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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1704138 times)

Localjoe

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #585 on: December 30, 2007, 07:45:21 PM »
I agree totally artic knight,

                       When you find grandparents that have worked there whole lives and cant pay their heating bill and their rx's you start thinking fixing that scenario is more important that making money.. ya know.

Anyways i got similar readings with the steel doesent work well.. You need zinc or mg  Bill posted the chart with the values near the beginning of the thread.  The current will depend on your depth and distance from one another.  I cant believe your not even getting micro amps...  Recheck your connections.  Thanks
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #586 on: December 30, 2007, 07:45:55 PM »
Hans,
I've been thinking for some time already and I want to build it.  However I hate to read patents.
George

You do not need to read the patent George. Everything of importance in relation to this patent is in my post on page 30 in plain easily understood English with simple diagrams to illustrate its function and modern components.

Studying these old patents, or any type of patent, is a tedious matter. That is why I only take the essential elements and publish in a less cumbersome format.

If you have any questions just ask, either here in the forum or by dropping me a note.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #587 on: December 30, 2007, 08:29:18 PM »

You do not need to read the patent George. Everything of importance in relation to this patent is in my post on page 30 in plain easily understood English with simple diagrams to illustrate its function and modern components.

Studying these old patents, or any type of patent, is a tedious matter. That is why I only take the essential elements and publish in a less cumbersome format.

If you have any questions just ask, either here in the forum or by dropping me a note.

Hans von Lieven

Yes, Hans you make them quite understandable. I thank you for that work.

I asked this qyestion the other day but no one has yet answered. I am wondering why the line from coiled magnet to coiled magnet MUST be  uninsulated? Does it become an antenna this way?

Thanks,

jeanna

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #588 on: December 30, 2007, 08:37:01 PM »
The sun is shining so I will be brief.

Carbon brushes material is a suggestion made on the TT pyramid site as a source for carbon.

I've been wondering why it would not work to make a ferris wheel out of parallel caps with lights attached to each for a little draw. and movement. then charge up just one of them and leterrip. Don't you think there will be a magnetic field that moves around the ferris wheel growing each time? or maybe not growing because the lights would throw off some, but would the magnetic field allow the re-filling of the charge? or just a little from the earth battery.

My head is in a swirl with this.

I'm outside with my shovel.planting electrodes for spring fruit!  ;D

jeanna

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« Reply #589 on: December 30, 2007, 08:45:54 PM »
@ Joe:

The results I posted somewhere earlier were from doing just that.  I want to do it again anyway, under more controlled conditions and pay more attention to the details this time.  Last time it ran for around 30 minutes reasonably brite, died down at about 45 minutes (not so bright) and was still illuminated at 1 hour but not much at all.  Let me do it again but it may not be as good as this time I would be using the carbon rod that was cut in half. (but burried deeper)  I guess I could tie both carbon rods together in paralell and go to my single, one only mag. bllock.  that would be interesting to try because with the two shorter carbon rod halves, there is more rod in the ground now than when full length. (when tied together.)  I am working on some paperwork here in my home office today but I need a break and will brave the cold to do a few experiments later this afternoon. I will post results.

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« Reply #590 on: December 30, 2007, 08:52:14 PM »
joe i believe both metal rods i have are covered in a anti corosion agent which may be stopping my amps, i swapped the poles and got the same reading no difference, granted i have not aligned them properly!  but no amps. the one rod is either copper or aluminium coated with a coper color.

ok so the magnetic field of the earth and the earth equals a faraday disk? sounds perfectly resonable. how can we tap this principal better?  i doubt copper coils suspended in air will do that well seems the earth is doing a much better job for us if you ask me.  perhaps we should combine the faraday principals with the earth battery principals? 

we know how a faraday disk works so my question since i joined this forum is what about plates instead of rods? according to science you get more current from a battery when there is more surface area on the electrodes so im thinking we need to play with plates now eh?  i have not probed for the best results from my rods yet but from what i gather from the work done here we are going to need to go deeper however not too deep, i believe those 8 foot poles at lowes would be the best but they would not lend them selfes well to being readjusted in the ground so one would have to get it right the first time.

hmm whats the best way to get your hands on a copper metal plate? guess im googleing

yea the steel might be bad even worse if aluminium is what i have for the other but its free and proves a valuable point to me :) now i know and i can hopefully use freebies to find better results without needing other metals just yet,

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« Reply #591 on: December 30, 2007, 09:01:37 PM »
G'day Jeanna and all,

To answer your question, quite frankly, I do not know why Meyer insists on uninsulated iron wire. It was simply a specification stated in the patent that I took as read.

Only experiment will determine if it does make a difference using insulated iron wire. My feeling at this stage is that Meyer wanted as little interference with magnetic forces as possible. That is of course just an idea I have, not necessarily what he had in mind at all.

At this stage I feel I have taken the subject as far as theoretical considerations and research allows. It is now time to set up some experiments that will validate or invalidate the findings so far.

In my next essays I will show my idea of how such experiments should be set up and what they are supposed to determine. This will take a little time, but I am working on it. I have already started to procure the necessary materials since I want to run the experiments myself, perhaps with some of you joining in so we can compare results.

I love working with you all, you are good people and God willing we will get somewhere with this.

Greetings from Aussie,

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #592 on: December 30, 2007, 09:11:27 PM »
I think that TPU stands for Toridal Power Unit,
not sure of the spelling
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« Reply #593 on: December 30, 2007, 09:14:17 PM »
@ Joe and all:

I just wired up the cell for the experiment Joe asked me to run. I will post those results shortly but first, I wanted to post my testing of the volts in this setup today.

As I explained about the carbon rod cut in half, I wired the cell as follows:

8.5 " long carbon rod (+) to the north wired to the other carbon rod 8.5" long (+) 3 feet to the east.
Magnesium block (-) to the south aligned ONLY with the left caron rod.

1.90 vdc
2.00 mA (Steady, not falling off like before!!)
3.2 vac

These are some pretty good numbers to start Joe's test.  I discharged the cap. Dead. I drained it by hooking my meter to it in the 200 mA setting and watched it drain down to 0 from 1.8 mA.

The test will be how long the led stays lit after a 30 second charge on the cell.  If that time is not very good, I will do longer charges and keep track of the results.  Man, it's a little chilly out there, but not too bad.

@ Hans:

I think I speak for everyone here when I say that we are very lucky to have you working with us on this project.  Your research and insights have been invaluable.  I really look forward to working your experiments with you.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #594 on: December 30, 2007, 09:15:26 PM »
ok i found out i am using galvanized steel and copper painted aluminum, so after some filing and 3-4 inch depth i have gotten .4-.6 volts at 1 miliamp  so if i remember right im operating at half to a third of what others have seen with better materials. i will try a cap to see what i can get i did not measure ac at this time but i did before i stripped the pipes and got .06 volt ac its raining here so hard to experiment but will do more later

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« Reply #595 on: December 30, 2007, 09:40:25 PM »
Hi, I'm in from the rain for a minute,

A_K U think you are doing close to what I was. Do what Bill did. Get a magnesium fire brick, I found mine in the hardware store.  (The only reason I use the cu-zn is because it is such a sure connection and I know the base result.) for results get a carpenters pencil and a magnesium fire brick.

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my question since i joined this forum is what about plates instead of rods?
I guess you have to try it. I have a copper plate that looks more like brass to me... You could get copper flashing for roofs. Maybe the hardware store has that too. or junk yard next to the mag wheels.

Thanks Hans. Yes, I too look forward to experimenting with your ideas.

jeanna

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« Reply #596 on: December 30, 2007, 10:00:50 PM »
@ All:

While I am waiting for my cap. to run down I will post a few pics.  I need to do this in several posts as when I attempt to post more than one, it does not appear to work.  I may be exceeding the file size.
This should be a picture of how the cell is wired for this experiment.  Not too clear (Lens was fogging a bit) but you can see the two carbon rods hooked together and the mag. block toward the bottom charging the circuit.


Bill

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« Reply #597 on: December 30, 2007, 10:08:46 PM »
This should be a photo of the charged circuit sitting on my table in the dark.  I began the led light test at 2:39 Central time. (USA)  At 3:03 p.m. led is still lit but has gone down quite a bit.  I don't give it much longer.

@ Joe:

I went with a 5 minute charge as the 30 second charge did not get the capacitor charged up enough to fully light the led. So, we are looking at a 5 minute charge to run about 23 minutes or so, depending where you say the led is off.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #598 on: December 30, 2007, 10:09:32 PM »
edit double post

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« Reply #599 on: December 30, 2007, 10:13:07 PM »
Good deal bro.... Well consider this a half breakthrough ... this should confirm to any doubters out there..... that there's some real potential here.... Great work
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