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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1703895 times)

Localjoe

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #525 on: December 28, 2007, 01:48:53 AM »
@jenna
 No im not going into the tree but for my meter to show anything more than a few micro amps i had to go near a tree... and started getting like 600 to 700 microamps and after alignment aroudn 1.2-1.3 ma in a dead short on my meter nothing but the leads and the meter.  Sometimes pulling one rod up or down in the ground will show an increase or decrease in current .. hence the dip.  And Jenna what is the ma reading on your setup before or after a resistor? now i know your not suspost to be able to measure current this way but the readings still work so mabey mr amos would be able to tell us a better way to measure the speed the current fill the cap or is that directly proportional to the voltage built up in it.  thanks folks great work
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #526 on: December 28, 2007, 02:09:05 AM »
what is the ma reading on your setup before or after a resistor? now i know your not suspost to be able to measure current this way but the readings still work so mabey mr amos would be able to tell us a better way to measure the speed the current fill the cap or is that directly proportional to the voltage built up in it.  thanks folks great work
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Well, I have never read the amperage. It is just cuz I was following the rules that the only actual person teacher I had in electronics told me to do. He said it would always be very inaccurate because of what the meter does to get it. I need to jump out of that box, I see. I will check many of my readings with amps. But it is dark now so that will have to wait.

I just got my super caps. I got 2 that are 1F and 5.5 volts and one can type non-polarized that is 1 microF at 100V (seems like wishfull thinking now)

Joe, What voltage did you get from your arrangement?

jeanna

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #527 on: December 28, 2007, 02:13:29 AM »
@ jenna

Anywheres from 1.2 to 1.4 v with the cu and zinc, and i was the same way about the ma reading and then i said skrew it and just put the leads on it .. funny think is its measuring someting wether its accurate or not the span of ranges ive seen from the micro amp range into the mille amp range means something, even tho its not proper :)
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #528 on: December 28, 2007, 02:40:10 AM »
@ Jeanna:

I only have one capacitor at the moment. (5.5v .22F, not pico fared or micro fared, .22F)  I have seen some others on line but this one works so much like a battery I don't want to get something else that just dumps the charge all at once like all of my other ones here that I have salvaged from some power supplies.  I charged up one of my larger ones, larger in size not in Fareds, and it blew out one of my new leds by dumping everything all at once.  Fried the poor little thing. So, I am trying to stick with exactly what I found by accident by taking apart my "shake light".

@mramos:

If you go back to the previous page and look at the close-up of the cap. you can almost read the numbers.  Do you know where I might find these exact ones?

Thanks!

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #529 on: December 28, 2007, 03:02:49 AM »
Hi all, I just came across this, have not read it yet but may be pertinent, better minds than mine to read it.

Sorry, but better now than later.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Scalar_Winding_Around_Supercap

I was going to write, in my original post the difference in sound, of a valve radio/amplifier to a transistor driven device.
Tesla's little box with GLASS tubes versus semi conductors.

I would, love to read, an inventory of goods supplied to various past free energy pioneers.

Den

PS I goggled      cap. 5.5v .22F
« Last Edit: December 28, 2007, 03:55:28 AM by cub3 »

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #530 on: December 28, 2007, 04:05:18 AM »
Just came across perfect graphite rods for our experiments.  About 1/4" diameter and up to 8B soft.
http://www.pearlpaint.com/shop~ocID~5999~parentID~5992~categoryID~5988~layoutIndicator~vertical.htm
Check you local art stores.
George

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« Reply #531 on: December 28, 2007, 05:57:11 AM »
@ mramos:

Wow!  1.0 Farad?  Would this act "like" a battery as mine appears to do?  I have seen ones like these online but I hessitate as I don't know enough about caps to know why mine works like it does, and the others I have do not.  Also, my carbon rod was ordered from a company called Airgas.  They are here in town and I think on the web. Friday, I will at least post their phone number and/or website.  I believe I paid around $20.00 USD for my original rod which was 1" od x 17" long.  that included shipping.  I have cut it in half now for series experiments as I did not have the funds for another one.  With 1.0 Farad, I think I could store a lot of volts, correct?  Would that be about 4 times what I am storing now?  Also mramos, a question.  Why is the "larger" in size cap rated "smaller" in Farads?  I have a cap here the size of a D cell battery and it is rated way lower than my little supercap.  Is there something in the design of the supercap that allows it to perform almost like a battery?  I had posted where Sears, and others, are using caps now instead of batteries for their cordless screwdrivers.  Recharge fully in like 5 minutes as opposed to 3 hours.  Forgive my ignorance, but this is how I learn.  Thanks.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #532 on: December 28, 2007, 06:36:59 AM »


I have caps.  Will these do it. 

Mramos,
The 2 that I have soldered together in "series"  are exactly the smaller one on the right

The one I just got 2 of are exactly the one on the left. I got 2 hoping one each will do. I will order more if they work.
I am glad to have the same thing to try. It might help understanding.
I got these things from allelectronics.com shipping $7 flat charge.

I didn't get any light today. I purposely used a led without a resistor so I could see even the littlest bit. The resistor is key to a useable light. That is why I think Bill's cap somewhere inside has that function built in, although so far I haven't seen one for sale.

My set up is with 2 caps in series which I think ups the volts and halves the farads, though I can't figure it out now and a 1,000 ohm resistor. So it takes a moment to show the light when I put it up to a battery and it lasts for about 30 seconds bright then continues for another 20 getting less and less.

jeanna

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #533 on: December 28, 2007, 06:47:04 AM »
I was just looking in the catalog they sent me along with todays order. The Memory back-up "supercaps" says this: "High capacitance capacitors. Slowly release charge to provide back-up power in temporary shut down situations." 

So, they have a design feature just made for us!

jeanna

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #534 on: December 28, 2007, 07:46:19 PM »
 

Also, in parallel, capacitors add in value.  So Jeana, put the two caps in parallel with each other, then the cap pair in series with the LED.



I will try that. What is so cool about Bill's circuit is that in putting the load in parallel to the cap is that he was able to charge the cap and run the load simultaneously.  I have now done that with a battery which has about 2 volts charge in it, but not the earth battery yet.

Please explain what it means add in value. in amps? or volts? or maybe something else?

Thanks,

jeanna

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« Reply #535 on: December 28, 2007, 07:47:30 PM »
@ All:

I finally found my receipt for the carbon rod

Airgas-Mid America
3000 Industrial Drive
Bowling Green, KY 42101
270-842-9486

Carbon Rod 1" X 17"  Item #ARC 4716-4000         Price=$21.77

They may have other locations across the U.S. but you could call and ask.  Hope this helps. They also have other sizes.

Bill

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« Reply #536 on: December 28, 2007, 08:03:41 PM »
@Jenna
  Something weird I experienced was the Dead short showing on the meter... So i guess as far as a flow diagram by having the cap and a diode after the diode/led may be forming a recursive loop not found in most circuits... *** Brings up the idea to put one led on either side of the cap.. mr amos may have mentioned this or hans i cant remember ... but I think that should light both led's and charge the cap if done right..?
  Like in one of my first  posts i was able to run a battery in series with the ground and light an led from one copper rod to the positive of the led and the battery's negative to the led neg or grnd,  but in between the copper rod was the earth and then a zinc screw attached to the plus of the battery.   It worked very inefficiently but did so it was an interesting exp.  May this exp will give you more ideas conceptually to try with this.
@All-  thanks again for all your hard work this project and all the research has been not only mind expanding yet humbling at the same time.
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« Reply #537 on: December 28, 2007, 09:32:54 PM »
http://www.globar.com/ec/maxcap-double-layer-capacitors.html


Above is a link to some really SUPER caps!  5.5 volt and 5.6 farads!!  Yes, 5.6F  It says they can keep RAM operating for WEEKS.  I think we need these.  Have not checked the price yet but will.  You electronics guys please let me know what you think about these.  Thanks.

Bill

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« Reply #538 on: December 28, 2007, 11:06:10 PM »
G'day everybody,

Just a quick one for now, seemingly off the topic (sorry Joe) but it does seem to be further substantiation of my theory about perpendicular fields and their ability to increase substantially the energy flow in a system.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=anandaadhar

This guy is using a small magnet that he uses to create perpendicular pulses in a magnet arrangement. This is not a fake. The principle is known (see Stephen Kundel's motor) but here is a dramatic demonstration of a possible increase in power. I think we are on the right track. A lot further to go yet though.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #539 on: December 28, 2007, 11:53:34 PM »
a couple of notes and i will post more later, as i am still catching up, when i referred to "charging the battery" i intended to hook the positive to your negative pole and the negative to positive earth at the same time, this however promotes electric current between the poles i think, but hey since we are experimenting wanna find out?

i googled farad and the definition is " farad is the amount of a columb of energy obtained by a cap from 1 volt current."

i have a 600 farad cap that is 200 wats from a tv... can you say fun? :D

so in short a farad is how effecient a cap is? im assuming?