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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #585 on: January 12, 2008, 08:15:24 PM »
Well gawd that was boring filming that LOL  ;D ;D

But from 1000RPM it took 8 minutes 30 seconds to Wind Down.

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/20mmRotor2.jpg)

Here is a Video and if anyone watches the whole of it, you are a sadder man than me  ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRS20mmrotor2winddown.wmv

Off too look at Craigy's video :)

Cheers

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #586 on: January 12, 2008, 08:16:29 PM »
Hi all, got my first anti gear spin using the wrong magnets but no sustain or acceleration to report yet
Craigy, the rotor looks a bit small, rotor magnets too close to each other, possibly too long. My tests show best ratio of rotor magnet to stator dia: 1:1 to 1.5:1

Hi There , this is the playing before i get the correct magnets, i have the correct rotor on its way and the correct magnets, besides the stators themselves are 2 small neos drilled into a perspex disk, i am surprised i got anything with those..

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Re: Anti-Gravity?
« Reply #587 on: January 12, 2008, 08:17:18 PM »
Quote from: sterlinga
Are you joking or did you really see some possible anti-gravity effects?  I would think that this alone would be worth serious investigation.  Could you show that by video?  Unsecure the legs, and allow lift-off (with proper teathering and device protections in place).

Sterling

It is because there are holes in the baseplate, the down draft forces it up.

I had this with another Rig in the Summer when it hit 4000RPM and that just had one 40mm hole under the Rotor, but was enough for the down draft too force it upwards.


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Re: Anti-Gravity?
« Reply #588 on: January 12, 2008, 08:22:48 PM »

Hi Sean,

Are you joking or did you really see some possible anti-gravity effects?  I would think that this alone would be worth serious investigation.  Could you show that by video?  Unsecure the legs, and allow lift-off (with proper tethering and device protections in place).

Sterling

Ever consider something as simple as down draft?

Oh, I forgot to add low air pressure above the rotor at those high RPMs

But seriously, could someone explain the connection between gravity and magnetism, I see this around these boards quite often, my understanding is that magnetism and gravity only have similar characteristics but they do not interact,
Mmm...Well it could be that the OCAL effect is a manifestation of the polarisation of inertia - which is another way of saying the polarisation of mass since the definition is the same for both. Mass is not a measure of the amount of stuff but a property of stuff. If you increase the velocity of a body the mass increases but the number of protons, etc. the amount of "stuff" remains constant.

Now it is conceivable that if mass is polarised that there will be less seeing the gravitational wind that blows steadily downwards. So its conceivable that the weight of the rotor will decrease.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #589 on: January 12, 2008, 08:23:56 PM »
Hi all, got my first anti gear spin using the wrong magnets but no sustain or acceleration to report yet
Craigy, the rotor looks a bit small, rotor magnets too close to each other, possibly too long. My tests show best ratio of rotor magnet to stator dia: 1:1 to 1.5:1

Hi There , this is the playing before i get the correct magnets, i have the correct rotor on its way and the correct magnets, besides the stators themselves are 2 small neos drilled into a perspex disk, i am surprised i got anything with those..
Got any 1/4" cubes? One of them mounted in center of the stator, poles facing out, might have a chance. Didn't notice any other stators. Are they there?

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Re: Anti-Gravity?
« Reply #590 on: January 12, 2008, 08:27:02 PM »
Started doing some weighing and wind down tests with NO stator magnets.
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BTW I span it upto 4000 RPM without magnet just now and it started too lift off the table at 2500 RPM, so Blue Tacked the feet down and they are only just staying there at 4000 RPM, so be warned LOL  ;D ;D ;D
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Hi Sean,

Are you joking or did you really see some possible anti-gravity effects?  I would think that this alone would be worth serious investigation.  Could you show that by video?  Unsecure the legs, and allow lift-off (with proper teathering and device protections in place).

Sterling

There is a HUGE difference between lift and inertia.  Think of "helicopter", not "anti-gravity".   :D ;D


Hi Sean,

Are you joking or did you really see some possible anti-gravity effects?  I would think that this alone would be worth serious investigation.  Could you show that by video?  Unsecure the legs, and allow lift-off (with proper teathering and device protections in place).

Sterling

Ever consider something as simple as down draft?

LOL!  Naw, it's anti-gravity, let's patent it!   ;)

Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #591 on: January 12, 2008, 08:31:48 PM »
In the video there is just one stator , i made more stators but was so  excited after installing the first one that i ran out of time to install magnets in the others lol, what a plonker i must be..Like i said have the correct magnets on their way , but can?t sit here doing nothing

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #592 on: January 12, 2008, 08:33:50 PM »
@Sterlinga

I remember seeing an old x craft that had discs on either side of the body that spun at high rpm's and provided thrust for the plane.  It was a real old plane tho somewheres in the 50's i think.  But supports that concept.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #593 on: January 12, 2008, 08:34:04 PM »
In the video there is just one stator , i made more stators but was so  excited after installing the first one that i ran out of time to install magnets in the others lol, what a plonker i must be..Like i said have the correct magnets on their way , but can?t sit here doing nothing
That's why I suggested trying cubes. Give you something to try while waiting.

CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #594 on: January 12, 2008, 08:34:12 PM »
Quote from: Craigy
Hi There , this is the playing before i get the correct magnets, i have the correct rotor on its way and the correct magnets, besides the stators themselves are 2 small neos drilled into a perspex disk, i am surprised i got anything with those..

Great Craigy, ya had too go playing TUT, ya could not wait for ya proper stator magnets TUT.

Right SOD you I am off too play as well hehehe  ;D

Well done mate.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #595 on: January 12, 2008, 09:49:03 PM »
Well gawd that was boring filming that LOL  ;D ;D

If you get bored again, you could settle another old debate and see if it runs longer with the axle set horizontally.. :P 

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #596 on: January 12, 2008, 09:57:41 PM »
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If you get bored again, you could settle another old debate and see if it runs longer with the axle set horizontally.. :P 

Not that old Chestnut again LOL

If I have got time tomorrow I will give it a go at a 90 degree angle.

Will be interesting, as there is hardly any play in the axle on this Rig.

We shall see hehe :)


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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #597 on: January 12, 2008, 10:02:53 PM »
If I have got time tomorrow I will give it a go at a 90 degree angle.

Trust me, I'm accelerating those magnets to your location through sheer willpower, hopefully you have more much more fascinating endeavors taking up your time.. :;D

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #598 on: January 12, 2008, 10:12:56 PM »
Quote from: jcims
If you get bored again, you could settle another old debate and see if it runs longer with the axle set horizontally.. :P 

Not that old Chestnut again LOL

If I have got time tomorrow I will give it a go at a 90 degree angle.

Will be interesting, as there is hardly any play in the axle on this Rig.

We shall see hehe :)



Can you do it while standing on your head juggling magnets?

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #599 on: January 12, 2008, 10:20:48 PM »
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Can you do it while standing on your head juggling magnets?

Thats easy as will be juggling the magnets in one hand?
ummm that leaves one hand free to video it I suppose  ;D