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FreeEnergy

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 10:08:21 AM »
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tbird

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2008, 04:04:28 PM »
is anyone having a problem getting the 2nd page to open,besides me?

tom
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FreeEnergy

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2008, 12:51:39 AM »
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FreeEnergy

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump - THREAD IS NOT WORKING, PLEASE FIX IT.
« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2008, 12:55:02 AM »
THANK YOU
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helmut

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2008, 02:45:47 PM »
Quote from: idnick on February 17, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
@ Whitebird

Hope this photo answers some of your questions.

@ TomG

How's your project coming along. I'll post a pic of what I'm up too later

Dave


The second page of this tread does not work. Thats why i post a testanswer.
Will see what happend.

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albator10

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2008, 07:01:52 PM »
The second page is not working

Can someone help?
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Zuppy

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2008, 07:52:16 PM »
Hello everyone,

I like to build a hydrosonic pump with a 10 inch rotor . My question is: are there any schematic ore callculations regarding the size and depht of the holes and size of the rotor.  I already googled "hydrosonic and Griggs Pump", but did not find any measurements to start with. Any help is welcome and if I make any progression, I post it here.

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hartiberlin

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2008, 01:06:05 AM »
Quote from: albator10 on August 31, 2008, 07:01:52 PM
The second page is not working

Can someone help?

I have fixed this error now.

Please don´t post so big sized pictures.

Please scale them down to around 800x600
or 1024x768.

Otherwise people have problems to look at them
and the server also does not like it.

Regards, Stefan.
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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2008, 04:21:55 PM »
Hi, I am new to this forum, but I have had an interest in the Griggs pump for a couple of years now. I think this might be the year I put the info I have gathered to the test and build a prototype. I do have some questions that some of you may have the answers to. On previous posts it was commented that the "hydrosonic pump" doesn't actually pump. Will the fluid in the unit move on its own or do you need a separate pump  to move things along? I was thinking of building one along the lines of the "KAMPEN72" design from Holland. Does anyone know this design? It seams that all the info I find is on the Griggs type with a divorce type pump and motor.

 Any info would be great, I don't know why this technology is not more wide spread. If I get this to work I plan to use it to heat my house like the KAMPEN72 video shows. Then I'll build one for every one of my family members and then my friends, and so on.... 
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Yucca

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2009, 04:06:32 AM »
I think the griggs hydrosonic pump could be improved by coupling it with the N machine process:

thread about N machine:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=626.0

Make a griggs hydrosonic pump, but instead of having a solid spinning cylinder make the cylinder out of thickish copper disks sandwiched between thickish axially polarised neo disks. Maybe 3 coppers with 2 neos in middle. Now machine the outer edge of the coppers for the cavitation holes just like a regular griggs. Could also optionally machine outer edges of neos using high speed oil lubricated grinding tools.

Insulate the end faces of the sandwich using epoxy based marine paint, make sure the copper faces are nicely roughed up using fine grit emery before painting.

Make sure the shaft is well electrically connected to the outer casing, may need hefty brushes for this, Brush cooling will be enhanced by the fact that they are immersed.

Now fill the pump using water with a good amount of electrolyte in it and spin her up.

This should produce good heat from the cavitation alone but also lots more heat as a very high current will also flow between the cylinder and the drum wall, the stronger the electrolyte the higher the current. What´s more the friction of the power take off using water and electrolyte will be just the usual friction encountered in a griggs machine, the extra heat produced electrically will be for free as the Nmachine process does not produce lenz back torque like in an ordinary electrical generator.

All conducting surfaces in contact with the electrolyte  may need to be coated or sputtered with graphite or some other inert conductor to prevent ion migration for a long life.

Maybe a house could be heated very cheaply by filling its radiator system with electrolyte and then running a good sized one of these using a rotoverted motor.

Yucca.
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FreeEnergy

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2009, 01:52:28 AM »
any news on this? any actual working replicas? come on guys!
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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2009, 05:13:03 AM »
I seem to recall an invention being mentioned which makes use of hydrosonics via solid state methodology which was being positioned for the home water heating market.   Hey, if the lowly pistol shrimp can master the finer points of hydrosonic cavitation.....why not we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc





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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2009, 07:53:42 AM »
hey guys. i like this idea and i've looked over basic schematics of the rotor and housing but i was curious. is it the pressure difference or the rotating mass of the rotor that draws the fluid through? is there an actual pump that "pushes" the water through the cylinder? i'm just trying to draw up some ideas but i need to know a few more specifics. any links would help. everyone on here is very bright, any help would be greatly appreciated.

tony.
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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »
I made a hydrosonic pump (200mm x 50mm rotor) from plates of acrylic glued together. It was spun up to 6000rpm before it ran by itself,had to dump water into cavity to stop it.No heat or steam was produced.On 3rd attempt the rotor started to rub on the casing. It was rebuilt using stronger material (fiberglass) but it failed to operate !!!
One day I will try again - good thing I had 4 witness's that also saw it run
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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2009, 07:47:45 PM »
@jchapman

You're not jerking everybody around here are you?
If this actually happened I am very interested to hear how you constructed the pump, of course only if you want to share the information. I have also been wanting to build a simple pump which I am pretty sure will run by itself when put up to sufficient speed. It uses the static centrifugal pressure made by the rotation to increase its angular speed.

Hope you try to rebuild it,
Naboo
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