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ResinRat2

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2007, 09:44:13 PM »
Hi TwoHawks,

I do appreciate your kind words, everyone has been very supportive with ideas and words and it really makes all the time and effort and expense worth it for me.

I have been experimenting with the glass/plexiglas materials ideas and the conclusion I am reaching is that the materials all expand and contract at different rates and amounts, and leaks are the ongoing problem. The reactor needs to be one material, either that or any interface between touching materials needs to be filled with a material like a rubber gasket or rubber stopper or some type of material that expands and contracts and fills in gaps. Ideally it would need to be all glass now, but drilling holes in glass is very, very difficult. It fractures and chips so easily. This has been the hardest part so far in the whole project. I am not a glassblower and the last reactor gave me nothing but trouble with gaskets. They ALWAYS leaked.

I was thinking it would probably be ideal if it was all tungsten carbide, but then it would cost a small fortune, and unless there was some type of sight-glass nothing inside the reactor could be seen. Then the interface problem would show up again as leaks.

If I could drill the holes in glass more expertly, then that would be half the battle. The rest could be built like a fish tank.

No videos because there is no sense in posting failures. I want to see this working, then I will write another paper and document it all as clearly as I can. I am learning as I go, so everyone please have patience. The last reactor took months and months to finally complete. This one looks like it will take a while too. Sorry, it is the reality of the situation.

Trying my best with what I have.

Thanks for the interest.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2007, 10:19:07 PM »
G'day Dave,

The product you need as a bonding agent is called sikaflex, It will stick to just about anything and can expand up to 400% before breaking

For further information look for my post on http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3725.15/topicseen.html and on the earlier pages.

Good luck

Hans

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2007, 02:51:04 PM »
Thanks Hans,
As long as it can stand up to concentrated potassium hydroxide/sodium hydroxide solution then is should be fine.


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2007, 05:43:37 PM »
Hi,

I remember a cheap method of making holes in glass: you put some sand on a glass plate, on the spot where you want to make the hole, than make a hole in the middle of the sand with your finger until you see the glass and than you pour molten lead in that hole in sand. The molten lead should melt the glass and fall under the glass plate. I don?t know any quantities for sand and molten lead, you should try it yourself. But that would be the cheapest method.
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Hi TwoHawks,

I do appreciate your kind words, everyone has been very supportive with ideas and words and it really makes all the time and effort and expense worth it for me.

I have been experimenting with the glass/plexiglas materials ideas and the conclusion I am reaching is that the materials all expand and contract at different rates and amounts, and leaks are the ongoing problem. The reactor needs to be one material, either that or any interface between touching materials needs to be filled with a material like a rubber gasket or rubber stopper or some type of material that expands and contracts and fills in gaps. Ideally it would need to be all glass now, but drilling holes in glass is very, very difficult. It fractures and chips so easily. This has been the hardest part so far in the whole project. I am not a glassblower and the last reactor gave me nothing but trouble with gaskets. They ALWAYS leaked.

I was thinking it would probably be ideal if it was all tungsten carbide, but then it would cost a small fortune, and unless there was some type of sight-glass nothing inside the reactor could be seen. Then the interface problem would show up again as leaks.

If I could drill the holes in glass more expertly, then that would be half the battle. The rest could be built like a fish tank.

No videos because there is no sense in posting failures. I want to see this working, then I will write another paper and document it all as clearly as I can. I am learning as I go, so everyone please have patience. The last reactor took months and months to finally complete. This one looks like it will take a while too. Sorry, it is the reality of the situation.

Trying my best with what I have.

Thanks for the interest.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2007, 08:07:10 PM »
Hi,

I remember a cheap method of making holes in glass: you put some sand on a glass plate, on the spot where you want to make the hole, than make a hole in the middle of the sand with your finger until you see the glass and than you pour molten lead in that hole in sand. The molten lead should melt the glass and fall under the glass plate. I don?t know any quantities for sand and molten lead, you should try it yourself. But that would be the cheapest method.
Cheers!

G'day spacetrax,

I don't know where you got this idea from.

Glass has a melting point of between 2,300?C (4,172?F) [ for pure silica ] and 1,500?C (2,732?F) depending on what kind of glass it is.

The melting point of lead is 327.46 ?C (621.43 ?F)

It is impossible to melt a hole in glass using lead, in fact it is quite possible to melt lead in a glass crucible.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2007, 07:14:08 AM »
Hi,
I remember I read this in my childhood, in a practical work magazine or so...
I didn`t try it myself.

Cheers!

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G'day spacetrax,

I don't know where you got this idea from.

Glass has a melting point of between 2,300?C (4,172?F) [ for pure silica ] and 1,500?C (2,732?F) depending on what kind of glass it is.

The melting point of lead is 327.46 ?C (621.43 ?F)

It is impossible to melt a hole in glass using lead, in fact it is quite possible to melt lead in a glass crucible.

Hans von Lieven
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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2007, 02:13:24 PM »
RR2, maybe you could melt holes in glass using lens concentrated solar, no idea as far as precision goes, but it sure is hot enough.
Great work, by the way, peace !


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2007, 11:28:55 PM »
hi RR2,


Merry Christmas and all that.


maybe this will help?

http://www.drillglass.com/hehiforbe.html


cheers

dorro

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2007, 12:21:17 AM »
Good boy Dorro,

Only way to fly  :D

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2007, 01:45:31 PM »
Yes, thanks for the info link Dorro. Maybe this might work. I will need to get diamond tipped drills and practice on some small pieces.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2007, 02:01:42 PM »
Thanks Mike, I have a Harbor Freight store just a couple of miles away. I'll go have a look.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2007, 12:37:53 AM »
Thank you for the pdf Mr Rat - it was so well explained that even I understood most of it!  ;)

Tell me -- if i wanted to experiment with this as a fuel supplement, would it produce enough gas to make a difference? ???

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2007, 03:12:50 AM »
Hi Mdh,

In the size described in the paper, it would not. I am in the process of building a larger sized reactor out of glass to up the gas output. Because I am switching to glass, I am encountering problems I did not expect initially; but things are working out.

The reason I am switching to glass is because I want to improve the heat transfer from the environment into the reactor solution. This should maximize my output efficiency and prove definitively whether the loop is closed and overunity is achieved.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2008, 10:34:01 PM »
Thermite should melt glass and vaporize water fairly quickly :P Wonder if it would produce an excess of hydrogen on the fly ...

I have seen some unexplainable stuff in my day though I've seen the glass cook ware blow up literally just from placing a hamburger in the glass pan that you are supposed to be able to cook in I could not explain it.

Who knows maybe molten led will put holes in glass I will not be the one to say it does not.

But I would guarentee thermite will put holes in glass and then some.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2008, 12:39:51 AM »
Not sure what kind of chamber your trying to put a hole in or how big. But why dont you just use a bolt together tube chamber with 4 all thread on flat end plates made of 1/2 in plexiglass with gaskets thats easily drillable and tapable.

Or you could build a hydrogen torch and melt through it, that stuff melts anything on contact.:)