only way in.  I stripped down an old monitor yesterday and was using the flyback to power up a couple of aluminum plates.  This voltage is dangerous!  I reversed the coil and put the highvoltage on the bottom (too close to a metal bench) and arcs started flying out of the receptacle the monitor was plugged into.

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Good points Sparks.  Maybe you are right, that the Plexiglass tube keeps the Aether in & helps it to spin?



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