Author Topic: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube?? (Read 1334245 times)

Jdo300 · « **Reply #525 on:** January 12, 2008, 05:23:57 AM »

Quote from: oak on January 12, 2008, 04:33:06 AM

"[C]ould one of you Steorn users pass along the blueprint PDF file to Al? I am almost certain everything is correct in it but I would feel even better to know that he approves of the dimensions I put in it."

Jason, your blueprint was pointed out to alsetalokin two days ago. He said you did a great job, and suggested a slight modification:

Wow! That looks like something I could build!
That's a really good job, Jason.
I see you even put the thread fit class in.
The only thing I would add or change is the rotor axle. I know it's what I showed in most of the pictures. But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew.

It's nice to see a real engineering drawing for a change. I usually just sketch stuff on napkins, and that makes it hard to see those leftover bits of food that are so tasty in the middle of the night.

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60141&page=2#Item_10

(And he's right, it is a great job.)

Thanks!

I completely missed that post

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I would be happy to add the axle assembly to the blueprints but I'm not sure what the dual ball-bearing holder with the spring compression end-play holder (wow what a mouth full) looks like. Is that something you can buy already like that or did he custom make it? Is there any way I could get more information on it. Maybe even a rough dimensioned sketch of the assembly? If so, I'd be happy to add it to the blueprints.

One other thing I'm wondering is if the motor still works alright with the screw as the shaft as opposed to the 3.5 mm one?

God Bless,
Jason O

Nicolas Roger · « **Reply #526 on:** January 12, 2008, 05:38:42 AM »

I got news from Butch (and so from Dusty):

"Nicolas,
Dusty received 3/16" magnets and needed 1/4". New magnets should be in by Monday. Also, the original builder said the rotor has to be the material he used and not clear plastic so the mass will be the same as well as static electricity properties. Dusty is making a new rotor so it will match the original design exactly. Then if it is successful, try it with the clear plastic rotor.
Butch"

So sorry to say guys, but we are still waiting for magnets..

cub3 · « **Reply #527 on:** January 12, 2008, 06:12:29 AM »

G'day all,

I believe my first post on this thread. I have been following for a few weeks (read all of postings)

Toolmaker by trade (retired by circumstances not age or ability), though a lot of experience with electro/mechanical devices.

This has been mentioned before no doubt, though I shall again, to replicate a device all dimensions and materials used in original device should be strictly adhered to, otherwise not a replication.

Everything, is in the information and if i may say Duplicate, then experiment.

For the duplicators/replicators.

http://www.ospmm.com/whipmag/

Den

ps. I at present would kill for some basic equipment!!!!!!! Keep up the excellent work

pps taken from http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60142&page=1#Item_1

oak · « **Reply #528 on:** January 12, 2008, 06:39:34 AM »

Jason, I posted your questions about the rotor axle design in a location where alsetalokin will see them:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=29#Item_29

(Side note to Steorn forum members: if you have 'whispers' (private messages) in a particular thread in that forum, then a url intended to take you to a certain post will take you to the wrong post; if you sign off the url will take you to the correct location.)

sterlinga · « **Reply #529 on:** January 12, 2008, 07:08:39 AM »

Quote from: sterlinga on January 11, 2008, 05:39:58 PM

I should mention also that Doug Furr, the Ph.D. Mechanical Engineer who built our 1/4-scale Perendev Magnet motor (with Brady's permission, but which we couldn't get to work) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6189540769300973039, expects to finish today his replica of your magnet motor design built by Al. [...] All his parts: magnets and bearings, will be arriving today.

Doug got his parts, but didn't have time to machine the thing. He might be able to get back to it over the week-end, but he has a patent on another project that he has to finish by Monday.

A couple of funny things.

Doug said that when he was calling the magnet guys they commented something to the effect that all the sudden people were ordering this one kind of magnet, and they ran out. They didn't know why there was this sudden rush. I guess no one told them.

Doug didn't have this problem because he's going 1.5-scale. However, when the magnets arrived, the bill was like $600. It turns out that rather than ordering 1 pack of 10, and one pack of 5, they ordered 10 packs of 10 and 5 packs of 5; so they're loaded with magnets.

Grimer · « **Reply #530 on:** January 12, 2008, 07:23:09 AM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 12, 2008, 05:00:11 AM

Quote from: Grimer on January 12, 2008, 04:56:41 AM
It's nice to see a real engineering drawing for a change.

Sure is . Took me back half a century to sharpening my H pencil on a sanding block.
But you've probably never seen on of those.

Or perhaps scratching India ink with a razor blade of the transparent paper and rubbing the spot with a little soap so you could draw a new line without it running??

Hans von Lieven

That really took me back. Fortunately I had a Graphos pen and didn't have to rely on the more primitive type which looked like a wading birds beak. We also had some damn tough tracing sheet material so one wasn't in danger of scraping a hole in it. Probably why we never had to resort to soap.
I kept as far away from that as possible in those days. Still do to be quite honest,

Grimer · « **Reply #531 on:** January 12, 2008, 07:31:16 AM »

Quote from: sterlinga on January 12, 2008, 07:08:39 AM

Quote from: sterlinga on January 11, 2008, 05:39:58 PM

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Doug didn't have this problem because he's going 1.5-scale. However, when the magnets arrived, the bill was like $600. It turns out that rather than ordering 1 pack of 10, and one pack of 5, they ordered 10 packs of 10 and 5 packs of 5; so they're loaded with magnets.

A relation of mine in Belgium was ordering some stuff and he forgot the decimal point, Instead of one box a complete lorry load turned up.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #532 on:** January 12, 2008, 08:53:44 AM »

Quote from: oak on January 12, 2008, 06:39:34 AM

Jason, I posted your questions about the rotor axle design in a location where alsetalokin will see them:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=29#Item_29

(Side note to Steorn forum members: if you have 'whispers' (private messages) in a particular thread in that forum, then a url intended to take you to a certain post will take you to the wrong post; if you sign off the url will take you to the correct location.)

Hi Oak,

Thanks for posting that for me. I'll be very interested to see what Al comes back with.

God Bless,
Jason O

SoeN · « **Reply #533 on:** January 12, 2008, 09:12:08 AM »

I II     III IV V VI VII VIII
5240 5273 5283 5292    5298 5334 5338 5360 rpm stator
1311 1317 1319 1322 1328 1334 1315 1340 rpm rotor
3.99 4.00 4.00 4.00 3.99 3.99 4.06 4     ratio

the magic number 4

I believe some one who had Inventor software or a kind of, could making a simulation, using ratio 4:1 of stator:rotor instead of using strobo light to the working unit.

Please....

schoolboy2000 · « **Reply #534 on:** January 12, 2008, 09:28:16 AM »

Hi everyone !

I've been following this thread for a while and thought I'd jump in and say something real quick. First, I hope all the replicators have great success, I am really looking forward to their finished rigs and videos. Second, and more importantly, regarding a comment made by Sterling Alan:

"I would encourage those who are able to work on improvements which they can then patent and take to market. Doug will likely be one who will do that."

As a proponent and obvious believer in free energy, I find it troubling that Sterling was the first to mention anything about patents, as it relates to financial windfalls. I am so proud of Al and OC for keeping their work open and believe that even mentioning $$ at this point is kind of counterproductive. I will say that Sterling has also made an effort to contribute to the project but I hope we all realize that the repercussions of a successful replication(s) are of great importance to all electric consumers and keeping the technology open and free will set us all free from the constraints of big business, namely the oil and ultimately the utility companies. There's nothing wrong with someone making a profit from an original idea I guess but already talking about patenting "improvements" to a fledgling technology\process\idea just doesn't sit right with me. Just my 2 cents and feel free to move this post to a dedicated topic such as open vs. patent if the moderators so choose to in their infinite wisdom.

Again, thanks Al and OC for bringing hope back to the hopeful, thanks to all that have spent time contributing, and good luck to all attempting to replicate !

Schoolboy

ebswift · « **Reply #535 on:** January 12, 2008, 09:46:19 AM »

Hear Hear Schoolboy. OC & Al have said all along that they want their idea to be open. Even if their discovery is not OU, if it works as advertised, there is something very special working here. Anyone who does something so special in the world does not go unrewarded in modern times. I think some people are rather boldly taking charge of administration or attempting to do so.

Omega_0 · « **Reply #536 on:** January 12, 2008, 10:18:33 AM »

So is there anyone with a working/non-working replica yet...besides the inventor of course???

(thats an OU version of "are we there yet?")

This claim is so different from all other previous ones that it brought me back to ou stuff....very very interesting indeed.

tinu · « **Reply #537 on:** January 12, 2008, 10:41:45 AM »

Quote from: ebswift on January 12, 2008, 09:46:19 AM

Even if their discovery is not OU, if it works as advertised...

In can not be working as advertised and non-OU in the same time.

ebswift · « **Reply #538 on:** January 12, 2008, 10:44:30 AM »

Quote from: tinu on January 12, 2008, 10:41:45 AM

Quote from: ebswift on January 12, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
Even if their discovery is not OU, if it works as advertised...

In can not be working as advertised and non-OU in the same time.

=). Well currently, as-advertised, it is an anomaly

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mikeytown2 · « **Reply #539 on:** January 12, 2008, 11:40:24 AM »

I hear that we might be thinking about streaming a web cam. Once the upstream bandwidth is known, then i can get a since for how we are going to stream the video. My first idea is to use Nullsoft Streaming Video and use something like peercast so that we can have more then 2 people watching.
Check your bandwith with this
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Starting point for streaming video
http://www.peercast.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1986

Option B is to use a Skype plugin called Festoon. Only thing it's MIA, so it probably wont work.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Chat/Instant-Messaging/vSkype.shtml

Here are more options for OpenSource P2P streaming video
http://www.scvi.net/stream/soft.htm

If we don't want to hassle with OpenSource or skype this might be a good option, although i'm still waiting for my broadcast activation email.
http://neokast.com/
If we send them an email i'm sure they would be quite willing to help seeing how they are "beta"
Here is a live West coast stream
http://neokast.com/#VideoPlayback%26streamid%3D1f3edb3b9ac511dc922d0002b3db9ec1
live East cost
http://neokast.com/#VideoPlayback%26streamid%3D2b642553fa0711db8e5b0002b3db9ec1
If its not sunny then u don't see much, these are apparently live. Check for sunlight
http://www.worldtimezone.com/datetime.htm

Let me know if you guys need any video help.
-Mikeytown2

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