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Rosphere

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #675 on: January 13, 2008, 08:05:27 PM »
ummmm interesting that if I jam one Stator magnet back so it cannot rotate I can get the Latch very easly.

I am not taking this too seriously till I get the correct Stator magnets, but thx for all the tips and input guys.

Another video too show what I mean  ;D

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch3.wmv



Looking good.  When do you get those new stators again?

rotorhead

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #676 on: January 13, 2008, 08:09:48 PM »
ummmm interesting that if I jam one Stator magnet back so it cannot rotate I can get the Latch very easly.

I am not taking this too seriously till I get the correct Stator magnets, but thx for all the tips and input guys.

Another video too show what I mean  ;D

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch3.wmv


If my ears are not deceiving me, it almost sounded like a brief speed-up when the stator synced AGW. Could you check that?

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #677 on: January 13, 2008, 08:17:15 PM »
Quote from: TheOne
Something you can also try is to spin the rotor with your hand and spin the little one with your air machine, maybe the little one need to spin really fast to start turning on his own

Good idea, will go do that now.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #678 on: January 13, 2008, 08:21:34 PM »
Nice work!!

Are the other two stators doing anything for you at all??

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #679 on: January 13, 2008, 08:21:48 PM »
Well gawd that was boring filming that LOL  ;D ;D

If you get bored again, you could settle another old debate and see if it runs longer with the axle set horizontally.. :P 

Movie on link below Just for you JCIMS!
2 minute gain, Vertical we get 10 minutes 30 seconds Wind Down.

Yay!  Now i just need to wrap the video with one of the old GI Joe cartoon 'now you know' public service announcements. :)

Thanks!

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #680 on: January 13, 2008, 08:24:52 PM »
Hey guys, i had a theory about how this might work, but i do lack alot of knowledge in alot of areas so let me know what you think.

1.  The magnets just get in sync doing the reverse spin on the stator and that keeps it moving.

2.  The stator magnet when doing a reverse spin creates some kind of kinetic energy which passes through the rotor causing the magnets to be pushed along.  Kinda like in a DC motor. 

Well, those are passing thoughts.  Would love to hear others thoughts as well.

Adam

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #681 on: January 13, 2008, 08:27:23 PM »
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Something you can also try is to spin the rotor with your hand and spin the little one with your air machine, maybe the little one need to spin really fast to start turning on his own

Good idea, will go do that now.


Hi
One thing that has not been determined is the Stator mags height to the center line heights of the Rotor mags.
CLaNZeR this might be something to work also while waiting for your mags. In all the work ups including Al description i do not recall this measurement.
Something to consider.
BTW....Looking Good C.

Bill

Rosphere

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #682 on: January 13, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
@CLaNZeR,

Your third video appears to have the "magneto kinetic Jetson damper" added?  Would you care to elaborate?  (Sorry if I missed it earlier.)

EDIT: Also seen in the fourth video as well.  (Circled in image below.)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 09:20:37 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #683 on: January 13, 2008, 08:30:18 PM »
Hi Sean,
I have to agree with rotorhead, the stator closest to the cam does appear to speed up slightly for a very short time.
Its hard to tell.
I really am now looking forward to the results with the correct magnets.

I hope to have some N42 12mm OD x 6mm diametric disks by Monday. I am tempted to send you 3 so you can perform a better test.
With first class post you could have them by Tuesday if they turn up tomorrow.

Do you know when the K&J magnets were dispatched?

Regards
Rob

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #684 on: January 13, 2008, 08:37:37 PM »
Well spinning the Stator magnet using Air certainly will stop me taking skin off my fingers!!!

Heres some latching with 1 Stator Fixed again, 1 Stator loose and of course the latcher!.
Also in the same video latching with just 1 Stator, again using the airline.

And yep it does sound to initially speed up when it latches as you can hear.
I will get the Tacho connected back up and see if we can catch it.

Got to go try eat this end, as had nothing all day LOL  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch4.wmv

P.S Sorry the videos are so big but I want to try and keep them atleast 640 * 480 resolution, so you can see what is actually happening.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #685 on: January 13, 2008, 08:45:26 PM »
Nice job Sean!

I really think this motor will work with the proper magnet due to what i see from your video!


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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #686 on: January 13, 2008, 08:49:23 PM »
And yep it does sound to initially speed up when it latches as you can hear.

 :o

Looks like the stator has a little play in it, and could be giving it a little extra energy at the right time.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #687 on: January 13, 2008, 08:51:25 PM »
SWEET!!!  the only thing I'd say is that you might be working against the rotation of the rotor by squirting air in from that angle, perhaps from another direction it might be more productive?

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #688 on: January 13, 2008, 09:03:40 PM »
Hello all.  First post.  I have been lurking here for the past 3 days until I had read through all of the posts.  Pretty exciting stuff!  I've also read most of the Steorn Whipmag posts - as I have been keeping track of that forum throughout the various rises and falls of adrenaline for quite awhile. 

One thing bothers me - and maybe I'm being naive.  There seems to be one measurement missing from the Al Whipmag specification: the strength of each of the magnets used.  Wouldn't that play a major part in determining the speed at which the rotor would need to be rotating in order to get the effect?  In Al's description he talks about the distance maintained between the rotor magnets and the stators.  That would seem to be half of what is needed to determine the 'gear' stability between them - the other half would be the combined attraction/repulsion of the magnets involved at that distance.  It would seem that stronger magnets might require more distance to achieve the same effect - and weaker magnets would require less.

Am I missing something?  Do all magnets of a given composition and shape have the same magnetic characteristics?  Aren't magnets sold by their degree of magnetization in addition to their size? 

Sorry in advance for my naivete if it turns out that there is a key piece of knowledge that I am lacking.

Also, although it is premature for the moment, I would like to offer the potential of my (free) services as a database programmer once digitally collected data begins to become available.  I can write software to parse and perform some digital signal processing on data that is collected and output graphs or whatever.  I did this for drmike on the Steorn forum for his magnetic viscosity experiment and it was fun and satisfying.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #689 on: January 13, 2008, 09:17:03 PM »
Well spinning the Stator magnet using Air certainly will stop me taking skin off my fingers!!!

Here's some latching with 1 Stator Fixed again, 1 Stator loose and of course the latcher!.
Also in the same video latching with just 1 Stator, again using the airline.

And yep it does sound to initially speed up when it latches as you can hear.
I will get the Tacho connected back up and see if we can catch it.

Got to go try eat this end, as had nothing all day LOL  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch4.wmv

P.S Sorry the videos are so big but I want to try and keep them at least 640 * 480 resolution, so you can see what is actually happening.


That's amazing. I thought I could hear the acceleration in the first case and in the second it sounded just like an engine trying to pick up.

I've got Broadband (Zen Lite -Maximum download speed (Mbps)  8.0) and the video downloaded quite quickly for me.