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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1097973 times)

Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2007, 05:21:36 PM »
Update, Initial tests.

But first things first.
I?ve arranged with the Utilities Protection Services to come out to the property,  identify and locate (spray and flag) any underground cables and their location. They also do the gas, sewer and water lines.

They?ve located the power cables, the telephone, and TV cable.
May I suggest at this point to anyone who?s delving into digging or driving any conductors in their yard to do the same as a safety precaution. The cables are not very deep. From a couple of feet for power cables to few inches for TV and telephone.
Ok back to the test parameters

Tested first for galvanic effect if any.
Used 2 Zinc Hot Dipped Nails 12? long 3/8? Dia ( 30cm L x 1 cm Dia) ~ 65 cents cost
Driven into the ground to a depth of 10 Inches (25 cm) 
Aligned North and South
Distance apart 23 feet (7 m)
Safe distance from any underground cables/pipes etc over 75ft ( 22.5 m)
There are no transformers in this street, the closest drop per the utility ppl is over half a mile away. (.8 km)

Readings
No resistor
Voltage 57 mV DC
Current 0.051 mA
Also shorted the gap and immediately tested again, the same readings shown
Flipped the multimeter test leads and both V and A were reading negative (-) same values. (assured multimeter was not pumping the setup etc)

Across 10.1 Ohm resistor
Voltage 2 mV DC
Current 0.005 mA

Across  1024 Ohm resistor  (~1KOhm)
Voltage 28mV DC
0.045 mA

No VAC was detected.

Next  planning on using metal conduit pipe ?? OD (1.23cm)
Got a 10 foot (3 m)  length cut in half so I can get over a meter into the ground, but it started raining (getting close to freezing point too) so will have to wait and when more time is available. Interested to see the effect if any of more ground contact area. Apparently distance is not much of a factor, if anyhting it seems to help. But only limited testing so far...

Some other combinations may include, metal conduit and copper pipe (both ?? Dia) and
orienting the conductors East-West to see if there is any effects. Also looking into Al pipe.
Again this does not appear to be pure galvanic effect or it should be reading zeros.
Maybe we need to do this, way out in the woods as another member also suggested.

Thanks

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2007, 05:21:36 PM »

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #76 on: November 11, 2007, 11:27:53 PM »
G'day all,

Have a look at this article. Could this mechanism offer part of the explanation for the phenomenon?

http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=1363&q=&page=all

Hope this helps in your research.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2007, 01:36:17 AM »
Hans:

Excellent article.  We appreciate your input.  I guess it is possible that these microbes are in the ground soil and generating electricity.  Since, from what I have read, no one knows exactly where this power comes from, then that means that no one can say where it isn't coming from.

@mikestocks:

Very good recomendation on the burried cable location service.  It wouldn't do to drive a conducting rod into a powerline.  Possibly free energy for a while if one lived through it, but not a good idea.  I obtained similar results with two copper pipes, which should eliminate the galvanic angle.  I am still going to use carbon and either zinc or magnesium to see what happens.  My best results are in polar alignement N/S not magnetic N/S.

@Stefan:

The mesh sheets you speak of would have a ton of surface area for their size.  I had a similar thought when looking through the metals department in a hardware store.  I was checking out the expanded metal sheets (with the diamond shaped hole patterns) and I asked what material they were made of and I was told "metal".  Wow, that really narrows it down.  Stainless should work I would think.  I am not sure if you burry it paralell to the n/s meridian or across it?  I guess 90 degrees to it would allow for more interception of the currents.  A lot of experimentation here.  I bought some alligator clips to make some longer jumper wires and a few leds as well. (Radio shack)

Bill


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2007, 03:08:32 AM »
Guys, I just came across this topic. Sorry to bust this topic but it is not new.  My cousin in Poland has a neighbor who is selling electricity to the grid using this principle for about 10 years.  The only thing is that he sticks his electrodes into big pile of city waste.  Everyone is saying that he make electricity from garbage.  When asked how it works, he doesn't really wants to talk about it.  Hartiberlin, the funny thing is that he learned it, from someone in Germany.   Obviously someone in your country knows this for years! 
George


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« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2007, 04:00:50 AM »
@George:

First, welcome to this topic.

Second, no one claimed that this is "new" as evidenced by the patents listed in the early posts dating from the 1800's.  That is interesting information about your cousin in Poland.  If he is selling them why does his company not come up anywhere in a search for earth batteries?  Possibly he is not on the internet.  Also, you said he is using waste areas which might be related to Hans's recent post here.

Can we get more information on your cousin?  Things like, what is he selling? Kits? How much? How much power is he able to obtain?  Any of this would be very helpful I think.  I am glad he is working on this idea.

If you cousin can speak/write English, or if you can translate for him...and he has access to the internet, why not invite him to this forum and topic?  I know you said he won't give any secrets away, and that's fine.  I would just be interested in whatever he might feel like telling us.  Thanks.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2007, 04:00:50 AM »
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2007, 04:37:17 AM »
Bill,
Just to clarify,
Not my cousin - his neighbor does it.
He is just producing pure AC which he sells to the grid.
He does not sell any kit, or work on it.
How much power he can produce?  According to my cousin,  his neighbor doesn't work anywhere else.  He is just living selling power to the grid. 
I will attempt to get more info from my cousin about this technology.  However I tried to do this 2 years ago without much of a success.  I did some research on the internet and actually found nothing at all either.  According to my cousin this technology is used in Germany where his neighbor learned about it. 
George

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« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2007, 05:02:31 AM »
George:

Thanks.  Yes please see what you can find out.  Maybe we should have Stefan look around in his country to find out about this technology. So, I see, he just sells the power to the grid for money. (Boy, I would love to do that) Sorry I was confused that it was your cousin.  Sometimes I read these posts too fast.  Please keep us posted.

@ Stefan:

Have you heard of anyone in Germany doing this?  Of course, the people that are doing it are most likely going to keep quiet about it like George's cousin's neighbor.  Maybe you could make a few inquiries?

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2007, 05:15:50 AM »
Bill, I just sent email to Poland.  Let's see what is going on now. 
My original intention posting here was to "redirect" experiments into biological waste.  Myself cannot do it as I live in tight neighborhood, and making my own biological waste cell is out of questions because of the smell.   Someone who lives in more open areas could try to dump garbage into the drum or hole in the ground for some time and then try to measure voltage.
George

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2007, 06:45:20 AM »
G'day George and all,

Please read the article I have posted above. What your Polish mate does seems to be the same thing. They have been experimenting with breeding these microbes in garbage and extracting electricity from it, albeit in smallish quantities. Perhaps the fellow in Poland found an efficient way of doing this.

Hans von Lieven

EDIT:   here is another link:  http://www.bu.edu/research/spotlight/2007/biology/microbes/index.shtml

They are talking about 100 watt per cubic meter and are aiming to achieve 10 times that.
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2007, 11:26:33 AM »
forward the video to about 20 minutes and see...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4591847614090637731&q=soil+battery&total=11&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5


edit - sorry i though it was some kind of soil battery but it turned out to be some kind of vinegar type battery.
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« Reply #85 on: November 12, 2007, 12:22:32 PM »
also see http://ops.dot.gov/regs/small_ng/Chapter3.htm

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2007, 06:20:21 PM »
Thanks for the new input folks , ive almost got the chart structure done and i can finally go out and test a few more things today updates in a few hrs. I did measure the freq and duty cycle with my meter today forgot about the little hz symbol, anyways it said 60 hz fluctuating to 59 and back and a 45.4 % duty cycle. now when i moved the electrodes a little closer it changed to about 40 hz and other sporadic readings but im positive im not hitting anything except dirt and tree roots and theres no power lines above me so just an update.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2007, 09:30:31 PM by Localjoe »


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« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2007, 11:36:35 PM »
@ Localjoe:

That's interesting.  The information on the telluric currents on google said the freq. of the earth should be 1 to 5 Hz, very low frequency.  Your result is dangerously close to the 60 cycle current supplied by the power companies, which, if you meter it, fluctuates as well within certain limits. What did you measure the freq. with?  My meter won't do that, I thought it took an oscilloscope but, I am very far from knowledgeable in this area.  Good luck with your explorations.  I am still in a holding pattern waiting my carbon rod delivery.


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« Reply #88 on: November 12, 2007, 11:47:12 PM »
Its the digital one from radio shack that is a step down from the one with a pc interface it says hz right next to contunity and it has duty cycle as a secondary function.  the freq changed with depth but didn't stay constant at the 60 when i changed the depths very interesting.   The 60 hz didnt show up unless i put the electrodes n to south well i still cant find my compass so i looked at a top down map and made a best guess.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2007, 02:28:14 AM »
Guys, 
Got reply from Poland.  Sorry for disinformation.  The guy is not using electrodes but pipes to recover methane gas to power converted diesel engine with generator.   Well, next time I will check facts first, before I open my mouth. 
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