Sweet.  It just gets better and better! =)  I can't wait for this new cell to come out.

Hi Everyone,

Very interesting video. I would guess (just a guess) that this is probably based off his other Linnard Griffin Electrolysis system.

Way back in June I posted an idea from experiments I was playing with using two tungsten/carbide rods in a NaOH/Colloidal Ag and Mg solution and powered with a AA battery. I was able to get out loads of gases at very little power output. Here is the post:

Hi All,

I am a firm believer in open-sourced information. This is for anyone using an electrolyzer that uses two stainless-steel electrodes to try.

Electrolyte solution:

10 grams NaOH
20ml of 20ppm concentration of colloidal silver (silver colloid)
10ml of 20ppm concentration of colloidal magnesium (magnesium colloid)
bring this mixture to a total of 100ml with deionized or distilled water.

Using this formula of solution, try it in your electrolyzer with two SS electrodes and see what kind of output of hydrogen and oxygen gases you get. My testing shows it very effective and I want everyone to see this. Try it on your high voltage system too. I get great results just using a AA battery and I am using two tungsten/carbide electrodes.

This is something I will pursue at a later date. Right  now I am working on my fuel cell electricity generator.

The thing I would change here is to leave out the magnesium colloid   and just use the silver colloid. Since there is no zinc, there is no need for the magnesium. The silver colloid can regenerate itself off the electrodes. Make up the above solution and add two SS electrodes. Apply a voltage, positve on one electrode, negative on the other, and see what kind of gas generation you get. This was something I never pursued because it needed outside power to run it, and based off some experiments that Dingus Mungus did there was a bit of a temperature rise in the solution; but if Dr.Griffin is now using outside power then perhaps (just a guess) he is doing something similar. The other thing to note is that he is using a pulsed system. Those of you who know how to pulse the power output would probably be the ideal candidates to try this.

If gas generation is not that great, then add the magnesium colloid and see if it makes the difference. I don't think you will need it though, but you might. This stuff is cutting edge technology and we are all exploring the unknown anyway.

I hope someone tries this.

Good luck and thanks for your interest.

Hello,

Is there anyone know how to make magnesium colloid?

Yes,

Use the same method as in making colloid silver except use a magnesium electrode. How to make colloid silver and how to build a simple colloid maker you will find in this link http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html

Greetings

Hans von Lieven

Edit:  For a fancier version of a basic colloid maker, this one with current limiter, which is desirable, use the schematic below.

In video in 1.31 min is images with value 205.5 (V ?) and .OL  (this is start reaction)

Hi All,
here is a new video I did get today from Dr. Linnard Griffin.

It shows  quite nice hydrogen production from pretty low voltages.

He writes:


 Hi Stefan,
Here is a video of my latest discovery. I have broken the 1.2 vdc barrier. Hydrogen and oxygen at below 1.2 vdc with no loss of electrode weight or consumption of metals. I have a volt meter connected to the power input on the cell.

I have a circuit running the reaction. The patent will be published in about one year, then everyone can reproduce it.

As demonstrated by ResinRat2, the size of the reactor will determine the output.
By my calculations the footprint for a reactor to supply hydrogen for a 10 KW fuel cell is one cubic meter.

I think David is a great researcher and scientist.

Feel free to post the video.

Keep up the good work.

Linnard

Quote from: ResinRat2 on November 27, 2007, 09:18:08 PM

Hi Everyone,

Very interesting video. I would guess (just a guess) that this is probably based off his other Linnard Griffin Electrolysis system.

Way back in June I posted an idea from experiments I was playing with using two tungsten/carbide rods in a NaOH/Colloidal Ag and Mg solution and powered with a AA battery. I was able to get out loads of gases at very little power output. Here is the post:

Quote from: ResinRat2 on June 15, 2007, 01:53:40 PM

Hi All,

I am a firm believer in open-sourced information. This is for anyone using an electrolyzer that uses two stainless-steel electrodes to try.

Electrolyte solution:

10 grams NaOH
20ml of 20ppm concentration of colloidal silver (silver colloid)
10ml of 20ppm concentration of colloidal magnesium (magnesium colloid)
bring this mixture to a total of 100ml with deionized or distilled water.

Using this formula of solution, try it in your electrolyzer with two SS electrodes and see what kind of output of hydrogen and oxygen gases you get. My testing shows it very effective and I want everyone to see this. Try it on your high voltage system too. I get great results just using a AA battery and I am using two tungsten/carbide electrodes.

This is something I will pursue at a later date. Right  now I am working on my fuel cell electricity generator.

The thing I would change here is to leave out the magnesium colloid   and just use the silver colloid. Since there is no zinc, there is no need for the magnesium. The silver colloid can regenerate itself off the electrodes. Make up the above solution and add two SS electrodes. Apply a voltage, positve on one electrode, negative on the other, and see what kind of gas generation you get. This was something I never pursued because it needed outside power to run it, and based off some experiments that Dingus Mungus did there was a bit of a temperature rise in the solution; but if Dr.Griffin is now using outside power then perhaps (just a guess) he is doing something similar. The other thing to note is that he is using a pulsed system. Those of you who know how to pulse the power output would probably be the ideal candidates to try this.

If gas generation is not that great, then add the magnesium colloid and see if it makes the difference. I don't think you will need it though, but you might. This stuff is cutting edge technology and we are all exploring the unknown anyway.

I hope someone tries this.

Good luck and thanks for your interest.

Hi, everyone,

I tried the similar test, but the result is not good.

I made two cells, one is 250ml water with 16% NaOH(Cell A), another is 250ml water including 50ml colloidal silver, 50% colloidal colloidal magnesium with 16% NaOH(Cell B),  the electrods are two SS bolt. When I conect the electrodes with 9V battery same time, the generation of gas production in cell A is much fast than in cell B. It looks like that adding the colloidal metal slow the reaction.

Yesterday, I did some compare test, 100 ml water with 10% NaOH, 20ml colloidal silver, 20ml colloidal colloidal copper, 20ml colloidal magnesium.  I use 1.5v battery as the power.  first time, I use two SS bolt as the electrodes, there's no gas out. then I changed the cathode with Tunsten, the gas is out.  At the last, I changed the anode with Zn plate, the gas out increase more.  But there was black powder was sinked, too.

My guess is that, use Tunsten as electrodes can increase the gas production, and the reason of gas increasing more by Zn plate is Zn is react with water, the black powder should be ZnO or similar thing.

So, is there anyone could give me some explanation or suggestion?

P.S  all the colloidal metal were made by one 9v battery.

thanks everybody watching, a brainstorming is waiting.

Adam

Sorry, everyone,

I begin to doubt the effect of colloidal metal after my new simple test. Here is my testing:

I tried to repeat the experiencement #13 by put a Zn plate ( about 0.2mm thick) and a tunsten rod (diameter 2.4mm) into the Cell B, there were gas generated from tunsten rod when the they touched in the water. Then I put both into Cell A, there were still gas generated from tunsten rod, too. Then I changed the tunsten rod by copper pipe ( diameter 6mm), there were still gas out from the copper, although the gas output was smaller; last, I changed the copper pipe by SS bolt(D6x120mm), there were still little gas generated from the SS bolt, too. Review the pictures of Dave's final report, I guess maybe most of the impurities on the Zn rod should be ZnO.

The colloidal metal did act as some catalyst's effect, but from my  simple test, the effect is in limited. I'll keep tring more in order to find something in it.

The best of luck to Linnard, I hope his technology spreads.

What would be a very useful offshoot of this technology would be a small reactor that fit into the motor compartment of an electric car (e.g. TeslaMotors Electric Sportscar) and charged the batteries while the car sat parked. Just keep adding water to the reactor, let sit for several hours, and the batteries would be charged.

A mobile electric car that could travel any range and no need for a plug-in electric socket. In combo with solar panels on the car's roof, this would be the ultimate in mobile electric technology.

Will I live to see the day? Put me on the waiting list.

Hi Mark,

I've seen the air dehumidifiers that condense the water and purify it. They need over a hundred watts of energy to run. Is there a very low voltage dehumidifier?

Still, putting water into a small reservoir under the hood is just like filling your windshield washer fluid or lead-acid battery cells; but no big-bang isotopes.

Does condensed water have deuterium? I never knew that, but it sounds resonable to me.