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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1120770 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2007, 08:35:44 PM »
Welcome Chad:

Read the post with the link on Telluric Currents.  This gives some possible explanations of the origins of these currents although, like a lot of things, I don't think anyone really knows for sure.  What I like about experimenting in this area is that it won't take much money or equipment to be getting cutting edge results.  I have read everything on line that I could find on this subject and there is not all that much out there.  Keep us posted on your results.  I'm off to buy some graphite welding rods.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2007, 09:32:34 PM »
Thanks Chad and welcome,
                                       Right now i think we've all come to the conclusion thus far that this is a combination of a galvanic redox reaction and some kind of tap for what we could call magnetic current or tell auric current.  Since were all trying different electrodes now please keep posting your results and I will compile a table spreadsheet thing of our findings . I'll  make 2 columns, one for each electrode and have rows as such. Material or Metal Composition of the electrode, dimensions length and diameter if possible,  how far they were inserted in the earth, distance from one another, and results on voltage and current differentiation via depth of electrodes. Thanks folks, hopefully we'll have some free lighting for everyone soon.

My latest results

4 foot copper pipe 1/2 inch in diam i used coarse sand paper to make about 3 foot of it nice and dull and scratched up
i found a small piece of grounding rod ,zinc i had for a coil winding jig and used it about 2 feet quarter inch in diameter

I put the grounding rod in the earth about foot and half or less and copper pipe in about 2 feet. I'm reading 1.2 volts and 1.3 millamps on my meter now ;D ;D. Big improvement from my 300 micro amps with the small pieces i used earlier.  I neglected this time to align these with a compass and they were approx 2 or 3 foot apart so around a meter.  It started hailing out of nowhere and  then lightning.. blue sky all around it too weird i took off running for the deck after I saw the first flash above my head thinking hmmm not a good idea to hold these pieces of metal near this tree during a storm. Hopefully it will clear up soon so i can go back out.
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2007, 01:23:30 AM »
A couple of years ago I messed around with this a tiny bit just using a couple of nails in the ground and got some voltages.  Similar to what you folks are seeing.  I'm in the desert so the ground being wet really isnt part of the equation at least for my situation. 

At the time what I thought I might be picking up was the feedback loop from the electrical companies.  As I understand it they supposedly use the earth to complete the electrical circuit back to their generation stations.  I dont know if this is more theory or fact but I wondered if what I was seeing was the energy flowing in the earth back towards the substation.

If that were true I figured I could test the theory out by going way out into the middle of no where away from any electricity and see if I got the same results.  But I never got around to testing that part out.

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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2007, 08:40:24 AM »
@Localjoe:

Great job!  Big improvement in a short time.  This is what interests me.  Thanks for volunteering to do the spreadsheet, I think this will quickly allow us to compile information to guide us in the right direction.  I went out today looking for graphite welding rods.  Two places did not carry them but there are many more here to check.  I was on a surveillance until 11:00 p.m. CDT so I didn't get a chance to look further.  Right now, I am all over the place in my attempts but soon, I will settle down to a more scientific approach with depth, distance between electrodes, compass headings, materials, etc.

@Arioch:

Welcome. I don't disagree with your idea.  When I think of all of the electrons that are "pumped" in to the ground every day from all of the electrical circuits, it might have something to do with this.  Also, lightning strikes as well.  The cool thing is...right now, I don't think anyone knows!  We could be as right, or wrong, as a any scientist in the world.  I want to max out readings with the rods and then move on to plates for more surface area and then, maybe coil arrangements like Localjoe was discussing.

One more thought...Localjoe, you said during your experiments a thunder storm came up out of nowhere?  The same thing happened to me on Sunday.  I joked with a friend of mine saying that I must have disturbed the balance of the earth's charge and he laughed.  It did not rain, just huge lightning strikes and thunder for about 40 minutes.  Coincidence?????  I pulled my rods out just to be safe!  Chaos theory: we stick rods in the ground here, and somewhere in China a fuse blows.

Bill


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2007, 09:57:45 AM »

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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2007, 11:56:12 AM »
Thanks for the warm welcom bill.

Ok did a few tests last night with the following, copper, graphite, carbon, zinc plated screws, steel, brass, i found for me the best combination were "graphite" and "zinc plated screws", the next best were the copper and the zinc plated screws but the graphite seemed a little better in place of the copper.

I also found that the soil doesnt need to be in contact with the earth, i took some soil and isolated it from the ground by putting it in a small container and placing it on the side board in my workshop, the size of the container is 60mm OD X 60mm Height,  the voltage was i got was aprox 0.8 VDC. with the graphite and zinc screw about 50mm apart the same distance i used in the garden for the purposes of this test.

Then i toyed with the idea of tryng different earth materials other than soil, well my first test was plain old builders sand (red sand) i did the same proccess of isolating a small sample from the rest and again i got a voltage of around 0.8VDC.

well then i wanted to see if i could gain more by linking a number of small cells together...well it worked, i linked 7 cells together in series and got a initial voltage of 5.60VDC, the voltage dropped at a steady rate until it reached 4.60vdc then it seemed to stabilise.

I wanted to test the cells under load to see how they lasted, well all i have is 6v led's so i hooked one up and the voltage dropped to 1.71vdc it gave a dull but visable glow, so i left this hooked up over night with the meter connected aswell and heres the final readings.


start of the test

starting voltage DC 4.60v
Starting voltage AC 8.4v
Starting voltage under load 1.71vdc
Starting MAh.......1717m        (digital meter)


Results 8 hours later

finnishing voltage DC 3.7dcv
finnishing voltage AC 6.3 vac
finnishing voltage underload 1.69vdc
finnishing MAh......1689m      (digital meter)

these tests were conducted using ordinary red builders sand!, im going to run more test now but im going to be making a few changes to see what the outcome will be.

not a bad start.

sorry about the post modifications i noticed some mistakes.

« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 01:03:59 PM by Chad »

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2007, 04:43:01 PM »
Ok thats real cool chad i wasen't able to get any discernible current  out of my pot setup with dirt but i will check it out again.  Bill, i agree fully and encourage folks testing these things with us to start with rod style electrodes as we are so we can get a good data sheet on it then move to, experimenting with plates, make a data sheet on that and further a few coil setups once we all have a better understanding on the data at that point.   I read a few of the tellauric patents last night and i still saw the electromagnet/inductor present strung between them and with a transformer so this must be some kinda pulsed dc or how else would the transformer work?

Chad last question your ampreage rating is that 1770 millaamps or microamps.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 11:52:17 PM by Localjoe »

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2007, 06:09:00 PM »

Starting MAh.......1717m        (digital meter)

finnishing MAh......1689m      (digital meter)



Hi Chad,
many thanks for these tests, but what do you mean by these numbers ?
Did you put your ampmeter on the milliAmps scale and measured the
shortout current the cells can give off ?

So does 1717m means 1.721 milliamps ?

So about 1.7 milliamps seems right, when the cell is not very wet
and as you have it in a seperate container, you just have a galvanic cell,
no telluric currents.

But the objective is here to get more power output via the telluric
currents.
I wonder, where they could be got the best way, in a forrest
near trees or near houses were the return wires from the electric power
companies might create them ?

I already tried many galvanic cells and saltwater cells
and only via telluric currents you could get a bigger power output.
so I wonder, how this other guy could get 1.8 amperes from his
pipes,that sounds really very  big as the galvanicoutput is mostly
only in the 10s of milliamps at the maimum, normally under 10 milliamps
(DC short circuit current), if you don?t use disruptive chemicals with it like
chlor bleaches or acids or something like this..

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2007, 06:23:22 PM »
Hi stefan, sorry about that what you say is right 1.7 milliamps, so it looks as though im describing microamps  :-[ , im pretty new to all this so il il keep plugging away and promise to get it right next time  :D

il be back  ;)

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2007, 09:02:42 PM »
1.7milliamps is pretty good.  I cut up an old graphite golfing shaft, into 3 pieces and got 3.5 milliamps, but low voltage around 1.9, which barely lit a led.  I'm sure I can get it to light brightly if I use more cells.  Graphite works a lot better than copper.  I think the more (+) material, the more amps, and the more (-) the more voltage, in proportion to one another.  My goal is to light my 3 watt luxeon led :).

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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2007, 03:53:17 AM »
@Chad:

Great results so far, keep it up! 

@Freezer:

Keep up your efforts also.  I went to 4 places today to try to buy a graphite welding rod but no one had any.  I have a golf club shaft that is some form of graphite, I might try to utilize that.

@Localjoe:

Man, you started a great topic here.  I hope it continues to take off and we can publish some great results!!!  I am again tomorrow seeking materials.

Bill

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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2007, 05:09:39 AM »
I'm sure I've seen more then 5 websites about this ground battery stuff. I didn't pay much attention until I see the plans on ebay. (don't have a link for that either :P)  I don't remember it 100% but there was one plan who dug a hole covered it with plastic, then made lasagna using layers of earth and big plates of copper and zinc. Go deep, make it cover a large area. I think they just put them in series and parallel.

If your rods have 1 A and 1 V then you need 1000 times as much surface for 1 kw
If it's only 10 mA * 1V you would need 10 000 times as much surface to make 100V * 10A

The surface of 1x1m plates is quite a bit bigger as that of a single rod. I wasn't really that interested as I thought it was probably some evil chemical reaction I wouldn't want to have in my garden. But if one can isolate the earth that changes everything. :)

Hummm didn't Don Adsitt have plans on his site?

leme search...

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/earthbattery/ebpage1.htm

(note to self: Adsitt with 2 times the t)


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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2007, 05:23:21 AM »
@ Gaby:

Thanks very much for the link.  This never came up in any of my internet searches.  I have not read all of it yet, but I will.  This goes with Stefan's premise that the more surface area you have, the more amps you can produce.  It is consistant with the patents we have read.  Thanks again.

PS  Have you tried any of this yet?  If so, what were your findings?

BIll

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« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2007, 08:24:13 AM »
BTW, you can make your own conductive graphite powder from burning coal pellets.
Have a search in the battery section.

My girlfriend gave me the tip to try this.. :)
Then you could also use this conductive graphite powder to make graphite "paper" which has a huge surface and so you could make your own huge surface graphite paper plates.
Surely you need then to make sure the soil is not too wet, so the paper does not dissolve...I am at my PDA at the moment, so I am posting the links later...
But they are all here in the "battery" section.

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« Reply #59 on: November 08, 2007, 08:36:48 AM »
P.S. Is there any chemical glue , that is not water dissolveable and will still conduct okay, when graphite powder is mixed into it ?
This would be needed to get longer lasting conductive graphite paper plates. Maybe graphite could be mixed with some 2 component glue and this will still be enough conductive ?

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