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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1704231 times)

hansvonlieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #390 on: December 22, 2007, 11:04:33 PM »
What design? Can you post a sketch?

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« Reply #391 on: December 22, 2007, 11:14:17 PM »
 I will try but I seem to have a hard time posting pictures here. I could probably add it to my web site and post the link if you are really interested enough.

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« Reply #392 on: December 22, 2007, 11:33:31 PM »
just create your post as normal, then go to the bottom where it says Attach click on the Browse button and locate the picture on your computer, double click on the graphic you want to send and post. Simple as this. You can post more than one picture if you want.

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« Reply #393 on: December 22, 2007, 11:41:00 PM »
hansvonlieven, ok, thanks. Give me a few because I am slow at drawing using a computer.

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« Reply #394 on: December 23, 2007, 12:22:06 AM »
@ Hans:

I'm trying to catch up here today.  First, fantastic idea with the coal, easy to get, easy to try and cheap.  I wonder if anthracite or bituminous coal makes any difference?  And if it does not work, so what?  If it does work, then very very easy to make multiple "positive" electrode cells out of them.  I wish I had thought of it.  Second, that story and patent info on the "Absorber" seems to me to be right in line with all of this.  I will go back and reread it as I can't really grasp how it operates after the first reading.. A lot of info there.  I don't know where you find all this great stuff.  At first glance with the magnets and the zinc plates (in the simple version) it looks a bit similar to the device being experimented with in the pyramid topic.  Not the same, but maybe a distant cousin?

@ Jeanna:

Good job in testing the materials in "air".  I suspected no volts but, now we know for sure.  Always better to know. I still think the earth is a large capacitor but maybe, it is a motor of sorts too?  And a giant magnet?  All of the above?

@ Artic Knight:

Somewhere near the early part of this topic, one of the posts of an early patent (or a link to it) spoke of just that.  "Priming the pump".  It may have been mentioned on the Stubblefield stuff, I can't remember.  Pretty easy to try and I don't see it cutting down on anything.  It would either improve things, or stay the same I should think.  Well then again, it might short out or drain my car's battery....oops.  Because, in a way, it would be like hooking up both battery (car) terminals to "ground".  Of course one is a positive ground and one neg. but both might function as earth grounds to the car battery's operation.  Who knows?  Maybe I could try it with a nine volt radio battery first just to see?

I only have a few days left to get my outdoor Christmas lights (a few different colored leds) to run off my earth battery.  I don't know if I am gonna make it or not.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #395 on: December 23, 2007, 12:34:01 AM »
@ Hans:

I don't know where you find all this great stuff. 

It's called diligent research  :D

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« Reply #396 on: December 23, 2007, 01:02:17 AM »
@ nightlife:

I have been thinking about a way to convey this to you in a nice manner as I always attempt to get along with people on this forum, and I am not into flame wars.  You have this all encompassing theory, I am well aware of it as I am sure most are as you started I don't know how many topics dealing with it.  It is so all encompassing that, no matter what anyone comes up with that works it "fits" your theory.  That's all fine.  A theory of everything is great but only as far as a theory can go.  I think I speak for most of us here in saying that we all have what we think is a pretty good understanding of the way things work.  Do we know everything?  Of course not.  Could conventional science have missed something along the way through history that might help the world now?  I believe the answer is yes and I think that is why most of us are here.

I like some parts of your thinking but until you can post drawings of devices that work, or almost work, or pictures, or videos, I don't think you will get very far with it.  Just look at poor Lawrence on his thread.  Lawrence is "all theory" and he even says so himself.  I think most of us here are hands on types and if we saw you post something that held any promise at all, many people on this forum would dive in and help you to make it work, or prove that it does not, in which case you could try something else.

A great example is this topic here.  Joe posted some crazy stuff about sticking some rods into the ground to get free electricity.  I read it and was totally working along another line for over ten years.  I gave it a try, even though I kinda thought it was a waste of time.  But, and here is the difference I think, Joe not only told of this crazy idea, he told of how he went about testing it in a way that anyone could replicate, which I, and now others, have done.  If Joe just said, "I think you can get free electricity out of the earth," and kept repeating it here, and in other topics all over the forum, I don't think many would have paid him much attention.  I would not have.

So, please take this in the spirit in which it is intended.  Design some experiments based upon your theory...come up with a possible device....and post it.  Let others try to replicate it or help you with it.  There are a lot of very intelligent folks here that I have seen dive into others work to help push it along.  If you turn out to be wrong, better to know sooner than later so you can work on something else, right?  Maybe others have a different opinion but this is mine and I am responsible for the contents of this post. (Sounds like a political ad)  Best of luck on your projects.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #397 on: December 23, 2007, 01:15:32 AM »
It is raining again, :-[ ,  so no meter outside.

So, I collected all the electrodes from the shed and truly checked them out on the wooden table inside.
Cu & Graphite on the + side
Cu, Graphite, Mg, Zn and some steel on the - side

everything came up as zero.
well, no the Cu+ to Mg- showed 0.003v

jeanna


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« Reply #398 on: December 23, 2007, 03:54:11 AM »
G'day Gentlemen,

This is the bare bones "Absorber" patented by Roy J Meyers in 1913. Even though there are far more complex versions in the patent, Meyers is adamant that it works like this without the embellishments.

Probably quite a few of you will want to try this since it is a model of simplicity and cheap to make.

I have created another one of my priceless works of graphic art  :D to show you what is involved.

(http://keelytech.com/overunity/myersabsorber.jpg)

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« Reply #399 on: December 23, 2007, 04:05:26 AM »
@ Hans:

Great graphics!!!  The thing that jumps out at me right away is the north/south alignment  We have seen this before have we not?  I think he said in his patent wording...."Alignment with the geographical north" or something like that.  That's back to Stubblefield and the alignment with the north/south meridian. (as opposed to magnetic north/south)  Well if Jeanna can brave the cold, I have no cases scheduled for Sunday so, I may as well drift outside and play around a bit.  What did you use to produce the graphics Hans?  I attempt to use both ms paint and google sketch up but both seem to require drawing and the only way I have to do that is using my mouse which, will NOT follow where I want it to go most of the time.  I am printing out your circuit and it is on my list of experiments now.

Bill

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« Reply #400 on: December 23, 2007, 04:09:04 AM »
This one was done with MS paint. I find it is very good for basic graphics, when it gets beyond what it can do I use Paint Shop Pro.

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« Reply #401 on: December 23, 2007, 04:21:51 AM »
Pirate88179, thank you for keeping your words kind and I was only trying to get some of you to reason with common sense to help steer everyone in the right direction. Hans seems to have the concept for the most part and I was replying to a post he left here.

 Since you were so kind, I will do you all a favor that is working on this earth battery theory and that is to tell you all that you must use 2 sets post, 2 Zinc and 2 copper. The first sets copper will have to have one lead attached to the other sets zinc and the first sets zinc will have to have a lead attached to that to be the ground. The other sets copper post will be the positive.

            1st set of post
 copper (positive)   zinc (to second sets copper)

            2nd set of post
 copper (to first sets zinc)    zinc (negative)


 Not sure how much power it will create but the do sell kits to build these to run clocks using two flower pots as the power source and you can buy them at Hobby Lobby for about $20.00 

 As for my theory, I am again sorry to aggravate you all but as I said, you must rely on common sense when dealing with things that no one as ever seen. Most here want to think of a electron as a solid but yet wants to think it can go through brick walls. Then we have everyone here wanting to make electricity or some other form of energy but then they don?t want to start with the basics and find out what energy is. I started several threads to try and get you people to open your minds and let some common sense take over to help you all achieve your goals. Big money has painted the picture most of you have in your heads and I am just trying to get you all to understand that you cant always believe what you read or even what you have been taught because believe it or not, big money controls what you can be taught as well as most of what you read.

 Just think about that and I will from now on post drawings of my ideas now that Hans has explained to me how I can post them. I just started a Youtube account so the I can do some experiments and video record them and post them for all to see. I again am not here to piss anyone off but at the same time I am not here to waste my time with ignorance. When I first started I explained to you all that I am a mechanical problem solver by trade. I solve problems that people with years of schooling could not. I achieve my goals by using common sense. I know this is a far cry from what I am used to but I am getting to know what is going on and what is needed to solve our problems with this particular situation.

 Good day to you and I wish everyone happy holidays.

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« Reply #402 on: December 23, 2007, 04:34:36 AM »
G'day nightlife,

You are talking here about a simple galvanic cell which is what they use in flowerpots. This is NOT what we are talking about here though. We appear to be dealing with a totally different phenomenon here though there will always be some sort of galvanic action as a component.

Galvanic action is independent of alignment. What we are doing apparently is not. That should be enough to raise eyebrows, alas not many seem to grasp the significance of this.

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« Reply #403 on: December 23, 2007, 07:14:38 AM »
tell you all that you must use 2 sets post, 2 Zinc and 2 copper. The first sets copper will have to have one lead attached to the other sets zinc and the first sets zinc will have to have a lead attached to that to be the ground. The other sets copper post will be the positive.

            1st set of post
 copper (positive)   zinc (to second sets copper)

            2nd set of post
 copper (to first sets zinc)    zinc (negative)


 Not sure how much power it will create

Nitelife,

We had a link a couple of weeks ago to theverylastpageoftheinternet.com (Don Adsitt's site) where an extensive array is proposed to produce 120 volts by doing something like your suggestion using 120 copper tubes arranged 12across x 10deep. each copper tube had a zinc nail inside it with earth inside the copper tube, all buried in the earth with a few other details.

I just put a couple of pieces together which I hope will hold up long enough to try this outside the next time the rain stops. I will only be using 2 or maybe 3 sets of copper pipe with zinc inside wired in series like this. I expect to see about 3 volts if it works.
The last time I did this I got zero volts from the combination where I had had around 1 volt from a single cell. I wanted to check it out again being more careful this time and following those details more carefully.

we'll see I bought the torch but I have never soldered using a torch before. It should be easy enough, but we'll see. I will of course report any results here.
Stay tuned.
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« Reply #404 on: December 23, 2007, 08:35:15 PM »
jeanna, I cant wait to hear about your results. I personally will be testing a few things after the holidays. Good luck to you and all and I do hope everyone has a fun filled holiday season.