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I am not sure about this but what I am seeing is the 2 neg plates are surrounded by positive plates. So I think my solution would be to move the left negative plate to the right side so these 2 neg. plates are together. Then add a positive plate to the outside right

So what I would have is:
Positive/Negative-Negative/ Positive/Negative-Negative/ Positive/Negative-Negative/Positive

But still I am not sure this will solve the issue. But I will try this on Saturday

could it be that the 2 neg plates are acting in series so your pulling twice the current through them than through the single neg plates and accordingly creating more H in that area of the circuit?

have you checked how John Arrons on youtube is doing it, he has tons of different configurations in videos posted.



edit- i just checked their site and it reads:

We set up
our plates in this configuration and it seems to work quite well.
( - N N N + N N N -) Center plate is positive. Outside plates are negative. The "N" stands for neutral, these plates don't electrically hook up to anything, just in the way of the current, in which lowers the voltage to 2-3 volts between the plates. The lower voltage keeps from cooking the electrodes and causing cell clean out once a month.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

Current flow always follows the path of least resistance and I think the two pairs of neg plates that are surrounding the center pos plate are reinforcing each other to create an imbalance of resistance in the cell. Intuition tells me that to get even production on the plates requires an even distribution of pos and neg which will result in even distribution of the resistance.

This effect may be less pronounced in a high voltage, low current pulsed cell but more pronounced in this type of brute force electrolysis cell.


I'm no expert on hydrogen production but I did stay in a Residence Inn last night.

I've seen pretty much the same effect but higher up when using single plates and both cathode and anode fed from the top.

Bring both power sources in from the bottom, and it appears to go away, thats the funny part about it, it doesn't, the reaction just moved closer to the opposing poles and with the riser/chimney effect and the gases going upward, it appears even. The resistance should gain as both poles get farther away from their starting point at a pretty even rate.

I believe your seeing a combination of a few things, electricity taking the least path of resistance with the positive/negative at their strongest with the least resistance being midway, theres no other way for it to happen. If it was stronger at the top, it would mean the resistance on the bottom would be high and that can't happen. If it was stronger at the bottom the farthest point for the other opposing pole it would mean its resistance is higher at its starting point.
This can happen, but an improbability when using the same composite, thickness, spacing and electrolyte.

darbee63

the plates were sanded with cross hatch. I want to try move to sand blast but not yet. I am using PVC pipe 14" high. 4" diameter. Plates are now 11" high. .028 thick SS and 3.5" wide.

The bubbles are very tiny and clouds the water on start up. space about .08

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2909000-2909999/2909782_9_full.jpg)

this was assembly for +/-/+/- design

bolt going through positive plates

My connections are at the top. I thought about what you are saying. Move the connections to the bottom. But at the moment that is not easy Given the space I have.

I am looking for the 1lm mark given the size of my engine.

I am not very familiar about a neutral plates. And I have not seen that much info on it.

At the moment this is my own design which what I can see is not working all that well