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Author Topic: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg  (Read 185695 times)

Offline LoganBaker

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2008, 11:33:54 PM »
Hello Willy,
Yes it seems they took most of the site down.
There is some info in this document:
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=mjjcqbkrotf

However, how the thing is connected and controlled is never told/shown

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Logan

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2008, 05:06:31 PM »
Hello all...I am Bulgarian and it's my pleasure joining to this forum. Soory for my bad English.  :) You discuss about the Bulgarian MEG, I see...Yes, it is really working, but unfortunately the project is commercial and there is strongly restricted information abot it. We also have site about Free Energy in Bulgaria...http://forum.beinsa.info/index.php?topic=275.0...and there is a greate information about MEG design. Unfortunately the language is Bulgarian, but some diagrams and pictures are maybe in use. Now we develop MEG construction on ferrite cores and high frecuence of 20-30kHz and   COP=1.1. I believe that COP=2 soon. ;) There are pictures and diagrams in the topic of MEG and you can see them.
Best greetings and success to all... ;D


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2008, 05:28:25 PM »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2008, 07:16:05 PM »
An English version of simulation...and a photo of my version of MEG.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 07:45:55 PM by Getca »


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2008, 08:01:31 PM »
Has anyone considered using the special bifilar coil on the meg posted here.

This one;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.msg132767#msg132767


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2008, 08:01:31 PM »
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Offline Nali2001

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2008, 10:57:55 PM »
Hi there Getca and welcome!
Great to see some people working on this system.
You ever tried to contact Mr. Ivanov from Inkomp-Delta himself?
And if so did he ever give out some useful info, they say he is a nice helpful guy?

Could you PLEASE give me/us an 'global idea' what he is saying in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFVaeSbk1Q

And VERY PLEASE also for this video especially:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IP-buFHKKU
Is he describing anything 'specific' regarding the oscilloscope shot and maybe the driving technique?

Well maybe you can understand what is said in this video?
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Boday/tiltott_talalmanyok_cutted.avi

Thanks,
Steven

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 12:04:05 AM »

Well maybe you can understand what is said in this video?
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Boday/tiltott_talalmanyok_cutted.avi

Thanks,
Steven

Hi Steven,

The person in that video was Árpád Boday, a Hungarian inventor / replicator of a MEG.  Unfortunately, he died of cancer and the setup he showed in the video was not found by his friends (i.e. György Egely for instance).
Boday, however, tried to build a bigger setup, based on his experiments but he could not finish it due to his illness. His friends tried to continue building his bigger setup after his death but unfortunately, I have no any further news on that, probably it was unsuccessful.
The report's text is here:
Boday: The phenomena is exceptionally interesting. Input voltage is zero now and here these electric bulbs are lit.
Reporter: At first you switched something and  a number 107 could be seen?
B: yes, there is a given voltage to start with, then the setup gets excited and the input voltage can be switched off, for instance you see I unplug the connection and the bulbs continue lighting. So this is a completely new phenomena  which now I would not like to talk about.
R:  But I would have one more question: In your setup there are still two 4.5V dry batteries?
B: The two 4.5V dry batteries feed the control electronics only.  If you consider there are 8 light bulbs of 10W power each, altogether they are 80W, and you cannot take out 80W power from two 4.5V dry batteries. I could show you the current coming out from these batteries, it is about 30mA the control circuit consumes.
R: Basically, you change the Law of Energy Conversation with this setup by showing you gain energy from nothing?
B: Well, not from nothing but from permanent magnets: their magnetostatic energy is converted into magnetodynamic energy.  This is all I wished to tell you because this setup needs further experiments and developments to get an extremely well useable and useful device for everybody.
Then the reporter ask a question from another person, not from the above MEG setup: Everybody is called in to show his device to see whether it works?

rgds,  Gyula
« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 12:44:03 AM by gyulasun »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 12:04:05 AM »
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 12:25:18 AM »
http://ep.espacenet.com/advancedSearch       CA2172240                Arpad Boday-Publication

S
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p.s.: never changing the law of conservation: using (getting/giving) temporary Gibbs-Theorem             
                                                                                                              credit/debit units

       also important : Meissner-Ochsenfeld-Effekt
                              Coloumb-Law
                              Ampére-Law
                              Curie-Temperature

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 11:29:28 AM »
Hi Nali2001...
You ever tried to contact Mr. Ivanov from Inkomp-Delta himself?
And if so did he ever give out some useful info, they say he is a nice helpful guy?
I personally don't know Mr. Ivanov, but my friend met him and saw his device working with COP>2. The MEG was not selfpowered. The inventor gave some information about principle of work and the main is using magnetic bypass or switch for flux commutation of permanent magnets.. Magnetic bypass or switch work as a magnetic resistance with a core saturation. The control magnetic flux is closed in the core of the bypass/switch and only PM's flux is commutated to the output. Mr. Ivanov uses resonant circuits for optimal performans.
Abot first two videos the inventor doesn't say any interesting. He just demostrates working device and COP>2. On the first video output power is about 400w and on the second about 1200w. On the third video the inventor speaks Hungarin language and I can't understand anything.
So, the Bulgarian MEG is really working and that is truth... :) The inventor says that he can build 2-10kW device in the future.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2008, 05:26:28 PM »
Hello Getca and thanks for the info.
Saw your friend the actual device or only that box with the unit inside?
The only video's has has shown with the device operating is when the actual device is in the box. I wonder what core configuration he is now using.
It sounds like he is just using 50hz so I guess it is all normal transformer steel. Do you have any oscilloscope shots for his device? I know they were on his website once but now they are gone and I did not save them back then, do you have some? Any idea about how he is driving the thing? I believe on the earlier models he used half wave ac from just one diode. But judging from the 1200watt video he is now using short duty dc pulses in a capacitor resonant system. Must be one serious circuit since it is probably pretty high dc voltage he is putting in. Could be as high as 250vdc. And that at some impressive wattage also, that requires some serious switching circuit.
Anyway about your circuit you showed, is there any specific reason for the series resonant circuit and not parallel resonant? See picture below.

Regards,
Steven

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2008, 08:29:40 PM »
Has anyone here studied the Aharanov-Bohm effect at depth?  

Consider, for example:

http://www.physics.harvard.edu/~dtlarson/tutorial05/lecture6.pdf

Especially pages 42-43.

Phase shifted electron streams interfere with one another.....It seems that, coupled with Bearden's observations, the real juice is to be found in producing sharp edge curl eddies interacting on multiple boundary layers to create a momentary cascade.  At this level, the problems become clear.  Like rectifying a lightning bolt in miniature.  

If Howard Johnson's results, did in fact rely upon producing sustained magnetic pulses of high order, then perhaps what some of us are experiencing is simply the poor man's way of simulating the effects already waiting to be produced in nanomaterials of the correct construction.  It's my guess that this has already been done.  Manufactured materials that produce energy via their interaction with the Aether.  Nanomaterials of the correct construction eliminate many concerns by their highly accurate and lasting nature.

In the mean time, there are numerous ways in which to benefit one's research by experimentation with the nature of the magnetic dipole itself.  

For instance, the much hyped collegiate notion of virtual photon flux quanta streaming solely from N pole to S pole is thoroughly discredited via a number of simple experiments.  Virtual photon streams eminate from both pole and 'knit' or spiral together from both directions creating a closed,symmetrical flux field.

Until such materials, as proposed above, are made available, certainly.....certainly there are ways of inducing sharp edge curl pulses resulting from very low friction rotary magnetic interactions into properly shaped and positioned field coils?

I mean, what we are essentially talking about here, are field compression and expansion dynamics at work.  Consider the amazing parallels between fluid dynamics research and magnetics research....Consider what is occuring in the hydrosonic pump....

I believe it to be not only likely, but perhaps a foregone conclusion that materials science, borne from dynamic systems research, has already greatly surpassed our comparatively meager efforts.  I've also little doubt that such power may be exercised on a grand scale within the next few short years.


How we react to such, will determine much.


The way I've always looked at it is, "Don't be seduced by the results of your own efforts, much less those of someone else."


Stay Real in an increasingly deceptive world,



TS


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2008, 10:54:41 PM »
Hi Steven...The magnetic loops of the actual device are like this in the attached diagram. Yes, he uses a normal transformer steel and a half wave AC from a power diode to drive the control coil. The output resonant circuit is parallel, as I know and C>1000uF/380v AC. There is an usefull PM energy and it helps to reduce DTC. The control and output circuits must work in phase,  otherwise COP deeply decreases. So it isn't easy to build and get a device with optimal COP. But it is possible when the man is patient... ;) and knows what he does. The main principle is to change the magnetic resistance of the switch core and get a PM flux modulation. It is quite different compared to T.Bearden's MEG. This isn't a transformer, because when we remove magnets the output voltage is zero. It's interesting that I get a device working on the same principle at 25kHz using ferrite cores. So the principle works fine and anyone can replicate the MEG.

Wish You soccess...
Rossen


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 06:35:21 AM »
Hello Getca and thanks for the info.
Now don't get this the wrong way but, the last picture in you previous post, is that what he told you he is using, or are you assuming this is what he is using. Especially the switching core parts. It seems like these they are made from E shaped cores. But on his site he is using O shaped or alike, so is there any specific reason for the 3 'pathways' on the switching sections?
And what is DTC?
Your sure he is using half wave ac these days? I mean his scope in the video seems to indicate pulsed dc with a cap on it for resonance.
It indeed seems a very do able project. Instead of ferrite one could easily make something out of a few microwave oven transformers.

Thanks for the info!
Steven

Oh and Gyula. Thanks for that info as well!

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 12:10:52 PM »
Hi Steven...It doesn't matter what core shape is used for the magnetic switch, It's only important to get core saturation and extremally decreasing magnetic resistance. Mr Ivanov uses O-shaped cores, a half wave AC U~35v eff. and a resonant circuit to get a magnetic flux change via swith core. The inventor says DTC~0.3 or time of control impulse is about 4mS as a part of the sinus wave. But when a ferrite is used at high frequency these sinus control impulse isn't possible. I use rectangular shaped impulse to drive the control coil and there is a possibility to change DTC and frequency to get a resonance and increase COP.

Best wishes...
Rossen


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 05:29:02 PM »
And what is DTC?

@Steven

DTC is  Duty Cycle.

@Rossen

Have you seen CHOBANOV VALERI's patent, BG109554, on his INTEGRATING COMMUTATOR OF MAGNETIC FLUXES ?

The online search at the European Patent Office includes only the abstract, here is a link:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?KC=A&date=20070630&NR=109554A&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=BG&FT=D

It may be well worth seeing the Figures at least but if you think it does not give further useful info, well then no need for it?

Don't you know if  Valeri and Ivanov have been working together on the so called 'Bulgarian MEG' ?

Thanks,  Gyula

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