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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2008, 08:57:22 PM »
Luc.
Important .
With way the Bridge is connected inside ?

- AC AC +     (is the usual way)
- AC # AC     (is also used -europ)


Your circuit is possibley used the  2. sort ob rectifier bridges,

BUT for "understand" This circuit and the Working" exactly, WE must know
the right way of the 4 diodes inside the bridge,
Pese

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2008, 10:39:21 PM »
    
Hi all and thanks for looking and your input. I have been busy doing another video with better results and it will answer most of your questions.

I will keep posting updates at my first page of this thread in order to keep it all information at one place instead of all over this thread. So please keep looking at the first page for the latest information and frequently asked questions.

Please go to my 1st Post: "Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet" for the most up to date information.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4124.0/topicseen.html

Thanks

Luc
« Last Edit: February 18, 2008, 12:07:26 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2008, 10:58:16 PM »
Hi Luc,
great second video.

With the 2 magnets you even shut off the current in the transformer coil even faster, so more
BackEMF voltage as the cuttoff of the current is faster thus higher induction voltage and thus more energy inside the cap.

As inductionVoltage = - L x di / dt
as you shorten the switch time dt you get a higher induction voltage.


Did you use the low voltage coil of the transformer or
the 110 Volt side ?
Maybe do you have a scope and can show
the input current at a shunt into the transformer coil ?
But be careful, use at least a 10:1 scope head as
the BackEMF spikes could kill your scope input.
You will probably have around 2000 Volts of Spikes there, so also be cautious
not to touch with both hands each end of the coil !

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Well done.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2008, 11:15:21 PM »
Hi Pese and all,
as I have performed this test also already
with my Newman coil, which I also did post a while
ago here in a Bedini thread
( still have to search for it)
here is enclosed the right polarity that you have to use
for the bridge rectifier.
Many thanks topLuc tobring this up.
Yes,now I see, that you used the secondary lower impedance side
of the transformer, so not the 110 Volts side.
At 17.7 Volts and about 2.5 Ohm
coil resistance, you draw already about 7 amps,
if your inductance is not too big, so the current reaches the
end value of the exponential current curve,
which is CoilCurrent(t)= I(end) x ( 1 - e^t/tau)
which comes out to a momenttariry 125Watts of input power.
Butas you switch fast enough with your pulsing the wire, this
input power level probably will never be reached.
I guess you are having the same effect as
Magnetocaster has used in his older machine
and also Mr. Newman is using in his sparking commutators.

Regards,Stefan.

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 12:09:06 AM »
Yes,now I see, that you used the secondary lower impedance side
of the transformer, so not the 110 Volts side.
At 17.7 Volts and about 2.5 Ohm
coil resistance, you draw already about 7 amps,

Regards,Stefan.

Stefan, you are confusing the new power supply I now use in Test 2 with the transformer I pulse.

@all, please note in both tests, I pulse the same transformer on its primary (110v 2.5 ohms) side. However in Test 2 I used a 12v - 1,200ma power supply instead of the 12v - 7amp in the first video. So please note, even though I used a lower output power supply to pulse the new configuration of 2 neo magnets alternately pulsed N-S, I was able to raise the voltage faster and higher. I have no Ideal of how hi I can go since my cap can only take 200v. I will do Test 3 with a 3.7v 350ma power supply and see how hi I can go with that kind of small input.

Please click: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4124.0/topicseen.html  For most up to date information.

Thanks

Luc
« Last Edit: February 18, 2008, 12:56:23 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 12:13:11 AM »
Second video is not working... it says "This video is unavailable.".

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 01:01:41 AM »
I just tried it on 2 different computers and it worked for me ???

Luc

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2008, 03:40:07 AM »
Yes,now I see, that you used the secondary lower impedance side
of the transformer, so not the 110 Volts side.
At 17.7 Volts and about 2.5 Ohm
coil resistance, you draw already about 7 amps,

Regards,Stefan.

Stefan, you are confusing the new power supply I now use in Test 2 with the transformer I pulse.

all, please note in both tests[/color][/b][/u], I pulse the same transformer on its primary (110v 2.5 ohms) side.
Luc

Hi Luc,
are you sure your primary 110 Volts side of the used transformer has only
got 2.5 Ohms DC resistance ?
Sounds a bit low for the 110 Volts side of such a small transformer...??
I would have expected at least more than 100 Ohm...

What Wattage rating does this transformer  have ? just 5 to 10 Watts ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: 2nd Youtube video works over here too.
Be cautious not to fry the cap with too high voltages !
If you have a graphite pencile ( Normal school pencil)
try this one instead of the copper wire as the electrode
( Just put the copper wire around the graphite rod and brush
with the graphite rod at your magnets.
How is this then ?

Also try to use water droplets at the contact surface, so you
suppress the spark with the water being in the spark gap.
You will see, that it really makes a difference and the voltage
will be much lower as there is not much high voltage oscillation then.

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2008, 03:54:21 AM »
Many thanks topLuc,
if radiant energy is involved here probably you can have more effect including in the ciruit a battery instead of electronic PS, the effect of the battery is well explained in Bedini.

My feeling .. inductance and the battery retard the flow of the current and the magnet is like a barrier ... see Tesla switching devices.

Ciao Marzio

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2008, 03:58:07 AM »
Hi Luc,
are you sure your primary 110 Volts side of the used transformer has only
got 2.5 Ohms DC resistance ?
Sounds a bit low for the 110 Volts side of such a small transformer...??
I would have expected at least more than 100 Ohm...

What Wattage rating does this transformer  have ? just 5 to 10 Watts ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: brush with the graphite rod at your magnets

I am quite sure since the other side (35v) is 1.1 ohm.  I have no ideal of the watts rating of the transformer. I took it out of a switch mode power supply made for a small computer.

I'll try the graphite rod on the magnets.

Luc

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2008, 04:14:01 AM »
here the tesla magnetic spar gap (switch)

Marzio

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2008, 04:27:40 AM »
Thanks wings for your replies and information,

Huum :'( ...too bad Tesla isn't here to explain the difference with what he did with magnets in the spark gap compared to what I'm doing.

Luc

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2008, 04:50:50 AM »
Hi Luc,
you are diverting the spark away from the other electrode it wants to reach,
so you switch off the spark much faster.
This is also what Tesla already invented and so he could have a much better and higher
induction BackEMF voltage from his coils.
The same you are doing now.
The spark is just bend away from your  copper wire and magnet, so the
current goes out much faster and thus you have more charge up
induction voltage inyour cap.

Yes, try with a droplet of water between it and
then also try with just a graphite rod from a pencil
versus the magnet.
Please let us know, what will work best with your setup.
Many thanks.

P.S. What will happen,if you use the other side of the transformer ?
How fast will this coil charge up the cap ?
Probably even faster, right ?

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2008, 04:51:51 AM »
Thanks for the reply gotoluc.

slapper Q: Is there a way for you to check the magnets before and after, maybe even during. I am curious if their strength changes?
A; I will try that later and get back with the results.
slapper Q: I am wondering if you have any different results if you flip your magnet stack and coin assembly upside down and strike the coin at the top with the magnets on the bottom.
A: I tried that and I get the best effect by pulsing the top of the magnet.

I got out my crude version of Gray's conversion tube and stuck a magnetic at the end.
(http://www.phonecotech.com/OverU/GtubeWmag.gif)
I will be testing to see what difference there is with the magnet running a spark through it. No positive results
to share. I think I will replace the steel rod with a copper one. I will get into this in detail some other time and
share results later. I do not want to distract you from Thane's work.

Steven Mark got some of his tpu's going using a magnet in a similar fashion. It might help solve a piece of the
tpu puzzle.

Thanks again and take care.

nap

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2008, 07:15:11 AM »
Stefan

 h20 + carbon + sparck = Nanotubes and fullerenes

Nanotubes = elecron cluster = high  temperature superconductor

Is this the way?

But you add another effect to the actual one.

 Step by step.

Marzio