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Offline ResinRat2

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Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« on: November 20, 2007, 09:03:55 PM »
I took all the suggestions I received and finalized the report into a pdf format.

Hope you enjoy the information.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 09:19:05 PM »
Thanks Dave,

Now that the final report is out let me be the first to congratulate you on a magnificent, groundbreaking piece of work. Not only have you shown yourself to be a resourceful and meticulous researcher but you have freely shared your discoveries, warts and all, with us as they occurred.

You also have demonstrated to us the value of disciplined experimentation and documentation, many of us would be well to copy.

Thanks for your contribution. You are a champion.

Hans von Lieven


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 09:39:49 PM »
Great Work, hats off  ;D

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 12:39:48 AM »
Well done!  What are you planning next?


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 01:44:18 AM »
Well done!  What are you planning next?

Hi Brian,

Once you read the Hydrogen Reactor paper, then you will know.

Dave(RR2)

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 01:44:18 AM »
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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2007, 08:23:42 PM »
Hi Dave:

I have only ever logged in to this forum once before, but compelled to do so again.  I go to this forum only to read your posts as I believe what you are doing here is truly amazing.  I wish I could help, but what is discussed here is beyond me.  All I do is sit back and read in awe and wonder.

I want to thank you for your intrepid service to humanity.  You are a hero.

..broken

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 01:29:47 AM »
Hi Soldier,

Hero? I'm no Hero. Realistically the loop is still not shown to be closed so all I have so far is an electricity generator that ran for 20 days. The larger unit should tell the tail. I am grateful for the kind words though.

I just hope something useful for mankind can come out of this work. All signs look promising.

« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 01:30:48 AM by ResinRat2 »

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 11:17:05 PM »
Dave, et all,

I have been lurking for about a week, and just couldn't hide in the corner anymore.

A week ago, I stumbled upon an article/video about John Kansas splitting salt water by using a 13.56-MHz radio frequency to agitate the salt in the water. That led me to Electrolysis, and ZeroFossilFuel's YouTube videos.  I watched them all. Even wrote him, asking a dumb question (Thanks for the response). Even started drawing up plans for my own cell.  But I am not interested in producing HHO, I want to produce electricity.

I lost probably 3 of the 7 days of research, navigating through dubious claims, and outright fraud.  But those other 4 days, have provided me with hope - something severely lacking for at least the last 8 years.  In those 4 days, I have found here on over-unity (and youtube) a community of thoughtless researchers, that are actively seeking a  DIY, "open-source" solution to the energy problem. The most noble intent, which I share emphatically.

I am just posting to introduce myself, throw in my support, and remind you all that what you are doing, and how you are doing it, is important!  By posting regular updates and videos, you immediately expose your knowledge to the world, not only stimulating discussion/innovation - but protecting yourself - and the knowledge- from those who fear it. Smart, Educational and Entertaining.

I want to help. Not sure how - I am a media technologist and filmmaker -  Science is not my strong suit.  But this is where IT is at - where the future is being made. When I am old and grey, I want to at least be able to say I was there! I watched it happen! So here I am. Please excuse my late arrival to the party, forgive the random idiotic question, and I will do my best to contribute to the cause as best I can.

I got some questions, suggestions, ideas.  Take them for what they are worth.

1) Circuit to Switch Zinc Electrodes (* Dave)
Right now you are manually switching the zinc electrodes every 12 hours, why not integrate a simple electronic circuit that could automatically switch the zinc electrodes?  The power draw would be minimal and you could run it off the second fuel cell.  Being electronic, you would then have fine tune control over how often the electrodes were switched.  As you found a difference between 24 hours and 12, I wonder what would happen if you switched every minute, second or millisecond.  Just a thought. You could even integrate a dial in the circuit and a display that showed the frequency of switch, that way you could experiment easily with different periods.

2)  HHO versus H2 & O2(* Dave, ZeroFossilFuel)
There seems to be at least two distinct systems being developed here. One uses stainless steel plates in a single chamber, requires an input and generates HHO.  Production seems to be high, but the resulting gas is highly unstable - and should be consumed immediately. The other has a dual chamber design, uses zinc and tungsten-carbide, requires no input and generates H2 and O2.  Correct?  So the first design is best suited for combustion applications, while the second is best for hydrogen fuel cell applications?  This implies that a fuel cell cannot be constructed to generate electricity from HHO, is that true?  Just trying to understand the similarities, or dissimilarities, between the two systems.

3) Wiki, or Centralization of Research and Videos
One of the things that has frustrated me in the last week, is that there wasn't one compiled source of research, videos, explanations and tutorials.  Most of my time was spent searching the OU forum, youtube and google. Once you start searching google, a whole bunch of shit rises to the surface and it is really tough to find honest information and answers.  I think it would really help to have an overview or chronology of the research, a wiki that has a chronological list of links to the research and videos, so that when a newbie stumbles, upon the subject, they got a clear roadmap and won't get lost in the B.S.. More-over, we could have specific wiki threads for various designs or research groups, in fact those wikis could be editable only by the specific design team, enabling them to use the wiki to document experimentation.

This is a model the open source community has found great success with, especially for projects with questionable legality (iphone and appltetv hacking).  Wikis are incredibly easy to setup, and I think it would do this movement a world of good to have one.

Anyway, sorry for the essay.  By now, I have most certainly overstayed my welcome.   I thank you all once again for your time, vision and nobility, and I eagerly look forward to watching your developments.

Ty Rauber


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 12:57:39 AM »
Dear Ty,

What a wonderful experience to read your post.

What the world needs are hundreds/thousands of dedicated people like Dave. If we had a unified effort to develop the hydrogen economy, we would succeed!

 If you search the internet, most of what you find is trash. I believe there are few who are doing what they claim but at what cost? We need cheap energy!

All of my patents are or will be published. I will not give any leading suggestions as this would hurt the research and not help it. People like David are free thinkers and think out of the box. Do not let anyone tell you this or that reaction will not take place, instead try your ideal and find out for yourself. Take their work as a starting point and be creative.

Linnard

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 02:31:04 PM »
Hi Ty,
Here are my attempts to answer what I could:

1) Circuit to Switch Zinc Electrodes (* Dave)
Right now you are manually switching the zinc electrodes every 12 hours, why not integrate a simple electronic circuit that could automatically switch the zinc electrodes?  The power draw would be minimal and you could run it off the second fuel cell.  Being electronic, you would then have fine tune control over how often the electrodes were switched.  As you found a difference between 24 hours and 12, I wonder what would happen if you switched every minute, second or millisecond.  Just a thought. You could even integrate a dial in the circuit and a display that showed the frequency of switch, that way you could experiment easily with different periods.Yes Ty, I plan on looking into this area of research in the near future. I purchased an electronics lab from Radio Shack and plan on teaching myself the basics of electronics in order to develop such a switching system. This is an area I am woefully inadequate in and I plan on doing what I can to improve that. I agree, I have thought exactly along the lines you suggest. It would be better suited for the larger reactor which would have a greater output and give me more of a power cushion to play with.

2)  HHO versus H2 & O2(* Dave, ZeroFossilFuel)
There seems to be at least two distinct systems being developed here. One uses stainless steel plates in a single chamber, requires an input and generates HHO.  Production seems to be high, but the resulting gas is highly unstable - and should be consumed immediately. The other has a dual chamber design, uses zinc and tungsten-carbide, requires no input and generates H2 and O2.  Correct?  So the first design is best suited for combustion applications, while the second is best for hydrogen fuel cell applications?  This implies that a fuel cell cannot be constructed to generate electricity from HHO, is that true?  Just trying to understand the similarities, or dissimilarities, between the two systems. I have never heard this, but it could be related to the fact that in the so called HHO systems (to me this just expresses a ratio of gas, not its actual makeup. Any gas, to me, would just be H2 and O2 mixtures)  are mixtures of hyrogen and oxygen and as a result they have no use in a fuel cell. Fuel cells require the gases be segregated from each other, no mixtures allowed. I am sure if I am missing something that someone will correct me.

3) Wiki, or Centralization of Research and Videos
This needs to be done, and some day I am sure it will. LOL! You may be just the one to do it too. Right now I am concentrating on my research and it is gobbling up a great deal of my free time. Just ask my wife, she will tell you all about it!!


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 03:29:38 PM »
Welcome Ty,

Excellent post sir. I think what you just summed up in a few paragraphs are what quite a few of us have gone through and the rest are still going through. Glad to see you have come out the other end fighting :)
From my own independant research.....i.e Google searching :).......I have found that the single most up to date Wiki on clean, free, alternate energy is PESWIKI. You can find them at http://peswiki.com.

I cant say I've been through the entire site myself, but it is very much up there as one of the more reliable and broad sources of free energy information.

Regards
NssB

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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2007, 05:42:14 AM »
What's the frequency, Kenneth?

FACT:  An electrical current can induce the breakdown of water into H2 and 02, given the introduction of specific chemicals and metals into water.

FACT:  A microwave frequency can induce the breakdown of water into H2 and 02, given that the frequency matches that of a chemical element within the water.

EXHIBIT A:  Microwave Tires and Voil?! Alternative Fuel
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/microwave-alternative-fuel-47120305

EXHIBIT B:  If we could just burn salt water, we'd never run out of fuel
http://www.motortrend.com/features/editorial/112_0711_technologue/

THEORY:  A combination of both processes together in the same unit, will produce the greatest efficiency and gas output, with the least amount of energy input.

Linnard's design. Add a small electronic circuit that A ) will control the volts, amps and current throughout the system, B) swap the zinc currents and C) send a modulated microwave frequency through the stack. 

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I scribbled the above notes down today to help keep my eye on the ball. I thought it might interest some of you.

Linnard,  The feeling is quite mutual and I couldn't agree more. I just noticed this forum has 9478 members. Might just be enough.

RR2, 1) awesome. I am telling you... the missing piece is there. 
2) If you haven't checked out ZeroFossil Fuel's Youtube video's you really should.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ZeroFossilFuel
Very similar line a work. In fact a bunch of people are pursuing it. Zeros video's just really impressed me. I believe is was originally called a Joe Cell. The original inventor thought it was aetheral energy. Turns out just electrolysis. Anyway, people are building single and multiple cell electrolyzers with steel plates, that produce a mixed H2 O1 gas (although I think it is really H2 O2, but they call it Brown's gas, HHO, Oxyhydrogen, blah, blah blah.) Anyway, they are hooking them up to their injecter valves on their carburetors, and increasing their gas mileage. Some even report being able to remove the fuel line and still run the automobile.  Same science, slightly different approach.   One cell, all steel plates, some stack of positive, negative and neutral plates submerged in water with a current.  They get some serious gas output. But it takes input and the gas is in mixed form. Not good. And I am not sure how you would separate it? Anyone?  If you haven't seen it, take 5 minutes, look at some of the videos on youtube. Might give you some ideas. You're a chemist. He is a machinist, I believe. If you two haven't chatted, you should.  He is on this forum. Make it happen.

Also, here is a company trying to commercialize the technology:  http://www.gethydropower.com/

NssB, I appreciate the sentiments. Understand it is not as dire as I made it seem. It is amazing how well people can function within society without hope.  In fact, in most circumstances it helps, making reality easier and therefore "life" enjoyable.  But is it life?

I would like to leave you today, with a quote from the late prophet, Bill Hicks, which I find somehow relevant:

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death. Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves... Here's Tom with the weather."

my best wishes to all
ty rauber


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 01:36:40 AM »

"What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

...that you Dan??



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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 06:46:38 AM »
RR2 - way to go...  You deserve a standing O for that one buddy.


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Re: Final Draft - Linnard Griffin Hydrogen Reactor Experiment Report
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2007, 08:54:17 PM »
Hi RR2/DR (and everyone),   I have been following this with great interest.  I just want to express my gratitude for your devotion to the work and the careful attention to documenting, and to be sharing... and accomplishing, damm-t! 
Just read your paper - wow!  Great job.  'Thank you' just doesn't quite say it for me. 

I hope you are able to keep on with your inspired work.
One suggestion (everyone's got one, eh?!)... let me just say I am hoping, since you are sharing it, that you consider video recording (lots of) the building (and testing) of your next reactor, if at all possible.  I certainly wouldn't want to presume to be adding more pressure... I know you, like so many others, are doing so much work, and how hard it is to sort out the time for everything.  Not that 'I' could really add pressure, but I did want to express my excitement to potentially be able to see more in your youtube space.

Cheers,
TwoHawks

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